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Recommend me books to deepen my understanding of Neon Genesis Evangelion.

>> No.15228614

>>15228586
The Mystical Qabalah - Dion Fortune

>> No.15228622

harry potter

>> No.15228624

>>15228586
Ignore any memester who tells you to read about religion, the Catholic stuff in Eva is there to look cool. It's meaningless, Anno himself agrees.

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This. Anyone who likes anime is mentally ill and should be chemically lobotomized.

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>>15228624
>the Catholic stuff

>> No.15228662

>LOOK COOL!!!!!
airhead weebs repeat this meme because they think that symbolism is some kind of autistic cryptography where each symbol has to be encoded with literal lexical meaning or some shit rather than being a means of evoking feelings and relations in a very primal and impressionistic way.

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>>15228586
>posts As*ka

>> No.15228684

>>15228662
It's the fault of literl autism and STEMtardation. Art, in their eyes, is, as you say, just another code to be broken.

>> No.15228685

>>15228662
Couldn't agree more small souled bug man BTFO.

>> No.15228687 [DELETED] 

>>15228586
Underaged by v&

>> No.15228690

>>15228624
It may not have had an intentionally Christian message but there are quite clearly Christian themes whether intentional or not.

>> No.15228691

>>15228586
Frued:
>Interpretations of Dreams
>The Ego and the Id
>Totem and Taboo
>Civilization and its Discontents
Anna Freud:
>The Ego and Mechanisms of Defense
Klein:
>The Collected Writings of Melanie Klein vol 1 & 2
St. Augustus:
>Confessions
>City of God
Maybe Jung too

>> No.15228702 [DELETED] 

>>15228691
Coke addicts and a lesbian.

>> No.15228711

In all seriousness, Arthur Schopenhauer’s the World as Will and Representation.

>> No.15228724

>>15228624
>Eva thread!? crap I gotta post quick before a horde of Catholics get here

>> No.15228734

>>15228624
ignore this man, reading catholic texts will amplify your understanding of any media.

>> No.15228762

>>15228702
Sounds like a party. Also, Freud’s coke use is always overstated. He thought and even wrote a paper that it had great health benefits. This was before its addictive nature was understood. Nevertheless, Freud’s addiction was tobacco.

>> No.15228820

>>15228662
>>15228684
>>15228685
Fuck off artfags. Wanting there to be substance behind something is the opposite of bugmannery.
Your attitude is why every film student thinks their "experimental project" where they just mash together a bunch of shit is actually genius.

>> No.15228852

>>15228691
Definitely Jung and Lacan too.

>> No.15228934

>>15228690
It DOES have Christian themes. It IS intentional. No one claims otherwise.
"Evangelium" literally means "Gospel" in Latin and romance languages.

But it is purely aesthetic. Anno has said so. He is fucking ignorant in western religion.

>> No.15228956

>>15228586
Lmao it's a fuckin coming of age mecha anime what's there to understand? Go spend your time on something worthwhile

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>>15228586
Is this image meant to be sexual? I coomed to it about two times whenever I saw it.

>> No.15228996

>>15228683
>posts gross used goods whore
yikes

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>>15228683
Best girl

>> No.15229007

>>15228683
Best character

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>>15228998
>>15229007
>>15228683
>actual misatofags on my board

>> No.15229112

Sartre's Being and Nothingness; Kierkegaard, The Concept of Anxiety and The Sickness unto Death

>> No.15229171

>>15228586

How do you think she comes?

>> No.15229179

"Really Looking" and Fichte - "Die Bestimmung des Menschen"

>> No.15229184

>>15228762
I miss when coke was based.

>> No.15229188

>>15228586
Prometheus & Atlas, Reza Jorjani

>> No.15229206

>>15228632
>>15228662
Based. Scruton BTFO'd anime. It is effeminate and inherently degrading to men which is why it cultivates transgender and homosexual individuals. The United States knew Japan would never amount to anything again after they injected the cultural rot of pornography and cartoons into their populus.

>> No.15229215

>>15228624
This but unironically.
You could waste your time reading more "cool stuff" or what Eva is actually about

>> No.15229222

>>15228820
Do you not understand how symbolism works? Not everything of “substance” is strictly intellectual or rationalistic. Intentional symbolic imagery is very different from this experimental art you’re referring to.

>> No.15229246

>>15228934
Yeah, I agree with you. I’m saying I don’t think he intended for it to have a Christian message. I’m saying it ended up having a Christian message whether he wanted it to or not because of the heavy symbolism, iconography, and philosophical themes which overlap with Christian theology. Not only would you have to know basics of Christianity like Adam and Lilith or the Dead Sea Scrolls to understand the aesthetics and the sea but he unintentionally made it have a Gnostic message precisely because he relied so heavily on specific imagery.

>> No.15229254

>>15229206
How is Western media any different?

>> No.15229290

>>15229206
You misread the second post you replied to retard.

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>>15228996

>> No.15229318

>>15229254
It’s not any different, it’s all trash to drown out thoughts about how shit your life is and to provide you with fleeting pleasure and entertainment. It’s soulless

>> No.15229339

>>15229246
>overlap with Christian theology
Like what?

>> No.15229384

>>15229290
Don't care. I hate anime.

>> No.15229476

>>15229206
>>15229206
>Scruton BTFO'd anime
Where? Please post the quote
>It is effeminate and inherently degrading to men
How so? If anything anime seems hypermasculine to me, but with traditional instead of modern masculinity

>> No.15229653

You'd probably be much better off reading classic New Wave science fiction like Brian Aldiss than any of the philosophy recommendations posted in this thread.

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Gravity's Rainbow

Misato is the normie's choice btw.

>> No.15229675

>>15228724
Any catholic who knows what he's talking about would agree that the show is not trying in any way to be catholic, it's just presenting a fictionalized rendition of its apocalypse and never pretends otherwise.

>> No.15229736

>>15229222
>Bro bro its transcendent bro you just can't describe it in words bro
You can claim there's a magical unnameable quality about literally anything this way, "You don't see how My Little Pony evokes feelings and relations in a very impressionistic way? YOU SOULLESS BUGMAN"

>> No.15229786

>>15229736
Evangelion never portends to serious exegesis, you misread the series if you think so.

>> No.15229871

>>15229339
The show casts Christian imagery over nearly every single character who are all pretty much more or less fucked up and struggling with existence. It’s a message regarding not only the nature of individuality a la the Hedgehog’s Dilemma but nature of sin, which plagued all of mankind particularly when they’re facing down the barrel of destruction. Another example is how Shinji ends up on a cross and is pierced by the lance of Longinus similar to the Holy Lance which pierced Jesus Christ during his crucifixion and ultimately, this represents Shinji’s choice to redeem mankind and life itself despite its inherent flaws. This is the message of Christ the redeemer. The story follows the evolution of Shinji in coming to terms with these truths that Christ was seen to represent from his birth. It’s ultimately a story of redemption.

Christianity is inherently symbolic. It’s theology preaches intuitive truths, not just intellectual ones so by adopting Christian imagery, the show necessarily takes in a Christian bend. Moreover, there’s overlap between Christian ideology and philosophy in Schopenhauer, psychology in Freud, and many more parallels so if it touches one, it touches the other. There’s honestly so much more but these are just examples.

>> No.15230189

>>15229871
Yeah but it cribs from apocrypha and even a fictionalized dead sea scrolls. It pays homage to christian and symbols, but largely to give the show a more apocalyptic flavour.

>> No.15230191

>>15229653
>classic New Wave science fiction like Brian Aldiss
Anything in particular?

>> No.15230766

>>15229188
Fuck off Jason