/lit/ - Literature

Blown out of orbit. Based Seneca.

he's just butthurt that plato wouldn't let him into his academy

>>15244094
Is this photo real?

>>15244235
What's wrong with it? They aren't doing anything wrong.

>>15244069
holy fucking gigabased

>>15244069
how can STEM insects ever recover?

>>15244069
I used to be a STEMcuck but after reading this I am not a Stoic missile

>>15244272
By earning money.

>>15244287
Most undergrad degree stem positions pay in the 30s or 40s starting USD in most areas. That's not earning money. That's kill yourself salary.

>>15244287
>virgin replaceable dime a dozen code monkey wagecucking his empty life away
>chad humanities major studying what brings him meaning and fills his soul with wisdom

>>15244360
Its diamond dozen not "dime a dozen". That doesn't even make sense.

>>15244370
kek

>you can do all those things but can you also measure something imaginary HMMMMM?
this is pure midwit cope

>>15244069
>what use is that to you if you've no idea what straightness means in life?"
Seneca didn't have any idea either plus he couldn't calculate shapes. 0/2

>>15244379
yes, we stemfags also sometimes use imaginary numbers

>Chad fucks my gf, but can he fuck WISDOM?

>>15244426
>STEMfag
>Chad
pick one

>>15244426
>stemfag thinking like a bugman
Like pottery.

>>15244572
oh no not the automaticallywinargumentword

>>15244069
It's okay, not everybody can be good at math. This is what makes the STEM field intrinsically superior.

Anyone can study philosophy, you just have to read the books. Understanding mathematics takes intellect.

>>15244232
>Plato
Seneca was Roman

>>15244937
well done boy

>>15244287
Seneca was the richest man in the Roman Empire.

>>15244636
Seneca probably knew geometry. He was also richer than any mathematician of his day.

>>15244566
You can be a STEMcel or a /lit/cel and still be depressed and tfw no gf-y
>>15244572
Yeah it's so much better to think about bugmen all day long than to be an unaware bugman, right?

>>15244295
and yet it still btfos non-stemcucks lol

>>15245021
everyone who's not old money should kill themselves

Sounds quite bitter but still kinda based. I guess a stemfag stole his gf

He should have lived in a cave if he despised mathematics and science so much. Why are these people so bitter?

>>15245046
It's a matter of priority, there were no doubt countless people accosting him in order to exploit his wealth for their gain.

>>15245046
>Why are these people so bitter?
stemfags are pretty annoying desu

>>15245052
Ah, of course. So that was the context of this statement.

>>15245070
Well, I'll check my copy to see the exact context and post back here in a bit to confirm.

>>15245046
Reddit comment.

>>15245070
>>15245084
So this particular letter, LXXXVIII, begins with the following two sentences:
>You want to know my attitude towards liberal studies.
>Well, I have no respect for for any study whatsoever if the end is making money.
He talks about other areas of liberal studies like music and literature.
He describes these other fields of studies as "out apprenticeship, not our real work."
I recommend reading the letter in full though (along with the other ones).

>>15244069
Yes Seneca and actual Stoicism is very based, shame that all the plebs just assume its some kind of Pewdiepie tier "let's get this bread and love doing it 7 days a week" which modern self-help brainlets have co-opted it. A reading of primary sources like Letters from a Stoic even for the first few pages should tell you that everything you've assumed about it is completely incorrect and that's it's actually the most based philosophy and unironic answer to life

>>15244295
>starting
key word there lad

>>15245150
Thanks

>>15244976
How much more money did he have than Nero?

>>15244370
yet you still understood what he meant by it, who is the bigger fool?

>>15244069
assmad brainlets literally never change

>>15244235

>Muh degeneracy

Fucking Americans. Let them enjoy a smoke.

>>15246118
who are you quoting?

>>15244069
Lab Coats on suicide watch after this

>>15245282
Based

>>15244069
that literally reads like a pro STEM argument buddy

>>15244069
Hegel loved to shit on math too

>The convincingness of this defective cognition is something of which
mathematics is proud and which it brags about to philosophy, but it rests
solely on the poverty of its purpose and the defectiveness of its material, and
it is for that reason the kind of thing that philosophy must spurn. – Its purpose, or its concept, is magnitude. It is precisely this relationship which is
non-essential and devoid of the concept. For that reason, the movement of
knowing in mathematics takes place only on the surface; it does not touch
on the thing that really matters, does not touch on the essence, or the concept, and hence it does not constitute any kind of comprehension of what
is at stake. – The material that provides mathematics with this gratifying
wealth of truths consists of space and numerical units. Space is the existence
in which the concept inscribes its differences as it would in an empty, dead
element in which the differences themselves are just as unmoved and lifeless. The actual is not something spatial as it is taken to be in mathematics;
neither concrete sensuous intuition nor philosophy wastes any time with
the kinds of non-actualities which are the things of mathematics.

> describes Jewish behaviour
> "STEMfags btfo"
?

as a stem guy I am deeply offended

>>15244976
> "all you people care about is money"
> hoards wealth to the point he is the richest in Rome
top kek

>>15245824
Enough to the point where Nero felt threatened and ordered him to suicide.

>>15246436

Jesus this is relentless, unironically does btfo STEM. Describes its flaw exactly, its concern and focus on understanding the external, it's here where the endeavour is misplaced as like Hegel says these things are dead and without substance. Nothing else matters for human beings other than the internal, everything else is just distraction from the actual pursuit and essence of existence

>>15244235
smoking is based

>>15244069
I'm STEMbro but I hate STEMfags who think science is the only important thing in life and that it's the only way to understand the world. Essentially I hate materialist bugmen.

>>15247860
7 planets

>>15244976
>>15246457
>>15246647
Yes Seneca was wealthy and powerful, he was the tutor of the emperor in childhood and remained as the close advisor to the imperator of all of Europe. He didn't give a fuck about his money though and wrote extensively about his practises regarding it, viewed it as a neutral thing and didn't actively seek it or get rid of it and he certainly wouldn't have lived in any luxury, he spoke frequently about undergoing periods of eating just pieces of bread per day and getting used to poverty for purity's sake. If he'd lost all his money in a day it wouldn't have bothered him at all, he might've even been thankful, one of the ways Nero forced him to not retire and retreat into a self-contained philosophical life like Seneca advises to do, was by forcing wealth upon him so that he had a moral obligation to continue his services to the state.

>>15247906
lifechanging stuff

>>15244069
>can state the distance separating stars

They could do that from back then? With no telescopes?

>>15247944
Telescopes are for incel bugmen. Guys back then could measure the distance from Earth to Mars just by pointing their boner towards Mmars. They had very long cocks.

>>15247920
I mean he did say "money is the poor man's master and the rich man's servant", but it's just hard to swallow that sort of philosophy from a guy owning entire estates all over the empire.

Fire
Is this proto NN Taleb?

>>15247970
Doubt that this was anything he actively sought, I remember the letter where he describes why travelling is pointless since you never escape your own company, were these given to him or something? Wouldn't make much sense for him to accrue wealth since he lived so frugally, there's even that story that it took him hours to bleed and needing a bath because of how thin his blood was due to a minimal diet

>>15247993
Now I don't know if he "actively" sought them, but he was very good at what he did, i.e. writing, politics, oratory etc. I doubt success just falls into someone's lap without him asking, but I suppose it's possible he just sought to do as good of a job for society as he could.

>>15248082
>>15247993
It might also have been that first he gained wealth and only afterwards came to the conclusion that it's not that important for happiness.

>>15248082
>>15248103
Yeah I think that's partly the case, remember when he was advising Lucilius to abandon his governorship of Sicily (I think) and to seek what really matters and says (paraphrasing, would have to find the exact line) "For I too remember how I once used to love to win my cases and give my eloquent speeches in the courts, then I became unwilling to do so, then unable."

>>15247978
Seneca certainly has made a big influence on Taleb, as he states in the book Antifragile

Any geometer can tell you that OP is not straight

>>15244069
Holy fucking shit, I never knew this much of a BTFO was achieved so many years ago.
Can STEMfags ever recover? Seriously, can they?