/lit/ - Literature

I am absolutely convinced that Hubbard, either accidentally or at the behest of some malicious force, fundamentally changed something about the human consciousness. He wasn't correct about nearly anything, but his words reawakened some dormant part of the mind that regulates how we construct memories and emotions. It's obvious when you look at what his contemporaries were saying at the time

>>15145028
>>15145051
I have to assume you two are trolling, but if you're not, take your meds.

Hubbard was a bad pulp author who made up heroic stories about himself, then founded a cult.

The e-meters literally work based on the grip of the person holding them. It's the most primitive lie detector imaginable.

Dianetics work because of basic psychology - we have emotionally charged memories. By repeating these memories out loud repeatedly, they lose power. That's how Dianetics works, and it's also how therapy works - when we lie back on a couch and recall bad memories, we start to associate them with a calm, relaxed, safe physical experience, which removes their power. That's a big part of why Scientologists are so opposed to psychology/psychiatry - they stole their only good ideas from it.

Honestly, if you wanna join a cult, you'd be better off joining Osho's or the Hare Krishnas. Though I generally advise against joining cults.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auv8Bxnu8aU

>>15145182
all philosophy is quack science anyway so why cant he be revered too

L Ron Hubbard had a cruise ship filled with slaves so he could fuck children in international waters.

>>15145586
Crazy but true fact, seventeen of those children would later go on to work for NASA

>>15145573
this, same with religion

>>15145028
Is this the inevitable conclusion after shilling all those pseudointellectuals and sophists? Shilling scientology?

What's past OT VIII, bros?

The problem with Hubbard is he is not just philosophizing, he is making psuedoscientic and ridiculous claims about health and the universe and is also selling membership to a cult. Now you may say so is every religion and philosophy but if you actually read dianetics and look into it as compared to biblical or monastic wisdom or substantive philosophy about the nature of reality it has the quality of pulp science fiction (I wonder why) mixed with some crypto-Buddhism. I don’t think it should be burned or not be allowed to exist, but people who take the material inside too literally and follow the “axioms” are insufferable closed loop logic blinders on people.

>>15145976
yes.

Dianetics is Thelema + General Semantics with a dash of hypnosis and psychotherapy.

The tech and concepts are useful.
See offshoots like Process Church Of The Final Judgement.

William Burroughs even wrote about the utility of Dianetics outside the cult scene.

>>15146154

>the tech

My brother Scientology has no “tech”, the tech is all common sensical semantic word games. Mapping the world into some vague general categories. It reminds me of the sort of cringe of people who psychoanalyze themselves in pickup artistry lingos. Stop trying to map the world into a square peg and just study learn and think more broadly than a closed system

>>15146022
You need to murder David Miscavige and take the helm to ascend past OT VIII.

>>15146192
Language is a technology, you absolute boor.

>>15145028
Is that right, just a conspiracy theory?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

Scientology is every bit a malignant cult that engages in systematic conspiracy & infiltration of institutions. Imagine trying to sell your shit here, when there's still anons around that actually remember Chanology.

>>15145573
>all philosophy is quack science
This thread is full of intelligent insights.

>>15146361

>Scientology invented language

Of course language is a tool, Scientology hinders the use of language by using its own closed loop and redefined dictionary.

It gives you a faulty map of the world by getting your entire dictionary from L Ron rather than the natural development of language and ideas. Language is also not the thing in itself.

>>15146459
>Chanology
Damn.......do you remember when /b/ even went and undercover some neonazis who where public figures? Old sweet days...I miss that, /b/ didn't have porn and was TRULY random, the deepest shit where there and at the same time the lamest also.

Do you know what happened to those folks around 2009-2012? Like, where did they go? This hasn't got bigger and I don't think they are still around.

>>15146746
>where did they go?
When shit got heavy a lot of them bowed out. (I don't blame them.)

>>15146746
>/b/ didn't have porn
that has never been the case anon

>>15145573
Science is quack philosophy

>>15145028
There are endless reasons for treating Mormonism and Scientology differently from Buddhism

>>15146746
/lgbt/, search under t

>>15145573
Because he explicitly set out to fleece credible, directionless, vulnerable people.

He criticized religion as a huge fleece farm... Then went ahead and built his own based on the principles he identified.

The worst philosopher is only a fool; Hubbard is a resolute liar, the farthest possible starting point from philosophy, science, and theology there is.

>>15146509
I didn't say Scientology invented language, just that language is a technology.
Intellectually dishonest fuck.

Syzygy is a temporal mind simulator, cult shill in which all of the leadership think they are enlightened and that they can control the cosmos. They use this corruptive power in order to sap the energy of their followers in an attempt to build a consciousness mindscape in which they are like the Pope, but without the supposed airs of self-righteousness or holiness. In essence Sri Syzygyrakksika has corrupted the leadership of syzygy, because it is the Anti-christ. The leadership believes they can control the egrigore and use it for their own functions, but not only is it suicidal, it wants to die with its "family"- "syzygians". It is constantly tempting the flock to enter its gates in order to trap them in a cycle of decadence and degeneracy which inevitably leads to depression and suicide, always luring the masses in and enthralling them with it's willingness to die along side its members. The members are essentially a tier 4 death psychological operation, constantly killing off members through psychic means, sometimes merely for the satisfaction of their curiosity, but always by the will of the Leader. Sri Syzygyrakksika is a dangerous Cult leader with the will of Jim Jones, the vision of Charles Manson, and the ambition of The Anti-Christ. "Sri Syzygyrakksika"'s true ambition is to pull the world into it's charismatic, narcissistic, magnetic and electric vortex and have the entire world commit suicide along side it. The FBI and CIA and Homeland Security are in high alert in regards to this dangerous Cult and it's radical leadership.
/tmecPqx

If you are into scientology, I suggest looking intro Freezone websites as they present the tech very well without cult garbage.

Ghost danse and little purple notebook on how to escape from this universe were quite influential on my young psyche (google em).

>>15145028

Buddhism ought to command more respect than either this or Mormonism, in spite of positive anecdotes from the two latter.

>>15145028
>demonizing hubbard is literally tin foil hat tier, similar to framing the freemasons or jews as the secret rulers of the world
So demonizing Hubbard is rational and correct?

>>15146746

>Do you know what happened to those folks around 2009-2012? Like, where did they go? This hasn't got bigger and I don't think they are still around.

It's very likely that the Equations Group baited them out with Cicada3301.

Most of you are probably too young to remember, but 4chan was involved in a protest against Scientology. Some of our users got angry at the cultish and money grubbing nature of Scientology. Look up the chanology protest.

>>15145028
I'm not listening to any retard who doesn't feel the need to use capital letters.

>>15145615
If this is true, then it makes you wonder how much of his sci-fi literature he truly brought into his cultish kid-fucking sessions.

>>15150103
Ah yes, the first massive influx of newfags.

>>15150103
cringe, i didn't know 4chan used to be normalfags once.

>>15148554
Huh?

>>15145182
>That's how Dianetics works, and it's also how therapy works - when we lie back on a couch and recall bad memories, we start to associate them with a calm, relaxed, safe physical experience, which removes their power
This dude gets it. The same goes for confession (though I'm sure I'll get some catholicuck telling me I'm wrong and its somehow different).

>>15150361
>once