/lit/ - Literature

We only love once.

>>15286166
thank you for saying this. i know so many people hate people like us for being idealistic and romantic, or they'll call us traditional white men for believing in love (and they'll call love a transhistorical capitalist strategy) but you really only do love once

and i miss her so fucking much

>>15286153
The point of the book wasn't even about the girl. It was Werther himself, the man. All else, even the romance, were only secondary. Plebs read this book only on an external level and come up with all sorts of vulgar simplistic takes. Stop being so obtuse and learn to discern what is happening behind the surface.

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>>15286166
>>15286181
This board has some good feels. It's easy for an angry man to begrudge someone in love.

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>>15286949
w8 guys tell me this shit isn't real. Is it too late for me, I fell headlong over this girl and then she scorned me for another guy. Can I make it?

>>15287070
you will make it, but the next love will just be an imitation of the first. all loves are derivations of their original focus. you will learn to accept it and countenance it.

or, if you're lucky, you might get this girl back. i wish the very, very best for you

>>15286166
maybe plebs like you do

>>15287070
Truer than one would hope. Just focus on your growth and enjoy puss along the way. Women are not valueless, but they are not her so don't believe the lies you tell them.

>>15286166
Second that anon. I miss her and it will never be the same. What’s stopping me from buying a flintlock, dressing like him, and blowing my brains out with a copy in my hand?

Everyone itt whining about girls missed the point by a pretty wide margin imo. Stop being faggots

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>>15286181
I've love more than once. But I don't think I can love anymore. I've never really loved a woman beyond the age of 23.

Well someone had to write about it.

>>15287814
>he doesn’t get negative-meta

>>15287785
tell us about her, anon

Imagine missing a w*man. They are the unaesthetic sex as I like to call them

>>15286181
Lol fags

>>15286166
I doubt Goethe would have ended Faust the way he ended it if he believed we only love once. Faust has more than one woman and it's the final love who's the vehicle for his transcendence.

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>>15287130
>my first love was simping for a tranny on shitcord
Brutal. Is it over?

>>15287785
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>>15286166
>my first love was simping for a tranny on shitcord
Brutal. Is it over for me?

>>15286153
>Why not go for another bitch
Isn't this just the painful story of being a man?

>>15286166
I don't know if this is true but something tells me I'll never love someone they way I love the first

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>>15287785
And people wonder why women shouldn’t be promiscuous

>>15289261
It happens to women all the same. If anything the idea is a call to monogamy, not promiscuity. Shrug

>>15289271
>shrug
Cringe

>>15287070
Nobody will come close to my high shool crush. She was actually heavily into me but back then I was mentally ill and self sabotaged. You dont only love once, but the feeling gets weaker with age. I am jaded already and even if I had a gf it would be half hearted. Cant imagine falling for somebody like I did for her back then

>>15289284
Thanks anon, I will be more assertive with my ideas. Lol

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>>15287130
Werther is stuck on his mother and finds her again in whatshername. You can love many times if you find mommy substitutes. Sometimes the substitute is so perfect you think it's impossible to find it again (hence the idealization "you only love once")

>>15287070

unfortunately it is. I loved once when I was seventeen, had gfs before and after, and was even engaged twice after the fact. Its never the same. The first one is the true one. I broke off both engagements because I realised their entire purpose was to fill a pit.

>>15287130
>>15289490
except my love was the opposite of my mother, i.e. light hair, dark hair, size, features, everything in general. I suppose Freud would stil agree with you, because exact opposites are not falsifying but significant.
So the more woman I encounter past my initial version of love will be degenerate from that ideal to some degrees? And the longer I wait the worse my chances are?
>>15289292
also youre literally me

>>15289955
Frenhug. You will find it again. Or maybe not but you will have the memories and find some bland girl to quench the loneliness
>>15289964
Analysts say the worst move is to abandon your will-desire and conduct life passive and half hearted. But, I could never blame an uncompromising man that shoots high and gets tired after repeated failures to find his ideal.
Maybe you can try the clever trick of transposing this idealized love to God

>>15290086
if I transpose it to Christ, and then I fully love nothing but Christ, because to r e a l l y love an infinite being one must abandon the finite, which is to say ones r e a l life, then can I love a woman in a less crippled way? Because then one would recognize, as Andrew did in War and Peace (keep it lit), that to love ones neighbors is to love nobody, but to love the Lord. So in this way one could have a successful marriage? Perhaps.

Wasn't Goethe's point how foolish it is to obsess about that one single love you can't have, like Werther did? It alwasy struck me as more of a cautionary tale than an exaltation of that romantic obsessiveness.

>>15289955
This is true. I was seventeen the first time I fell in love and it was the only time in my life I'd talk to someone all night and fall asleep without even realizing it. Morning after morning I couldn't remember falling asleep, only talking to her. Never have I even come close to something like that.

>>15290221
Do you think it's possible he desired her exactly because he couldn't have her? And that what he most desired was being exactly in that position of awe before an untouchable other?

>>15290086

thank you for frenhug, brother.

>>15286166
>tfw unrequited love
That means that I had never really be on love right? I cheated the system!

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>>15287130
>mfw haven't loved yet
Though I might turn into a simp if it comes.

>>15289180
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>>15287070
unironically, there's plenty of people to fall in love with still

>>15286153
The residue of chivalry.

>>15290507
is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all, Based Byron, I pity you

>>15289955
You realized that marriage was a trap. Good job.
I doubt any of you sad no lovers can even define what love is.

>>15287785
Shoot yourself in the heart. More poetic than spazzing around for half a day because you didn't hit properly.

>>15290973
Cope.
You can never connect to anyone like the first time ever again.
It's over.

>>15291388
But you are the life-denying coper.

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>>15286181
>Imagine not having a harem

>>15291437
I'm just affirming what has been known for millennia but forgotten in recent years.

>>15291437
you can begin to appreciate life once you deny the sordidness of women. I know this personally. Sure having a wife is nice, and kids are a virtue, but if you must compromise your virtue, or submit to an authority lower than your God, than it is not worth worrying over. If it comes along by itself then it is natural and good, if not, then look at a nice tree, listen to some Bach, and taste the air.

>>15291183
I don't think about you at all.

>>15291771
retard. I obviously meant I pity people like you, I pity those elements of complacency that are common between you and other losers. It wasn't personal at all, your that desperate for someone to think about you that you presumed that I in any way cared about you? The nazis pitied the jews for being inferior, they certainly didn't care for them at all.

>>15286227
ding ding ding