/lit/ - Literature

It’s Portugal money or something. The person making them probably earned like $2 a day

back then you could buy a pallet of smokes for a nickle

>>15311964
most people that claim to smoke even 40 cigarettes a day, aren't smoking every single one to the filter

If he smoked "80 per day", total cigarettes smoked, adding the partial and half cigarettes, is closer to 30-40

>>15311964
because he only imagined smoking them

>>15311964
in his time the taxes on cigarettes were not that high
fucking kikes ruing everything

He had a decent job, never travelled, had no women, he rolled his own cigarettes, tobacco was cheaper back then... He only spent money on tobacco, books/paintings, food, and alcohol.

>Its estimated that Nietzsche ate eight to twelve apples a day

>>15312028
Have you SEEN German apples? They're maybe a quarter the size of normal people apples. And the worst part is when you try to confront a German about this, they get all defensive and start trying to say how their apples are perfectly normal, perfectly fine

>>15312028
it's true and it's also the reason why went insane and died

>>15311964
>How the fuck could he even afford to smoke 400+ cigarettes each week?
Tobacco is only expensive because of taxes.

Well, in actuality every single cigarette he smoked counted as multiple cigarettes, to account for his heteronyms.

A twenty pack of cigarettes here is around £6-8. Even less if you roll them yourself. I don’t think the price is unfeasible.

>>15311964
Look how much well-dressed the people behind him are.

Fashion has truly degenerated. You may like Pollock and Andy Warhol. You may even like Le Corbusier. But there is not excuse whatsoever for contemporary fashion. People dress like dirt. (I am referring to average people, not to dandies, which still exist.)

>>15311964
I go through 100mls of 0.3% ejuice. Am I gonna be the next Pessoa bros?

>>15312098
Which country?

I'm in the UK and a pack of 20 costs me £12.50 each, sometimes more. Smoking 5-8 of these a day already feels like too much.

>>15312120
Smoke rolls lad. I pay about £14 a week for one 30g pouch. They don't make you feel anywhere near as shit either.

The price of tobacco today is pretty significantly inflated due to taxes.

>>15312140
How many cigarettes do you get out of that?

I will certainly consider this.

>>15311978
I used to smoke around 20 a day, going up to 40+ in a bad day, usually to the filter.
Is that really unusual?

>>15312174
Not sure exactly but I smoke 10-20+ a day and lasts up to 5-7~ days. I use extra slim filters so they're usually thin. Amberleaf tastes the best imo.

>>15312041
3 inches is average

>>15312120

I'm australian and a pack costs no less than 43$ now if u want smth good like a marlboro red :(

>>15312659
ausfag here, get a pipe. Cheaper, tastier, healthier

>>15312000
So he was on datura?

>>15312659
>he doesn't know what spliffs are
OHNONONONONO

>>15312106
In their back of their mind everyone knows this when looking at portraits of episode or videos from the turn of the 19th century. There’s just absolutely nothing that can be done about it, and the most degenerate decade, the 60’s, was the death knell for proper shirts and jackets. For me personally it’s the 30’s where real life looked like film noir

>>15312680
Disgusting.

>>15311964
European cigarettes are often tinier (see pic related). And tobacco was cheap back then.
>>15312680
Kill yourself, weedfag degenerate. You have to go back.

>>15312717
>sobriety is the only route to enlightenment

>>15312731
>afraid of the irrational world that lives beneath the perfection of RATIONALITY

>>15312735
>enlightenment
Spook, even worse street shitter spook.
>sobriety
I said you're disgusting for smoking weed. I believe in moderate drunkenness. Weed isn't a literary drug, however. It's literally a nigger drug that's spread alongside with the negrification of our society. It's make you stupid, ineloquent and forgetful. Enjoy trying to write anything interesting on the drug. The only truly literary drugs are tobacco, alcohol (and only certain kinds), and opium (especially in tea form). Perhaps absinthe too a là Rimbaud, if you're a madman. If you're an adult smoking weed, you're either puer aeternus doing a teenager's drug or a spiritual nigger.

>>15312731
That’s a cigariorillo

>>15312760
Yeah, you don't even know what you're saying, mate. You're an idiot.

>>15311964
>400+ cigarettes each week?
There are different types of smokers, and even at this rate he could be lackadaisical about pulling on them in favor of the room note/taste intermittently, i.e. not primarily going for the nicotine

>>15312731
And this

>>15312776
Sounds as if your vocabulary and experience of spirituality is restricted to A*glo terms ; however I forgive you. When the Kali Yuga no longer has influence over your psyche, seek the eternal truth found in Platon (pbuh).

>>15312776
Fuck you you unknowing pseud. Weed opens portals in your mind that causes creativity to flourish. Are you really that ignorant to how much music and art was created while people were smoking. If you smoked before and it made you stupid, you probably smoked some weak shit or you just weren't used to the effects yet.

>>15312337

Get a load of this guy

>>15312809
>Sounds as if your vocabulary and experience of spirituality is restricted to A*glo terms
I speak five languages fluently. My vocabulary is most likely quadruple the size of yours, perhaps even larger. And Plato would've despised weed, though to be fair I don't think he would've cared much for tobacco either.
>>15312993
Weed might be good for making nigger music, no doubt. But the greatest music of all time was made before weed was even known to Europeans. And also, weed makes you ineloquent, it infantilizes your linguistic faculty. You can't write if you're addicted to weed, sorry. The exceptions are few and far between. Maybe one in a thousand people can smoke weed without immediately sounding like a brain dead nigger. Also I laughed when you said "weed opens portals in your mind"; maybe if your IQ is below 90 you'll feel like weed is somehow some magical experience. Anytime I've smoked it I felt it brought down the general level of my thought, my clarity of mind, etc.

If you really want interesting brain states I would recommend:
1. Engaging in intensive exercise daily.
2. Taking freezing cold showers (this will purge most of your base and unworthy thoughts).
3. Beginning a robust meditation routine.
4. Not taking nigger drugs like weed and crack that lower your IQ and turn you into an apathetic borderline faggot.

>>15313066

>>15311964
the new york times is an absolute rag

>>15312993
new copypasta

>>15313129
Copy this, nerd: Weed is a gateway drug to black cock for white women. Weed is a gateway drug to low T, faggotry and liberalism for white men. Weed is the most liberalizing factor today, and the least commonly acknowledged as such. Weed is literally niggerhood incarnate in a drug. "Muh weed, muh great and amazing nigger beats and raps, muh interracial porn!" - the motto of sissified white male whose T levels and IQ were ravished by the consumption of intelligence reducing, liberalizing, and niggerfying drugs. Hedonism for weak-willed faggots.

>>15312731
Smoked and smokepilled.

>>15313290
wow a talking rat posting on /lit/

we're rich!

>>15312112
>pessoya

>>15311964
>It is estimated that Voltaire drank 40 to 50 cups of coffee a day
How? Coffee gives me the shits, surely he was pissing out of his rear all the time?

>>15312041

Something something Asian penises

>>15312215
no, I go to a university where smoking is normal and 40 is above average but not shocking

>>15312671

I been thinking of it but honestly mate im too big on durries. its bc when im feening the most its when im on the go n i think a pipe doesnt rlly cut it especially if ur in the cbd or smth.

>>15312120
I was in the London last year and basically every brand I tried was £7-10

>>15312680

nah man i just wanna crunch durries as i go about my day at work n shit. Im not looking to get fucked up 24/7

>>15313335

what the actual fuck

>>15311964
Balzac drank over 50 cups of coffee a day and would often masturbate right up to the edge of orgasm, stop, and immediately begin writing. This is how he sometimes managed to finish entire novels in a single day.

>>15313335
I drink about 20 double shots of espresso a day, it's not that inconviable. Coffee doesn't give me the shits either. I always theorized that people affected by it are usually weaklings with high pain sensitivity, the kind that complain about the simplest things. "Ouch". "Waaah". In other words, cry babies and sois. Much like their brain can't handle pain, their GI track can't handle coffee. The common denominator in that equation is opioidergic signaling in the negative precipitating both scenarios. The oral MOR antagonist laxatives further prove my point.

>>15313455
The question is: how do you sleep? I love coffee, but I had to switch to green tea in an effort to improve my sleep.

>>15313468
Coffee doesn't even wake me up or cause a laxative effect.

>>15312068
This.
Nietzsche chewed all the apple seeds (which contain cyanide) and went insane.

>>15313468
I knew a dude that would drink coffee specifically right before going to bed, lmao. He was a freak of nature in general though, think the type of person that will get shot like 10 times and just walk it off lol

>>15313477
Why do you drink coffee then if it doesn't enhance your mental energy levels?
>>15313573
Fuck man, that would ruin me. Pretty cool though.

>>15313598
I drink it because I'm more creative on it and my sex drive is lower. Most effective with espresso, warm water extraction, and Turkish preparations.

>>15312017
what a dream

>>15311964
friendly reminder that "the book of disquiet" is for free on audible in Portuguese. Take your copy and read it together with peak comfy audio

>>15312017
Literally me.

>>15312680
Eww. Why would you mix tobacco with weed?

>>15313455
You realize that there is a variance in biological and genetic makeup that makes more succeptible to things than others. That's like getting angry at someone for being too tall or getting cancer or disliking a certain food or being lactose intolerant.

>>15313637
>That's like getting angry at someone for being too tall
Is this manlet cope I see?

the first cigarette of the day with a chemex-brewed coffee >>>>>>>>> sex

>>15313261
based

Apparently Houellebecq was at 4 packs a day.

>>15313905
Recently I always get so dizzy smoking the first cig of the day.

>"It was rumored that Herman Melville ate five entire carrots before every meal"

THIS ONE. This HAS GOT to be bullshit.

>>15312090
lol

>>15312735
>This spook is the spook to this other spook

>>15312098
>>15312120
wow, i had no idea cigarettes were so expensive now. i thought a pack of 20 was like £3-4.
i've never actually bought any, though. serves you stinking fuckers right.

>>15313414
Kinda hardcore.

>>15313414
That sounds horrible.

>>15313414
I will try to emulate him.

>It's another zoomer insect thread wondering about why normal life was allowed to go on before globohomo society came into full effect

>>15315685
It's not our fault tho

>>15311964
cigarettes were practically free up till recently and still cost pennies in many countries

>>15312041
That's because American apples are genetically modified to be bigger.

>>15313414
>often masturbate right up to the edge of orgasm, stop, and immediately begin writing.
He's pretty smart, he knows that if he actually coomed he wouldn't have energy to do any shit.

>>15313414
Guyotat used to masturbate while writing, it became so bad that at one point he just did nothing except masturbate and write, didn't even eat, he lost half his body weight and wrote himself into a coma.

>>15315901
Based

>>15311964
i used to pick cigarettes out of ashtrays and off the ground, maybe he did that

>>15313905
That's because it appeals to aesthetic bliss and meditative pleasure instead of DUUUUUDE COOOM. I was watching an Italian singer sing a christmas carole and he was in such a visible state of ecstasy and joy that you could see it on his face and enjoy it as a listener. Contrast this with sex. While you get a fun sensation and feel good feeling, it is rather cheap by comparison and you can't tell in the moment because that other part of your brain shuts off. Sometimes in the post nut clarity (I resent this term as you're really more clear after a good week of abstinence and all day not for a moment so it shouldn't be considered good or desirable any more than the post ringing of the plunging of a syringe), as I was saying, sometimes past the 'post nut clarity', when you've just watch porn and observe the actress and actor you see their faces. They do not look happy. They look hypnotize and at the level of animals. You mention simple pleasures to the carnal man much less say they are superior, he looks at you as if you are mad.

>>15312041
MAUL! Unsere Äpfel sind die besten.

I'm from Portugal and used to be a heavy smoker until 2years ago. Smocked a minimum of 1 pack since I was 18 until I was 36 (started at 16) and about 2 packs a day since I started making my own money, and smoking has only became expensive in the last decade or so because of taxes. I remember filling my lugs with tobacco because it was cheaper here than anywhere else is Europe.
To be fair we always had a somewhat big tobacco industry (for our country's size) so it has always cheap. Even nowadays Philip Morris makes most of their tobacco for Europe here iirc.
Anyway, 80 cigarettes is a lot, but not if your work/hobby allows you to smoke. When I went out with my friends and go to a football match I sometimes smoked 6 packs that day. Also it's not like you'll be smoking them until the filter when you're chain smoking, you'll smoke half of it at best.

>>15315948
> porn and masturbation is sex
Holy cow, we're approaching levels of incel previously unknown to man!

>>15315999
It's fairly similar. The only difference is having a woman you love beside you distracts from the reality of the situation and makes you unreceptive and uncaring to such analyses which usually results in post nut warmth and actual sleep. If you don't find them similar, it's probably you that's never copulated.

>>15315998
how the fuck are you still alive
i smoked from 16 to 22 and mybody rejects it, can't handle it anymore

>>15313317
kek

>>15316024
ppl are diferent, my dad smoked even more for 50 years until he quit this year and the doctor said his lungs are fucking fine
shits crazy

>>15313478
kek'd

>>15315685
>globohomo society
What exactly is globohomo society?

>>15311964
>>15312028
>>15313335
>>15313414
>>15314530

>>15315998
What's life life in Portugal these days?

>>15311964
I'm surprised to not see anyone mention that James Joyce was addicted to breast milk to the point that he could get no sleep if he didn't do shots of boob juice before bed.

>>15312041
lmao

>>15312715
>>15312106
*tips fedora*

>>15312120
That’s stupid. I don’t smoke, and I understand government tax on them, but still.

>>15313066
Absolutely based brother.

>>15312993
DUDE
WEED
LMAO

>>15313066
Teach me your ways, master. Stick your foot in my mouth, honestly.

>>15316283
Things I don't like.

>>15316326
Not nice, but not Africa tier I guess.

>>15316591
Lmao I'm getting my european citizenship just to move there what the fuck

>>15313066
Hallelujah Brother.

>>15316599
t. hue

>>15313261
Amen to that.

>>15316599
if you're from Brazil it's much much better. I actually used to go to Brazil a lot, have lots of family there and there's no comparison imo.
Portugal w crap by euro standards, but it's got its charm I guess. But it has a small sized economy that depends too much on tourism and construction so it really isn't easy to have a decent life sometimes, specially for a foreigner. There's a reason why a lot of our educated youngs got emigrated recently
On the other hand we really don't care if you're a nigger or a faggot if you don't bother anyone.

>>15316712
Can I go to live there if i'm mexican? I don't bother anyone, I just want to work, play vidya and when the time finally comes kill myself at home

>>15316712
Bom saber, meu irmão tuga. I'm getting my law degree as soon as the fucking lockdown ends, and moving there next year - at least that's what I'm expecting. We have too much lawyers in BR, and by having a portuguese citizenship I could work in a law firm in Porto or Lisbon. I've been there once in my grandparents hometown and it was the loveliest place in I've seen.

>>15311964
These cost about 1€ per pack. It's more of a time concern at that point since you have to pretty much chain smoke for at least 12-16 hours to inhale that much smoke

>>15312680

your spliffs look awful. learn to roll.

>>15312041
>And the worst part is when you try to confront a German about this, they get all defensive and start trying to say how their apples are perfectly normal, perfectly fine

kek

>>15313468
"If you can't sleep at night, it's not the coffee it's the bunk."
- Preston Sturges

>>15314530
never heard that but he used to have his wife chain him to his desk and lock the door to his study, then he had her refuse to bring him any food until he finished the alotted work for the day.

>>15316946
t. hohol

>>15312041
Natural apples are this size. Your GMO American cancer apples aren't "normal"

>>15312731
filtered

Cigarettes were like 10 cents a pack back then when it was just tobacco. Now with all the additives and that they are expensive

>>15312776
Those are pretty racist opinions.
The idea of literary drugs is a delusion. There is literature, and men who participate of it, and men who uses drugs to try to find alternative paths to expression, or just to think.

>>15316972
muh weed elitism

And Sartre did meth, Freud used to be a cocain addict. Shit is crazy.

>>15318323
>Those are pretty racist opinions.
You have to go back.

>>15312120
>>15312659
Christ I live in the midwest and pay $6 for a pack of reds

>>15318567
buy a box of them and sell them in strayacunt for a nice profit

>>15318230
I prefer unfiltered

>>15312776
Rimbaud smoked hash and the beatniks smoked plenty of weed. Being unproductive on marijuana is incidental to an unproductive mindset. Anyways, marijuana use will be more and more normalized in the near future, so expect your position to become less tenable.
And good luck finding opium, it hasn't existed in the West for 60 years and virtually the entire world supply is processed into heroin. You would have to grow your own to make opium tea, which would ultimately land you into federal prison for 20 years.

>>15319606
>Rimbaud and the beatniks
Not the sort of people you should look up to anyway.

> "Some sources state Yukio Mushima drank perfume to mask the smell of european onions, which he consumed wholly & raw after every workout"
How?

>>15315966
google translate
>>15318215
actual kraut

> horse anon consumes an average of 5 plain sugar cubes a day as a quick snack
well they're right in my pocket and the cruch is delightful, usually i bite off about 1/3 and give the rest to the horse. enriched with pocket dust and horse hair

>>15316464
its a known fact that grass increases creativity from eight to eleven times

>>15319766
Very carefully

>>15317646
I need to get me a lady like that.

>>15319867
How do you measure creativity

>>15316464
you're supposed to reflect while high and use whatever insights you've gained or interesting states experienced in your sober writing. of course constant smoking will ruin you.
it's like saying acid is bad for creative writing because it's hard to write while peaking on it.

>>15319606
Yeah, Rimbaud is not a great standard. Great poet, but definitely an exception. He probably could've done meth and still been a good poet. The beatniks are trash. I couldn't give a fuck about them. Their works are vulgar and unremarkable. I'm not surprised they were stoners. Their works stink, smelly people. You can smell them when you read them. Unpleasant smell.

>>15320045
Kind of off-topic, but today if someone would do something similar to Rimbaud he would not be popular.

>>15320211
That's true, at least for literature. The only domain where extreme drug addiction is celebrated in probably music. I guess art as well. But literature seems to have lost its edge. I do think Rimbaud was pretty special. He seemed to be able to do pretty hardcore drugs without diminishing his talents (as far as we know). But most people if they did what he did would probably end up brain dead or artistically stunted. Pessoa seems similar. Special physiognomy.

>>15312112
>0.3%
weakling