/lit/ - Literature

Holy shiet Schopenhauer is right.

I can.

>>15284151
As much as I love schoppy, hes a bit of an incel nigger at times

Based

>>15284234
he's literally a volcel aryan tho

>>15284151
>for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted
>they’re good at something so they must be like the people to which the thing is done
Wrong.

>>15284151
Fucking based

When I read on women I keked the whole time

>>15284151
holy based

>>15284151
this guy is kants aristotle. Cant live up to the hype, but is somehow even more autistic.

I made this >>15269061 topic and I'm glad that he was recommended. Very good to read!

>>15284418
No it's
>they are like that which is why they are good at it
The other way round you see?

>>15284151
And the fact that a man writing about women in Frankfurt in 1840 makes so much sense to a man reading in a different country in 2020 is (part of the) proof that gender is absolutely not a social construct. Schoppy's insights will still ring true in another 200 years and more.

>>15284459

wtf does this even mean

>>15284595
it's not like it's a mystery, aristotle said similar things over 2000 years ago. Really anyone can just observe it for themselves

The tone of Schopenhauer's writing about women sounds bitter though.

>>15284619

I would say it sounds bitter in the same way that someone with a good character would describe living in a world full of bad people.

Schopey is a genius. I'm sure he was irritable, but the more intelligent you are, the harder it is to find a true counterpart on the other side that can understand you completely. He was well traveled, rich, and a decent looking guy when he was young, so I would just assume he was too smart for his own good with women and just gave up.

Does anyone have that quote where he compares women with sacred monkeys that think they can do everything they want?

>>15284151
based arthur

Men and women are supposed to be equal? More like I dont consider women people!

I hate whores.

>>15284754
They're the sacred apes of Benares. He says something about "convinced of their own inviolability."

>>15284234
Die tourist pig.

>>15284992
>This is just the view which the ancients took of woman, and the view which people in the East take now; and their judgment as to her proper position is much more correct than ours, with our old French notions of gallantry and our preposterous system of reverence—that highest product of Teutonico-Christian stupidity. These notions have served only to make women more arrogant and overbearing; so that one is occasionally reminded of the holy apes in Benares, who in the consciousness of their sanctity and inviolable position, think they can do exactly as they please.
Based

>>15284336
>volcel
He wasn't celibate.

>>15284681
>too smart for his own good
he actually has written about this in a small piece in parerga and paralipomena II. He talks about the relation between intellect and will and what happens when person's intellect exceeds will and vice versa. he says that for a normal/balanced life will and intellect should be existing in same amounts. he also says that if intellect exceeds the will by high amount you will ultimately end up prone to miserability. he used himself and goethe as an example

>>15284595
social constructs can be rigid and static-ish, though. are you conflating social-constructedness with truth or something? what do you mean here, anon?

>>15285004
he was mentally ill. he was neurotically anxious. just read a biography.

>>15285266
Quiet w*man.

>>15285239
>are you conflating social-constructedness with truth or something?
How in the fuck did you even come to write this idiotic sentence. You know exactly what he's doing, he's saying the behavior is innate, rather than socially conditioned, or inaccurately perceived. Why are you pretending you don't know that's what he meant you fucking faggot.

>>15285228
this. he himself said he probably would think different if woman ever wanted him back. he had a female friend though.

>>15285269
funny. I'm probably the only one in this who read schopenhauer.

>>15285270
i’m asking because i want to know if he thinks women have some kind of biological connection to childishness or short-sightedness. it was an earnest question, though it may have come off as unduly hostile. i was looking to have a discussion about this behavior in women being socially rewarded vs. the behavior being innate, because i do think this is sort if a twofold issue of nature not acting alone/being helped along by society. i figured by asking what he meant by saying “not a social construct” would open that up.

>>15285270
>>15285343
apologies—in the last sentence there is a typo, disregard the "by" in "i figured by"

>>15284151
GOD I'M CRINGING SO MUCH MY BALLS ARE DYING AND MY ASS IS AS HARD AS A ROCK

>>15284151
Sounds legit. Certainly conforms with my own lived experience.

>>15285266
>mentally ill
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.-Jiddu Krishnamurti

Of course women are closer to children, if only for the fact that they need to be able to relate to small children on an emotional level as nurturers.

>>15285343
Married anon here, 25 year veteran.
It is simple biology.
Just going through their period every month makes all of them become wonky and inconsistent with the rest of their month: some of them become downright irrational and even vicious. And menopause can be like that, only on steroids, for years. That is why many cultures have primogeniture, especially when it comes to inheriting political power!

>>15285487
Who do you refer to, faggot

>>15285518
ah, interesting - thanks for your input. i do agree that PMS symptoms do significantly alter many women's behaviors, but i wonder if there's some way to stop rewarding babyish behavior. i'm not talking about the less odious characteristics of femininity such as gentleness etc. but the fact that women are not held to any standards to speak of—they're allowed to be functionally retarded which prohibits them from being able to fully realize their potential, and i want to believe they have potential. because men (and other women) expect nothing, women do nothing. men expect irrationality, women behave irrationally. men accept women's half-formed thoughts and indulge them as though they're scholars on whatever they just spitballed out, women believe they're excelling at everything. do you see what i mean about indulgence? there has to be some kind of fix for this!

>>15285518
what's interesting is that menopause, or the lack of progesterone increases women's ability for 3D thinking and rotations.

>>15284151
Imagine if Schopy lived now.. in this day & age.. his brain will definitely explode

>>15285575
He'd probably be posting on /r9k/ or doing call-ins to FACE&LMS livestreams.

>>15285177
The fact that it would be welcome relief to return to a society with as strict an arrangement of gender roles as existed in the Europe of Schopenhauer is a testament to the near complete degeneration of the West. We've let women utterly destroy our institutions, and in the matter of decades our whole civilization is collapsing. Genius has disappeared from universities. Businesses have been turned into brothels. Social alienation is the new norm. Blah blah blah. And all the rest of it. But you can't blame women because the reality is that they are like children. They have a deep pathetic need to be stopped, to be dominated and restrained. But like everything else with women, this truth can't be spoken out loud or even acknowledged. So that the only real means of reversing course is for Western man to grow a pair of balls. Women will never respect weak men, and weak societies will always be at the mercy of strong societies. How much longer before the Spell is Broken?

>>15285237

Yes. But at the same time the best way for a genius to not be miserable is to escape for long periods at a time into his genius, into pure cognition.

>>15284151
If that's so true then why did Alexander benefit from Aristotle's teachings more than he ever would from a stinky, big breasted mommy??
Don't think he'd be conquering the world, but instead conquering a big milf.

>>15284151
Cope

>>15285652
women ruined even the game market
people just blame capitalism but it is the women

So, how do you retards reconcile the psychological constructs such as the Anima?

Are you all devoid of any femininity whatsoever?