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15257580 No.15257580 [Reply] [Original]

Who is the best villain / antagonist in literature?
>is it pic related?

>> No.15257584

>>15257580
villan
>me
book
>my diary desu

>> No.15257638

>>15257580
Definitely the women that caught HCE in the park

>> No.15257643

that picture is how i imagine that possessed scientist guy in the second book of the space trilogy

>> No.15257648

>>15257643
C.S. Lewis' space trilogy?

>> No.15257771

Did he actually exist?

Did he rape and murder those kids that kept showing up dead?

Did he murder rape the man at the end of the book in the toilet?

Does he still dance to this day?

Such things will never be known.

>> No.15257775

>>15257648
yeah

>> No.15257947

>>15257775
I thought he had a mustache?

>>15257771
>Does he still dance to this day?
of course he does, he said he will never die.

>> No.15257951

>>15257947
i don't always imagine characters exactly as described. frankly, can't remember if he had a mustache anyway

>> No.15257985
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>>15257951
i always imagined him as a hairless giant Woody Harrelson

>> No.15257994

>>15257985
oddly terrifying

>> No.15258003

>>15257985
did he talk like woody harrelson too?

>> No.15258602

>>15258003
yes, but in a sexier devilish way

>> No.15258669
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15258669

>>15257580
For me, it's a tie between Woland and friends from the Master and Margarita, and Mephistoheles from Faust (both Marlowe and Goethe)

(someone should make a villain chart)

>> No.15258680

Raskolnikov

>> No.15258830 [SPOILER] 
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>>15257580
Yhwh

>> No.15258896

>>15257580
I didn't like the book much, but the father of the protagonist in Nnedi Okorafor's "Who Fears Death" was weirdly harrowing.

>> No.15259175

>>15258830
ok, that was pretty good

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>>15257580
Iago from Othello is pretty based

>> No.15259206

>>15257580
I would have to say a character that is the antithesis of a protagonist. Not just someone who is evil, no, something more important. Someone who loses where the hero fails, someone who is weak despite his powers, fighting a hero who is strong despite his. Someone who is destined to be hated, to be a loser, to be the one who does not succeed, not matter what, someone who possess no good qualities, someone who cannot even love those he cares about, and someone whose existence is only there so that he may experience misery and punishment for being evil, who only possesses strength so that he may be embarrassed when he falls.

>> No.15259290
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15259290

Gil-Martin. And it honestly pains me that no one on /lit/ has read The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner because I yearn for a discussion about it. Please read it.

>> No.15259367

I'm bored with 100% sociopathic monsters, what are some great villains in literature with human moments?

>>15259290
What's it about?

>> No.15259394

>>15259367
I am a fan of Svidrigailov from C&P. Stravóguin from Demons.
Cao Cao from Three Kingdoms. Most books don't have an antagonist as uninteresting as the concept of sociopathy per se. The judge is a example of an almost alien terror well made, which is unusual for this kind of villain

>> No.15259444

>>15259290
It truly is a masterpiece. I’m upset that it is barely acknowledged by anyone.
>>15259367
Different anon but I’ll answer. A zealous son of a Calvinist minister and his devoted follower is forced into a misanthropic world view by their exclusionary religious teachings and he is eventually led to the belief that, in accordance with the Calvinistic teachings of predestination, he is one of the justified elect whom can never commit an act that would absolve him of salvation. Gil-Martin, implied to be the Devil, forces the son, Robert, to commit wicked acts (for the cause of purifying the Church) by placing him into a state of eternal dependency which he cannot break free from. My synopsis probably does it an injustice, but I would consider it to be one of the greatest pieces of fiction I’ve ever read. Give it a read.

>> No.15259507

>>15259290
>>15259444
Hmm... that actually sounds really interesting, I'll put it on my to read list.
Thanks for the rec!

>> No.15259616

>>15259290
>>15259444
I read a good portion of it after reading these posts, it's pretty good

>> No.15259648

>>15257580
The Judge was so difficult for me to imagine as prescribed. Throughout the book I sort of just imagined him as a normal pale human.

>> No.15259801

>>15259648
I had him pictured as sort of a pale human version of Hellboy

>> No.15259921

>>15259801

so Ron perlman hairless? kinda dope

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>>15257580
>>15257771

>> No.15260292

>>15257580

What a truly terrible picture.

The Judge should be something like Brando in Apocalypse Now crossed with Orson Welles.

Not some stupid grinning imbecile.

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>>15260292
nyehee

>> No.15260506

>>15257580
Cain from Cain and Abel, period.

>> No.15261562

>>15259290
>>15259444
holy fuck this is kino
thanks anons

>> No.15261570

>>15257580
Lord Voldemort

>> No.15261573

>>15258830
Would you kindly direct me to the source of that image, m'lady?

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>>15258830
>this how YHWH looks
he kinda thicc doe

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>> No.15261932

>>15259290
Just got myself the book after looking it up, thanks anon.

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>> No.15263242

>>15259444
Ah, a fellow connoisseur. Glad it hasn’t went completely unnoticed on this board.
>>15259507
>>15259616
>>15261562
>>15261932
No problem. Hope you enjoy it. I should also mention that it is split into two narratives. First, the “editor’s narrative” which provides a somewhat factual, semi-omniscient accounts of the events that take place and then the memoir, as written by Robert, covers these events again.
>>15261932
And nice. Which edition did you get?

>> No.15264271

>>15263088
They all look good except the kid, he looks like a 45 year old midget.

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>>15257580

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>>15257580

>> No.15264753

>>15258669
>For me, it's a tie between Woland and friends from the Master and Margarita, and Mephistoheles from Faust (both Marlowe and Goethe)
Neither are exactly antagonists, though. (And technically, they're the same character)

>> No.15264877

>>15257580
Judge Holden is my hero.

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>>15257985
I think he could do it as well.

>> No.15265925

>>15257771
There’s no hint of rape in the end with the Kid who is now the Man who said Don’t go in there.

>> No.15266319

>>15260292
Yeah, he didnt look like a cartoon demon, just a huge pale guy.
You don’t even notice he’s something other than a chaotic neutral gang member until he starts to let slip that he’s borderline all-knowing.

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15267301

I really liked Uriah Heep, he manages to become a villain to basically everyone he meets, is just a fuckin grotesque and slimey streak of piss, and when he gets exposed and fucks off the umble persona and starts going mental is fuckin tremendous

>> No.15267320

>>15267301
as a villain obviously, I didn't actually like the cunt. Also forgot to mention his fucking constant writhing about like a retard.

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>>15265071
I always imagined the judge as john malkovich for some reason.