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All philosophizing and moralizing is based on cope, cope which desperately seeks to avoid the conclusion that there is no such thing as good and bad, and that ultimately might makes right. Seething betas come with concepts like hell, or God and learn to cope that way. It’s all a matter of convention and you’re wasting your time reading babbling with no bearing on the actual workings of reality.

>> No.15215379

>>15215376
You are going to hell. I have seen it. You are beyond the forgiveness of God. Your defiled soul cannot be purified at this point. Go to hell, you rotten demon!

>> No.15215383

Don't bother posting here then

>> No.15215384

Ok

>> No.15215385

>>15215376
I promote morality to weaken others spiritually

>> No.15215388

>>15215379
>hurr you’re gonna burn in a bit of fire FOR EVER
Like I said, this is cope plain and simple.

>> No.15215398

>>15215376
thats not true, the great philosophers themselves weren't pacifists

>> No.15215402

>>15215383
Dabbing on moralists is fun though
>>15215385
Based

>> No.15215403

>>15215388
This is not cope. I KNOW I am right. It is not a matter of belief. Have fun in hell.

>> No.15215408

>>15215402
>>15215383
Morality is an objective feature of morality, and you are both undeniably and most certainly going to hell. You are beyond the forgiveness of god. This I know for sure. Have fun in hell. The sooner you go there, the better.

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>>15215403
>muh desert book says so!
Cope

>> No.15215410

>>15215376

>Literal prerequisites for a functioning society are cope guise
>I'm very smart

>> No.15215413

>>15215408
>Morality is an objective feature of morality
Morality is an objective feature of reality*
Ignore typo.
But yeah, you are going to hell.

>> No.15215416

>>15215408
>Morality is an objective feature of morality
What did he mean by this?

>> No.15215418

>>15215410
>society
>good
Anything above the hunter-gatherer stage wad a mistake

>> No.15215420

>>15215413
Hume's is/ought distinction. Mic drop

>> No.15215422

>>15215408
>Morality is an objective feature of morality

>> No.15215424

>>15215408
>Morality is an objective feature of morality
This is the power of moralists...wow

>> No.15215427

>>15215376
You what you are saying is that when you talk philosophical about might makes right, thats just a cope for you being a bera male?

And we know your a beta male because your on here instaid of having sex.

>> No.15215432

>>15215409
>thinks this is just a feature of Abrahamic faiths
Have fun in hell.
>>15215420
I have thought over it a lot, and I have bridged the gap. I am absolutely right. In fact, I am a prophet.
>>15215422
I fixed my typo. Morality is objective feature of reality. Anyways, you are going to hell.

>> No.15215434

>>15215376
>ultimately might makes right
How is that not itself a cope?

>> No.15215440

the belief that "might makes right" is a cope if it is true, it is self defeating
>>15215418
"Society is bad" is a cope, you're basically a Hot Topic hippie

>> No.15215442

>>15215408
People who wish and hope for eternal torment are themselves evil.

>> No.15215445

>>15215376
sounds like a cope for being too dumb to understand philosophy

>> No.15215449

>>15215424
I fixed typo, you dumb piece of shit. Go to hell.

>> No.15215451

>>15215427
>You what you are saying
>bera male
>your a beta male
>instaid
Maybe OP was right, you’re a prime example of why social darwinism is based

>> No.15215458
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15215458

imagine being the 22 year old highschool dropout pseudointellectual that posted this thread

>> No.15215466

>>15215449
You couldn’t possibly be a Christian if you are assuming what will be or not be the judgment of God

>> No.15215476

>>15215434
It’s the opposite of cope. It provides no solace, only harsh reality.
>>15215445
>y-you just don’t get it!
>>15215449
You can’t even type you’re frothing at the mouth so much. I must poking holes in the whole framework of your false worldview

>> No.15215478

>>15215432
>objective features of reality

>> No.15215484

>>15215466
Yah, I'm not Christian.
>>15215476
Nope, I'm just saying you're undeniably going to hell. I know 100% I am not false.

>> No.15215489

>>15215476
>It provides no solace, only harsh reality.
You must be so mighty to have discovered this and to gloat about it on 4chan. That doesn't sound like cope behavior at all.

>> No.15215490

>>15215476
Have fun living in the woods alone I guess. High society won’t bat an eye

>> No.15215493

>>15215484
Prove hell exists. I’m waiting.

>> No.15215494

>>15215458
>he didn't drop out of school at 14 to produce roblox porn simulators

>> No.15215497

>>15215478
Ofc morality is an objective feature of reality. Everyone who disagrees is going to hell whether that is eternal or temporary. Absolute moral dualism is an undeniable reality. There are no gray spots. There are no ambiguities. There are no conceptual overlays. This obvious to the truly wise sages.

>> No.15215508

>>15215493
Just look into the filth that is your own mind. It's like a river connected to hell. My man, you are the very incarnation of a demon itself. You exist only to be banished by the sword of light. Your true form is like that of an abyssal dragon that devours everything in sight.
Have fun in hell. Can't wait till you get what you deserve!

>> No.15215513

>>15215497
>dualism is an undeniable reality

>> No.15215516

>>15215376
Hunter gatherer society was the weakest and least stable form of government though. Pick basically any organized setting of farmers and what not and they would perform better and probably kill/enslave the savages regardless

>> No.15215517

>>15215489
These are hardly original observations and I made no claim of having “discovered” it anymore than people can look out their window and observe the color of the sky. It’s the reaction that determines what is cope and what is not. It’s like when passive nihilists bitch and moan about reality being meaningless, desperately wishing for meaning. They cope.
>>15215490
Nor would I expect them to care

>> No.15215518
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15215518

>>15215376
>OP posted this bait just so he could samefag as a religious moralist and piss everyone off at the same time

>> No.15215522

>>15215513
Yes, demon.

>> No.15215523

>>15215508
>didn’t prove hell
Sasuga

>> No.15215525

>>15215376
Might makes right is a moral stance and therefore a cope

>> No.15215532

>>15215523
Just look into the filth that is your mind. I don't want to give my rigorous proof right now.

>> No.15215534

>>15215516
This is besides the point though. Might makes right is still operative, and what these farmers, just like the hunter-gatherers, view as “moral” is all founded on cope.

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>>15215532
H-holy shit...I....I gazed into the inner workings of my mind...and...I just imagined hell. IT’S REAL

>> No.15215542

>>15215484
You are clearly of Abrahamism, and a heretic regardless

>> No.15215550

>>15215541
You are incapable of truly looking because you are a demon.
>>15215542
I don't like Abrahamic filths.

>> No.15215554

>>15215525
No, it’s descriptive. Might IS right is moral

>> No.15215555

>>15215534
So you’re a US Republican?

>> No.15215556

>>15215379
Yaldaboath says good boy.

>> No.15215563

>>15215376
>t. philosophizing a response to a philosophizing society

Will to power shit operates in an ideological (praxeologically philosophical) framework either way.

>> No.15215564

>>15215554
You're still nesting value in it which isn't actually real

>> No.15215567

>>15215550
>I’m not an Abrahamist
>MUH DEEMONZ, MUH FIREPIT
Cringe
>>15215555
Horrible take

>> No.15215568

>>15215555
Better than a Demonrat worshiping the fags and niggers

>> No.15215571

>>15215550
Oh boy. Telling people they’re going to hell when you’re of some obscure religion .001% of the world population. Awesome.

>> No.15215577

>>15215571
The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way

>> No.15215579

>>15215567
Sorry, but you're going to hell. You're an illiterate and depraved faggot.
>>15215571
I just speak the Truth, that's all. Moreover, I am not saying it in a condescending matter. I am just pointing to their future.

>> No.15215583

>>15215568
You make a fairly decent point but that you’re even engaging in democrat vs republican semantics at all tells me you’re a brainlet

>> No.15215586

>>15215564
Does one nest value in merely describing the nature of reality? I don’t think so. If one observes certain things, there is not necessarily a value ascription. To me it is merely an inescapable fact, no matter how much I have tried to cope

>> No.15215590

>>15215579
Have sex lol

>> No.15215594

>>15215579
>illiterate
>an insult
Reading is deleterious to memory and oral traditions. I an not voluntarily literate

>> No.15215598

>>15215376
Is there a higher res version of this painting?

>> No.15215600

You are dumb as fuck.

Morality is a biological long term cooperative strategy with high barriers of entry.

You act in a moral / ethical way not because you are nice or weak, but because it foments cooperation and a group that cooperates will always defeat a group that doesn't.

It's the same reason that's behind altruism.
Read the work of George R. Price, that proved mathematically that altruism was the result of a purely advantageous strategy from a game theory perspective and thus the obvious product of natural selection and not the "inherit Cristian goodness of man".

Advance societies are more ethical and respectful of the individual not because they are weak or dumb but because they are cunning and know that in that manner they will extract the full potential of their members thus out competing their rivals.

A nerd is very week and pathetic in many ways but its the same guy that, if you respect him and give him a prominent place in society, also invents the nuclear bomb, the stealth bomber and fucking computer assisted aiming for your tanks. And if you have 1500 Abrams tanks with computer assisted aiming and your enemy has 3500 T-72 without assisted aiming, you destroy 100% of their tanks and only loose 3 like the Iraquies discovered the hard way during the Golf War. AND THAT IS TRUE POWER.

>> No.15215602

>>15215590
Sex is icky. I am a cultured and sophisticated man of light. I have no time for such carnal pleasures such as sex.

>> No.15215608

>>15215600
>Morality is a biological long term cooperative strategy with high barriers of entry.
Nope, this is wrong. Morality is ingrained into the very fabric of the universe. In fact, morality is primary and ontologically irreducible.

>> No.15215614

>>15215598
Look up The Struggle for Existence by George Bouverie Goddard

>> No.15215618

>>15215602
You get pretty horny about god and truth man idk sounds pretty carnal to me

>> No.15215625

>>15215602
>Sex is icky
Cope

>> No.15215631

>>15215618
That's why Christians are so against homosexuality. Everyone gets to be a bride of Christ in Heaven including dudes. And Jesus likes a tight virgin hole

>> No.15215636

>>15215631
>Everyone gets to be a bride of Christ in Heaven including dudes.
I get to be a sissy in Jesus’ harem? Hot

>> No.15215657

>>15215376
>posts this at the comfort of civilization

>> No.15215661

>>15215600
you just know the guy that typed this is a skinny necked dweeb with patchy facial hair thinking to himself "someday i'll show those jocks!"

>> No.15215676

>>15215657
>thinking this has bearing on anything I say

>> No.15215678

>>15215661
Christ poster is the same except more self-loathing at his chronic masturbation

>> No.15215681

>>15215631
Wait that’s actually metaphysically spooky

Church is the bridesgroom, Mary the mother, god the father, holy water in the basin the womb. How tf did this happen?

>> No.15215686

Reminder, reductive physicalism/materialism is retarded. Modern Neuroscience does not prove mind is reducible to matter. New Mysterianism is the most honest answer.

>> No.15215704

>>15215631
GIVE ME THE BACKGROUND BELIEFS SATANANON>>15215681
I NEED THIS

>> No.15215739

>>15215376
All is cope. Such is to be

>> No.15215741

>>15215586
You're using the word "right". That those with power always rule is tautology. That they ought to or that you ought to cultivate power is a moral statement, an inherently wrong one because there is no morality

>> No.15215897

Goddamn why couldn’t Jesus have been an asexual hermaphrodite with giant milkers bros

>> No.15215908

>>15215897
We need to bring back temple prostitutes

>> No.15215924

>>15215908
GIVE LIFE TO JESUS

>> No.15215980

I think you're right but I also think there are some basic moral principles that are just too obvious like treating people how you want to be treated. It doesn't matter that the natural order is pure brutality, I feel that humans are gifted in being able to perceive concepts such as fairness if nothing else, with it we can literally fight against our design to make existence a little bit more bearable for each other until we reach enlightenment and decide that we should stop reproducing

>> No.15215989

>>15215980
Define people

>> No.15216266

>>15215376
If there is no such thing as good and bad, how does might make right? There is no right on anyone's side, in that case. Also, "might makes right" is a silly formulation. "Right" is a limitation on proper action. If "all that can be done" (that which is in one's might) is the same as right, then it just means that there is no reason to speak of right, because no limitations on action can be upheld.
Also, you cannot even say "might is good" - there is no good. So just keep yourself to saying nothing.

>> No.15216351

>>15215376
>might makes right
You realize if this is true that you should worship God right? God is the strongest being after all.

>> No.15217044

>>15215376
You have no idea what philosophy is.

>> No.15217062

>>15215376
That morality and philosophy is also cope then