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do all those esoteric graphics they use actually mean something? Or is it just decorative

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/asp/? /biz/? /co/? /diy/? /mlp/? /sp/? /trv/? /vp/?

Post summary

>>15337515
/biz/: How would a post-instrumentality economy work?

>>15337515
/asp/- discuss rankings of eva waifus in anime popularity lists

/biz/- discuss sales of eva merchandise

/co/- debate legitimacy of oriental art styles vs. western canon

/diy/- make your own asuka statue

/mlp/- eva themed ponies

/sp/- eva themed jerseys for FC Bayern

/trv/- pilgrimages to japan

/vp/- its japanese same thing

>>15337515
I can see eva appearing on those boards.
>>15337510
Mostly aesthetic. Still very nice to see.

I've come to realize that Americans, who have no sense of tact, subtlety, for whom everything has to be made big and obvious, for whom the most valuable personality traits are confidence and assertiveness, inevitably come to prefer Asuka, with her loud shenanigans, foolhardy confidence, and a small mind which they can relate to, simply because they do not possess the ability to understand Rei.
Europeans, on the other hand, and to some extent the Japanese have the ability to look past the surface. Loud speaking, assertive poses, put on vigor will not affect their opinion as much as that of americans. As they are cultured people, they view such personality traits as more obnoxious than attractive. What matters to them is your insights, your resilience, your ability to make good judgements when they matter. They quickly come to see through Asuka and all her vanity, and regard Rei as a deeply complex and an interesting character.
This trend is most clearly illustrated in the type of film the two different types of people produce. Whenever an american mentions European cinema, you know it will likely be a subtle, thought-provoking film, not afraid to take its time and aimed not just to entertain the viewer, as it's not a circus, but to leave a lasting impact on him, ideally teaching him something about himself and others. Tarkovsky, Fellini, Bergman, Truffaut, Antonioni, Almodovar, Haneke are among the most successful movie directors in Europe, and all of their films share these qualities.
As for american movies, it suffices to look at their biggest box office hits. They are star wars, marvel movies, fast and furious (movies about tough guys driving cars fast).
The inevitable conclusion that one comes to see is that Rei is, indeed, best girl and only uncultured swine will say otherwise.

>>15337579
Nice wrong opinion, bitchass faggot. Asuka a best.

>>15337595
Asuka a low IQ soulless whore.

>>15337476
Evangelion sucks.

>>15337598
t. Reifag who thinks soulless dolls would make good partners, instead of an introspective and troubled, but cute and fun girl like Asuka. I guess personality in a woman just scares you.

>>15337476
rei a shit

>>15337579
>Misato

>>15337621
>Asuka
>introspective
You haven't actually watched the show, have you? She's a vapid superficial whore.

>>15337579

I wish I had someone to rewatch Evangelion with, bros.

>>15337855
My best friend would rather watch 'recommended' netflix shows :(

>>15337579
>implying Haneke is good

Pretentious jap garbage rife with vacuous symbolism.

The only pretentious one here is you

>>15337870
I change my opinion since I wrote that text. Haneke is a sad, bitter old man with barely anything interesting to say.

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all the 3DPD porn boards

>>15337855
I just watched it with muh gf

>>15337948
post gf

>>15337886
lol filtered

>>15337855
I feel like it's meant to be watched alone.

>>15337476
Sure, every board CAN. What kind of dumb hypothesis is that? You could instead hypothesize that, if prompted, every board WILL discuss Eva. That, at least, is testable and not objectively stupid.

The stages the Self in Fichte's "The Vocation of Man" goes through what the Viewer of NGE should be going through when watching the series.
1. Doubt 2.Knowledge then 3. Faith with Faith having the conclusion that one must act so one ought to act and that it is in this acting that the vocation of man lies; acting between people is the ultimate act a person can do.
Similar as in how completely nullifying the "AT Fields" between people would be inferior it is necessary for us to first have to perform these acts of getting together with people to learn, love, hate, etc. Even if things could be different you wouldn't want it anyother way. This realization first enables one to really "live" and to imbibe life in all its complexities.

>>15338000
Even better: every board can discuss Evangelion without a janny deleting the thread

>>15337579
Yes

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>>15337579
God tier post

As much fun as it is, bickering over your meaningless choice of waifu for 25 years straight, could we actually talk about Evangelion? There's a lot of Jungian influence, isn't there?

>>15338375
ok reitard

>>15337855
you need to talk to people for that

>>15338384
I love them both desu

>>15338524
You would fuck your mom

>>15337579
I once was an asuka fag because I always saw rei as an emotionless pushover but the end of evangleion made me see the light of rei. even though she seems to be a robot its really asuka who is the robot when she lets her emotions control everything she does. that said asuka is objectively hotter and I ship shinji with her because rei is his dead mom or something which is incest

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>>15337579
This is a fucking copypasta and I can't believe nobody called you out for it yet

>>15339316
it isn't copypasta if he's right

>>15337579
Nost waifufags like Rei cause she seems docile and dollishly cute. No waifufags for Eva deserve credit cause waifuing Eva girls is dumb.

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>>15338254
Hello my fellow Chads

>>15337476
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnihGeRjG3U
Mandatory video for every Eva thread

I refuse to watch Evangelion but I stan Misato

>>15339550
i ain't watching no youtube nigger. Someone give me a rundown.

>>15337579
The psychology of why we want one over the other is extremely interesting. I believe you made a great error when you said Americans love Asuka for her loud and obvious behavior. Someone who genuinely thought such a thing has never been in love. It is not the apparent that interests us men about a woman, it is the reversal of her character. That is, people don't like Asuka for her vulgarity, people like her because it interests them reversing her into exposing and revealing her sensitivities and subtleties, her ability to be quiet, to say nothing, her ability to not inflate, but deflate her ego to you, in front of you, for you, because of you. That is what interests us.
On the other hand, people are interested in the cold, quiet, and detached Rei not for this coldness, quietness, and detachedness, but for the private reversal of her public nature. That is, her loud, expressive, vulgar, impersonal side, an extreme closeness and dependancy on you, to you, and for you.
So the question here is, which reversal demonstrates the greatest, healthiest tastes? The cold Rei reversed into a hot character, or the hot Asuka reversed into a cold character?

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>>15339582
Why is she so perfect bros
I totally don't have a mommy fetish

>>15339595
It speaks the truth about Eva

>>15339595
The rundown is that some guy didn't like it

An exploration into the emotional coping mechanisms various types develop in face of the unifying "alien" force.

>>15339392
>most waifufags like Rei cause she seems docile
lol, this is asuka fags coping because they can't understand liking Rei because people who like Asuka aren't actually real.

>>15339776
Asuka > rei

>>15339697
Well I totally totally do!

>>15340355
That wouldn't be wrong, would it?

>>15337510
Yeah they actually mean stuff

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>>15337786
This lucky bastard is eating Misato anchovies and you basically lack the ability to consume raw fish

>Misato is best girl

>>15337476
Can someone PLEASE explain this meme/phenomenon? I tried to watch a few episodes and it's just a kid in a robot.

What's so special about this?

/lit/ likes Misato? Truly, /lit/ is the most intellectual board.

>>15341161
There’s a pretty dramatic tonal shift about half way through

>>15341161
That is the thing. It lures you in with that. It changes quite dramatically from the norm. It drifted far enough away from what was expected that the majority of modern anime has been influenced by it in some fashion.

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>>15341018
She's the only actual woman out of the stupid love triangle

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>>15341218
what is the thing? That it's like every other anime? kid's fantasy? I DON'T GET IT!
>>15341212
where?which episode?

>>15341358
Episode 15

>>15341358
If the opening episode didn't give you the impression that something was off, you're a literal brainlet. Also, watch shows till the end before you start complaining and then embarrasing yourself.

>>15337959
cope

>>15337574
kek'd at Bayern :)

>>15338384
Freudian influence

>>15341634
Jewish influence

Aren't you tired of spamming the board with off-topic shit? Eva is not fucking literature

>>15341403
>it gets better 200 pages into the 3rd book, bro, just keep reading.

Life is too short for shitty Japanese cartoons.

I haven't watched Evangelion. I don't typically watch anime (I might watch one short series in a given year), and haven't since I was quite young. I tried watching Evangelion last year but only got a few eps in before getting bored.
Is it actually worth watching? Should I give it another go, as someone who doesn't typically enjoy anime? I really just don't "get" the mecha stuff, it doesn't do anything for me.

>>15341907
The series and ending movie is one of the greatest creations in that medium, the Twin Peaks-esque deconstruction of its genres which lays bare our soul through Japanese folklore of the late 20th century. The ideas themselves aren't that fresh, but the way they're presented is appealing. There's also a very apparent and strong influence of Freud, Jung, Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer and techno-mysticism throughout.

>>15341956
This is similar to my situation
>never watched much anime, let alone mecha
>tried watching Eva in high school
>bored after about 5 episodes
>return to it after 5 years (still haven't watched any more anime than the last time)
>it's amazing

>>15341956
There's a strong shift in the middle of the series when it starts turning inwards. It's obvious because it starts getting darker and I think even the creator said he started getting interested in philosophy and psychology while becoming disenchanted with the whole anime otaku pop culture thing while production was taking place. The mecha stuff isn't the point in the end and you don't have to get it although a lot about the robot-things is metaphorical.

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>>15342024
He looks like a poo

Kaworu is the only and most patrician choice, degenerates

>>15340355
over a decade ago when this tuned on adult swim I would record anime on a 3 hr vhs tape, would rewatch the intro to see her tits over and over hnng, along with shows like inuyasha for the bath scenes, again hnng. i had a mormon mom and 3 dads.

>>15339190
Alien hybrid clones literally don't count as incest, faggot.

>>15341969
>Kierkegaard

I see how all the other thinkers you mentioned are relevant. But I'm curious why you included Kierkegaard.

>>15337510
eva is the best thing you will find appealing to raw emotion, all allusions there serve an emotional theme but have no real analytical meaning

>>15342471
Like all good art.

>>15342452
Excerpts from Kierkegaard's work "The Sickness Unto Death", also the name of the 16th episode of the original Eva series:

SHINJI
>(1) In despair at not willing to be onself, the despair of weakness
>This form of despair is: in despair at not willing to be oneself; or still lower, in despair at not willing to be a self; or lowest of all in despair at willing to be another than himself...
>For [he] does not recognize his self, he recognizes himself only by his dress... he recognizes that he has a self only by externals. There is no more ludicrous a confusion, for a self is just infinitely different from externals...
>For as no human body is perfection, so neither is any self. This difficulty, be it what it may, frightens the man away shudderingly. Or something happens to him which causes within him a breach with immediacy deeper than he has made by reflection. Or his imagination discovers a possibility which, if it were to come to pass, would likewise become a breach with immediacy. So he despairs. His despair is that of weakness, a passive suffering of the self, in contrast to the despair of self-assertion...
>For all that, this despair is to be referred to the formula: in despair at not willing to be oneself. Just as a father disinherits a son, so the self is not willing to recognize itself after it has been so weak. In despair it cannot forget this weakness, it hates itself in a way, it will not humble itself in faith under its weakness in order to gain itself again...

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ASUKA
>(2) The despair of willing despairingly in oneself - defiance
>The self despairingly wills to dispose of itself or to create itself, to make itself the self it wills to be, distinguishing in the concrete self what it will and what it will not accept... He wills first to undertake to refashion the whole thing, in order to get out of it in this way a self such as he wants to have, produced by the aid of the infinite form of the negative self - and it is thus he wills to be himself. That is to say, he is not willing to begin with the beginning, but with "in the beginning." He is not willing to attire himself in himself, nor to see his task in the self given him; by the aid of being the infinite form he wills to construct it himself.
>So the despairing self is constantly building nothing but castles in the air, it fights only in the air. All these experimented virtues make a brilliant showing; for an instant they are enchanting, like an oriental poem: such self-control, such firmness, such ataraxia, etc., border almost on the fabulous. Yes, they do, to be sure; and also at the bottom of it all there is nothing. >The self wants to enjoy the entire satisfaction of making itself into itself, or developing itself, of being itself; it wants to have the honor of this poetical, this masterly plan according to which it has understood itself. And yet in the last resort it is a riddle how it understands itself; just at the instant when it seems to be nearest to having the fabric finished, it can arbitrarily resolve the whole thing into nothing.

Shinji and Asuka are both in a state of existential despair. Shinji is in the form of despair at not willing to be himself, and Asuka in despair at willing to be herself. I think this lends a lot of meaning to the conclusion of End of Evangelion. Shinji finally understands the importance of being a Self apart from the external and so makes the conscious decision to return to individuality and end instrumentality. Asuka, the defiant one, finally shows a sign of humility and understanding as she strokes Shinji's cheek, and is now on the path to becoming a true Self.

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>>15339595

Basically, yeah. It's a long convoluted video about him saying that he thought it was boring and no amount of anything can redeem it if it's boring. He mentions several times that he understands his opinion isn't objective and that disagreeing with him is fine.

That anon didn't watch his own post.

http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2012/01/19/gravitys-evangelion/

>>15342273
Kaworu a cute

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>>15342981
Beautifully done anon

>>15337579

How do you think she comes?

>>15343822
>:|

>>15340894
Naahhh it's not that weird. Women are just at their peak of sexiness in their mid-30's while also actually being fun to talk to.
Well, they are if they take care of themselves anyway, which isn't too common these days in the west regrettably, definitely true for foreign women though.

>>15337574

/lit/ - How do you think she comes?

>>15337476
I started watching this a few days ago because 4chan memed me into it
>depressed teenage boy who gets bullied at school and is a social outcast is actually the "chosen one" meant to save the world
>moves in to a deep state facility with a super sexy cool relatable young girl who dresses immodestly and cares so much about him
>multiple shots of her ass and feet and tits to get all the teenage viewers dreaming about her
>ribald scene where she sees his penis
>upon finding out that he is the chosen one, all the bullies at school apologise and make friends with him
>all the girls fawn over him
>he is now the cool guy at school with a sexy roommate but he still has some unresolved issues
Lmao what the fuck? This is just mindless wish fulfilment for teenage boys like most animes and YA entertainment. There is nothing here that characterises the great art and literature people have compared this anime to. Even worse, it banks on the egotistical part in us all that wants to think we are 'special' somehow, that we are above everyone else and that our life has some lofty purpose which has yet to be realised. This egotism is especially prevalent among 'nerdy' teenagers who feel socially ostracised, which is the whole reason this 'teenage kid who is le chosen one' genre even exists (Naruto, Harry Potter, The Hunger Games, etc.).

I'm going to continue watching in the hopes that it surprises me and gets better but my impression so far hasn't been positive.
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>>15345067
it's only popular because of horny teens

>>15345067
It's duping you, keep watching.

>>15345067
low level bait

>>15345216
Fuck off you mindless cretin.
>>15345188
Yeah, I figured there must be a twist somewhere further on. No way it can be this mindless and still be considered great.

Anyone have that image of recommended /lit/ manga and anime?

>>15345240
The subtext is there in the early eps. anyway. The tone's very psychical and foreboding, more than the usual show I think.

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>>15345338
Shit I have marked the ones I've alredy seen lol
didn't realize sorry

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>>15345345
Thank you, friend

>>15337476
Should I watch this? Is it worth it? The only anime I've seen is Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood or something like that and I really enjoyed it. I see Evangelion is available on Netflix so TELL ME RIGHT NOW SHOULD I WATCH THIS OR NOT FUCK

>>15345380
yeah but don't watch the netflix or other dubbed shit.

>>15345389
But i don't wanna hear chink talk dude

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>>15337786
Maya > Rei > Misato > Class rep > Ramiel > Kaworu > Asuka > Yui

>>15345538
quite based if I may say so

>>15345338
Monster fucking SUCKS. One of the worst shows of all time.

>>15345438
The whole point of anime is the foreignness allows us to abstract it to a degree we can enjoy things we otherwise wouldn't, hence broadening our perspective. Watching in english makes it cringe.

>>15345569
I don't understand the loud hate-boner over Monster. There's tons of shitty juvenile psycho-crime shit in anime (death note a good example). Monster pulls it off pretty tastefully, with a lot of added existential depth too.