/lit/ - Literature

>>15277629
And Buddha lived an indulgent lifestyle in a palace until he was 30 and Paul persecuted many Christians etc, people change. It seems clear that Guenon rejected occultism, he shits all over it in his books and steers his readers towards actual religions instead

>>15277629
QRD? I can't read frog.

Holy cringe.. . Gonna burn the books of him I own now...

>>15277629
Another Free Gay Son

>>15277645
>>15277629
What's wrong with occultism?

>>15277629
There's a new Perennial Initiation in town.

>>15278498
it's literally fake and gay

>>15277629
He converted to Islam when he was 23

Converting to Islam is a pretty massive one. Enough in itself really

>>15279158
>>15279149

You guys probably don't know the affair Guénon had with the medium letters or which were received by certain Italian community

I can reproduce it here, but funny how never have seen it mentioned in any Guénon threads here on /lit/

Embrassing stuff, for Guénon

>>15279158
A lot of red headed spergs and drug fucked losers convert to Islam all the time. Its mostly white trash or bogans as we call them in Australia, with low education from what I have observed

>>15279174
>I can reproduce it here
Is it where he admits to engaging in cum-rituals? Do it, it'll btfo the last refuge of the guenonfags on here.

>>15279311
Nope. I can paste it here when I get home.

There was some sort of Italian oracle that claimed to be in contact with muh Tibetan Masters. Guénon thought it was genuine communication.

Basically it was some sort of puzzle-kabbalah-box that gave "true answers" to things past & present

He says himself that his soul was polluted from his years as an occultist, which is why he turned down the many people who begged for him to be their personal spiritual guide.

? The entire reason he came up with the counter-initiation doctrine is because he had experience with the so called 'esoteric' group such as masons, gnostics etc... and he realized they were all larp.

Do you hold an undercover police officier accountable for the groups he infilitrates? A journalist investigating a pedophile ring means he is a pedophile? Do you realize how dumb you sound?

Maintenant upload ton URL en entier parceque personne n'a de compte scribd

>>15279715
>>15279589
>>15279149

So just because Guénon converted to some real tradition, that does not make him agent counter-tradition itself?

What about this man?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Trebitsch-Lincoln

He became even a buddhist abbot. One of the biggest agents and foreign spies of counter-initiation one has ever seen.

Also taking in account Guénon's paranoia of later years, I believe his relocation to Egypt was for totally different reasons than honest conversion

>>15279443
>Basically it was some sort of puzzle-kabbalah-box that gave "true answers" to things past & present

>>15280134
Guénon and him have much in common.

>>15280134
... just quit posting, you are not very bright

>>15280146
The point is: why are you so sure that Guénon was not directly under the influence of Papus, even in his later years, as books like "Seven Heads of the Green Dragon" hint?

>>15280162
>as books like "Seven Heads of the Green Dragon" hint?
what does it say about Guenon for us non-frenchfags?

>>15280245
Why did Guénon ear the ring with the word "AUM/AVM" incsribed on it even after his conversion to Islam?

He never left those occult orders he claimed, that ring alone proves it. Even after his conversion to Islam he always wore that Ring.

His association to the literal CIA shill Nasr makes me doubt his intentions...

>>15280257
That's a Hindu symbol, not an occultist one

>>15278506
Based. This is the only real tradition left.

>>15280675
Have you even read Guénon beyond the introduction to Hindu doctrines?

There are multiple books, including King of the World, where he discusses the symbolism of AUM/AVM and it's connection to certain Rosicrucian and occult orders that were transferred from the East to West

>>15280750
he speculates about the hypothetical existence such a connection but he never establishes it and even then it would have been a case of westerners using a much older eastern symbol which goes back thousands of years, the symbol is itself not tainted if some occultists or larpers adopted it in the last several hundred years

>>15280257
>He never left those occult orders he claimed
he was also initiated into a "taoist" order and said that one cannot remove an "initiation" once you are "in the Tradition". it then begs the question why he even needed to collect so many distinct initiations in the first place.

>>15279295
Guenon's time was different, it was mostly french orientalists who were having a love affair with Islam at the time, nobody else cared.

Guénon was a cringe traitor to the faith. Wouldn't he be executed in the traditional times he so admires?

>>15282605
No because at those times he would have been a Catholic, his issue with the current Church is that they have gone full modern/retard (according to Guénon). Such is obvious from his writings - though I'm unconvinced so far by his conversion (which-for-him-isn't-a-conversion) to Islam. Hard to understand how you can go from masonry and occultism to Islam because you are in love with hinduism and reject Catholicism.
Tell me about a complicated man.

>>15282605
He was at least based for inspiring Fr Seraphim Rose

bump

Didn't he also get annoyed that a weird gnostic church group wouldn't ordain him as a bishop so he left and got into Hinduism? Almost sounds like an anime plot. Is there a collection of all these stories about Guenon compiled somewhere?

>>15278498
Occultism today is narcissist masturbation.

>>15277629
Guenon didn't know a lot about Islam and never learned classical arabic. He hardly ever engages with the Quran and was taught everything he knew by a nearby sheikh. His library consisted mostly of Hindu texts with very little on Islam and Sufism.

Guenon has a genuinely anti-modern world view but his project is deluded and flawed.

>>15283379
Guenon never believed in Christianity. He believed medieval Catholicism was VALID because it took stuff from Celtic paganism and Islamic theology, but he did not believe in Christianity and admits that he never really considered what Christians say about early Christianity to be true.

>>15284840
Don't forget that his Sanksrit teacher rejected the idea of a primordial religion. This the beginning of the never ending butthurt Guenon had about all academics.

>>15277629
pbuh...

Guenon pretty much believed Catholicism was the only viable system for a Western "Tradition" to be built on. He says it in "The Crisis of the Modern World"

>>15285016
>today

>>15280673
Is Nasr really a CIA shill?