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What can I read that talks about culture and art? Specifically the changing of taste and culture as society progressed?

>> No.15274850

bump :(

>> No.15274865

>>15274319
Hegel's aesthetics? Or do you mean aesthetics in regards to political movements or technological advances?

>> No.15274874

>>15274319
Just decide what progress you mean. The progress of a less masculine culture, a more corporate one, there are tons of commentaries on everything

>> No.15274888

>>15274319
>Specifically the changing of taste and culture as society progressed?
Don't you mean "regressed"?

>> No.15274887

>>15274865
>>15274874
No just talk about how the history of how taste of society changes with the times and talk about modern culture and art in our current times. Just like Scruton's books on culture

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Leisure | The Basis of Culture, Pieper

>> No.15274940

>>15274887
What taste? Like music, arts, literature? Marx has a theory, Hegel does, everyone does

>> No.15274963

>>15274940
I'm looking for books that talk about more about the history of the arts in regards to culture/taste. Not philosophical books.

>> No.15274978

>>15274963
You're never going to find what you're looking for. In fact I implore you to just read idol twitter feeds and their fans

>> No.15274985

>>15274978
But I've read books like this?

>> No.15275008

>>15274985
No you haven't. What you said is basically nonsense. Nothing you've said is defined and nothing you've put out there makes any sense. You're defining taste, culture and progress by your own unspoken definition and haven't considered anything that relates to it.
Stop reading pop books scrunton isn't an authority on culture at all, that's simply a political pundit anymore than I ask Ben Shapiro to lead a gender transition surgery

>> No.15275032

>>15275008
So the stuff I read isn't real even though I read it and what I'm looking for doesn't exist even though I can name different authors who have written about it.

>> No.15275059

>>15275032
I already gave you your answer. You will not find what you're looking for. You will find at most what is agreeable and you will settle on it

>> No.15275083

>>15275059
Are you mentally ill?

>> No.15275085

>>15274319
That's a lot of the Frankfurt school (first and second generation). Primarily Adorno. Though they will likely conflict with the perception of culture 'progressing.' The Birmingham School of cultural criticism addressed the place of art and culture from the viewpoint that they are expressions of the dialects of political hegemony. For more conservative takes, Burke and Arnold are interesting canonical writers on the subject. It's honestly a big spread depending on your particular interest in the subject. Can you be more specific about what you want to explore?

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>>15274963
you must be dumb as bricks, son

>> No.15275181

>>15275085
Something like going over art history by going from cathedrals to brutalist brick boxes and going from Mozart to Lil Uzi Vert and telling us how this change happened historically and what changed in the culture to make this happen? Kinda like Tom Wolfe.

>> No.15275196

icycalm

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>>15274319
Jacques Barzun - From Dawn to Decadence and The Culture We Deserve

>> No.15275732

>>15275181
Ohhhh. Very dated but Ruskins Seven Lamps of Architecture may scratch your itch. There are more contemporary books but I need to think more.

>> No.15275781

>>15275181
The Geography of the Imagination by Guy Davenport, though it is essays mostly about poets and writers and stops around the middle of the 20th century.

Culture by Terry Eagleton

>> No.15277084

I really liked modern times modern places for the rise and development of modernism. Kind of mastrurbatory but it really covers it all.