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Alberto Laiseca was an Argentinian author who wrote many novels and short stories largely underappreciated in his own language and completely untranslated in English. About his mammoth 1340 page novel Los Sorias Ricardo Piglia said "The Sorias is the best novel that has been written in Argentina since The Seven Madmen".
Resoursces :
>A TV program in which he narrated classic tales of horror
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLADDDF2898704C7C8
>English reviews of Laisecas works on the blog The Untranslated
>https://theuntranslated.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/the-sorias-los-sorias-by-alberto-laiseca/
>https://theuntranslated.wordpress.com/2017/08/04/bludgeoning-dwarfs-to-death-matando-enanos-a-garrotazos-by-alberto-laiseca/
>The story My Father's Head translated into English by anon
>https://pastebin.com/Z7Jq0Dbc
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>>15126531

>> No.15131106

>>15129387
Don't let this die, you cunts!

>> No.15131141

>>15129387
Translate him for us then opie

>> No.15131142

>>15129387
Sup, I'm the anon that translated the story. Imma post some poems to see wat up.

>> No.15131149

>>15129387
The Big Wall

It is not their habit,
but the yellow heron spread its wings and started a night flight last night.

It is not frequent in China;
but sometimes it happens that someone disarms the Great Wall
so that the heart is exposed
and can love again.

Yuan Ho. Han Dynasty.

>> No.15131150

>>15131106
>>15131142
I thought that no one would reply .
I realy hope that this kicks off .

>> No.15131160

>>15129387
Miniature Landscape Arrangements

I take a handful of dirt and make those who look believe,
that it is a mountain.
She takes a carved cup, filled with water,
and turns it into a river.
Yesterday I saw her
and we agreed to transform something between the two
to outwit the Six Demons of the desert.

Ho Yuan Chen. Legendary Dynasty.

>> No.15131164

>>15131150
I don't speak Spanish particularly well but with the help of a dictionary I might be able to contribute. What is yet to be translated?

>> No.15131171

>>15129387
King Ch'in burns books and builds walls

King Ch'in burns books and builds walls;
but the snow of the four mountains has not yet melted,
despite the summer.
King Ch'in carries a piece of jade from birth;
but among the cane fields a woman has given birth.
King Ch'in has written History, in fine characters,
on rice paper;
but Confucius said, "I hate the color purple
because it is confused with the color red. "
Emperors Yao and Shun smile.

Yen Ts'anglang. Ch'i dynasty.

>> No.15131187

>>15129387
The memory of your smile

The dew increases the weight of my robe.
The dream dances away from me
ignoring the entrance proposed by my eyes.
However I need to rest tonight,
because tomorrow I'll have to cross that desert of bamboo made of sand.

I have almost no water,
but the memory of your smile
can change despair and destiny.

Cho Tang. Chin dynasty.

>> No.15131195

>>15129387
Floating Farewell

Eleven years ago you left.
No one touches that red painted lute
but I still hear his floating farewell.
The horses passed yesterday in front of the house where I live;
however, the coral still clinks on my table.
The afternoon is not over
and the peasant is still bent on the paddy field.
Not even the most severe discipline managed to disperse the morning mist,
that I keep in the hollow of my hand.

Yang Ch'eng. T'ang dynasty.

>> No.15131202

>>15131142
>>15131149
>>15131160
>>15131171
>>15131187
>>15131195
Aet I translated 5 poems from his book of verses 'Chinese Poems'.

Hope you like'em /lit/

>> No.15131223

>>15131202
They are all so weird anon .
Thank you

>> No.15131240

>>15131202
Thank you kind anon, you rock.
Beautiful poems, now I really really wanna read him!

>> No.15131248

>>15129387
OMG guys
The last book he wrote is a surreal adventure about the Vietnam War.
Now I'm more interested.

>> No.15131261

>>15131248
The publisher on the book review: "When he was young he volunteered himself to fight on the Vietnam War but was declared 'mentally unstable' and coudn't go".
hahahahahah MEGABASED.

>> No.15131271

>>15131248
It peaked my interest too but couldnt find it online nowhere

>> No.15131313

>>15131248
>>15131261
>>15131271
If this post gets 12 replies, I'll translate the first page of the novel.

>> No.15131335

>>15131313
DO IT YOU CRAZY FUCKER

>> No.15131349

>>15131313
i like your digits,but i doubt that you have a copy.

>> No.15131369

>>15131313
Do It do it

>> No.15131372

>>15131313
why you dont do los sorias first two pages ?

>> No.15131382

>>15131313
>131313
BASED 131313 OF TRUTH, PLEASE TRANSLATE IT!

>> No.15131390

>>15129387
Hey anon, I was in the other Laiseca thread, I really enjoyed "La cabeza de mi padre". Do you have more?

>> No.15131401

>>15131390
Another anon described an amazing short story of him he read a time ago.

>> No.15131552

Another short story i found on the internet by Leiseca .Sadly i know only Greek English and German and i cant translate .
https://bibliotecaignoria.blogspot.com/2019/06/alberto-laiseca-el-jardin-de-los.html

>> No.15131577

>>15131142
Why do argies talk like niggers even in English?

>> No.15131620

>>15131577
im not argie and im white as milk, kek

>> No.15131701

The Beginning of Los Sorias in italian
https://www.perleecicatrici.org/2020/01/07/i-nemici-di-stanza/#more-968

>> No.15131803

>>15131401
That one about the elder couple who lose their farm and has to move? I got curious about this story. Can someone translate it? Or at least tell me what's its name?

>> No.15131932

>>15129387
Argie literature is TRASH

Read Chilean and Colombian.

>> No.15132465
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>>15131803

>> No.15132804

>>15131932
im Colombian nigga, tell me, which authors from my country should lit read??

>> No.15132819

>>15131620
Wigger

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>>15131313
dewit

>> No.15132846

>>15131313
Maybe we could subtitle the series
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyk4HG01Up4

>> No.15132935

I would really love to tackle this, I'm studying to become a translator and I'll try to do the first few pages of Los Sorias

>> No.15132980

>>15132935
If you want to talk to someone tell me so we could arange a way of comunication .
I will be making threads on Laiseca and i will not let this die.

>> No.15133013

>>15131701
PIZZA MACARRONI CALZONE
MAMMA MIA!

>> No.15133019

>>15132980
Well I'm only on 3rd year so I might fuck everything up, how's this for the first few words?
>The very first thing Iseka Character saw that morning as he opened his eyes was a Soria. It wasn't Luis, who was close, but the one further: Juan Carlos Soria

>> No.15133048

>>15133019
It is more than serviceable.I would appericiate it if you continued.

>> No.15133060

>>15133048
Thanks, I'll keep working on it and try to post it here

>> No.15133394

>>15131313
Go right ahead.

>> No.15133645

I made a list of all of the short stories that Alberto Laiseca covered in his TV program, I hope this small contribution helps with the project.

https://pastebin.com/59UXmfaS

>> No.15133685

>>15133645
That's great anon keep up the good work
If there is anyone who can make a discord server that would make things a lot easier

>> No.15134057

>>15131313
vamos

>> No.15134155

>>15133645
damn anon, thx a lot!
I downloaded all of setogenicos vids, they were 106
so i'm missing a lot

>> No.15134181

>>15133685
I have all of the "Cuentos de Terror" episodes in mp4, m4a and some of them in ogg, I can upload all of them to MEGA next week if you all are interested, but first I must sort and rename all of the files because I have lots of duplicates and bad quality files, so please anons, give me some time to sort them all.

Note: I'm not from Argentina so I'm not that familiarized with Laiseca's TV Program, I knew this TV show past year thanks to a Youtuber, so I don't think this list is the definitive, I found most of the "Cuentos de Terror" episodes on Youtube, Dailymotion and audio sites like iVoox.

>> No.15134228

>>15134181
Great anon i will be here waiting

>> No.15134384

>>15134181
thank u very much, ill wait for your mega link!

>> No.15135533

>>15131313
senpai has noticed you
https://twitter.com/TheUntranslated/status/1251572520316276736?s=20

>> No.15135789

>>15131313
dew it

>> No.15135798

>>15131313
checked

>> No.15135799

>>15131313
Do it.

>> No.15135813

>>15131313

>> No.15135837

>>15135533
>he didn't include my reply
>me, the first guy to suggest a self-made translation
Prove that the loudest gets the laugh :'(

>> No.15135853

>>15135837
Proof*

>> No.15135959

>>15131313
do it faggot

>> No.15136080

>>15129387
>learn French
>every interesting untranslated author is either Italian or Hispanic
why

>> No.15136107

>>15136080
this but German for me

>> No.15136126

>>15136107
kek German is the language I've now begun to take up. oh well

>> No.15136176

>>15135533

not the guy you're responding to, but I emailed the untranslated once a few years ago with a few questions I had for him. Lovely, lovely man. I've been meaning to email him again but haven't got around to it. I made the reddit thread about his blog when he announced the closure of his blog. I hope he does a surprise post on his blog once a year or something, they wouldn't even have to be big reviews, just an reference of foreign books he'd recommend if they were translated.

I wish him the best, and I hope this board doesn't assail his twitter with DMs or anything. he's a genuinely nice guy with a love for literature, and he deserves our respect for everything he did as the untranslated.

>> No.15136200

>>15136176
He surely gave some publicity to all of those great unknown novels.It just makes me sad to think that he stopped writting on his blog.
Well at least there is his twitter account.

>> No.15136488

>>15132465
Yep, it was this post I was referring to. But don't anymore have a name? I wanna google it.

>> No.15137045

I'm >>15131313

If this blessed thread is up tomorrow, I'll post it. And maybe some other story or poem.
What do you want me to translate?

>> No.15138266

>>15137045
I will be making threads

>> No.15138316

>>15137045
Los Sorias fist pages or any short story realy from Matando enanos a garrotazos

>> No.15139042

A movie called Darling, I’ll be going for cigarettes and will be back ,where Laiseca plays
based on a story Laiseca wrote .
Here is the link and below the subtitles
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4fW7B5jkKE
>http://www.opensubtitles.org/pt/subtitles/4470543/querida-voy-a-comprar-cigarrillos-y

>> No.15140369

>>15137045
Sup, I'm >>15131313
I'll post the first page of Los Sorias in an hour.
Grab your popcorn.

>> No.15140377

>>15140369
yeah baby

>> No.15140418

>>15140369
LOS SORIAS

To César Margini, who is for me what
Oscar Wilde called the critic as an artist
Alberto Laiseca
"The world is sustained only by
Four things; the science of the wise,
the justice of the great
the prayer of the righteous
and the courage of the brave »

Almanzor [1]

>> No.15140427

>>15140418
Sorry:

To César Margini, who is for me what
Oscar Wilde called the critic as an artist
Alberto Laiseca

"The world is sustained only by
Four things; the science of the wise,
the justice of the great
the prayer of the righteous
and the courage of the brave »

Almanzor [1]

>> No.15140567

>>15140427
CHAPTER 1

---The room enemies---

When that morning Personaje Iseka opened his eyes, the first thing he saw was a Soria. But not Luis, the one who was close, but the most distant: Juan Carlos Soria.

«This Soria, when he gets up in the morning —Iseka thought—, he does it in the form of a master class, without colloquium, the kind used in the faculties in the past. Optimistic, one jump. I do not. I take as many minutes as I can: very lazy in bed.

He creates all the inertias forward, necessary to start the day. Uses as a bugle and music, respectively, the yogurt and the breaths. It is only when he wakes up from his nap that he lets us down. A kind of paper down jacket has been built so that the light does not prevent him from sleeping. I said that after the nap he disappoints. In fact: he no longer jumps up but, at that moment, with his eye cover over his tow hair, he looks like a defeated tufa chief on the way to reduction or reserve.

He gives me advice».

>> No.15140571

>>15129387

Buen provecho!

>> No.15140577

>>15140567
When Iseka started to wake up, in the interval between the Soria and unconsciousness he saw, as through a kaleidoscope, the whole process and its ebbs, with twists and turns: unconsciousness, subconsciousness, walls of the room, Soria; and vice versa: Soria, walls of the piece, descent into the interior, until almost falling into the deepest subliminal abysses. Thus, in his chaotic mix of wakefulness and sleep, he was able to observe:

Batrachians with yellow backs / cathedrals with gray stained glass windows / central concentrations of material / peripheral concentrations / a rowdy fly that bounced a thousand times on the mirror moon belonging to the wardrobe of the piece.

A filthy edge of the same wardrobe to share.

Iseka's half-veiled eyes traveled to the left and down, touched the wall and, as his head accompanied the movement of the eyes, obliging them, they continued in free fall until they reached the farthest of the two Soria. His vision, then, singed back into oblivion of sleep, like the horn of a snail touching a red-hot iron.

«A guy is going to dig up someone and invites me to follow him. We take out a coffin that has others, successive ones, as chinese boxes. Each cover has strange drawings reminiscent of voodoo. We ripped the last one, extracting from the final sarcophagus a living man, of bronze, who writhes between his bonds».

>> No.15140579
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Are you ready for more Los Soria?

>> No.15140583

>>15140577
The other horn of the snail —the eyelids were once more parted in a repeated attempt to reach consciousness— touched the face of the nearest Soria and, as it also burned, fell back in disorder to sleep.

«He does not make a single sound, but the bronze man's face denotes that, for the moment at least, he has gone mad with pain. His phallus, large and erect, is tied to his belly — by ropes, like everything else— so tightly that the cords must do him enormous damage.» / rocket planes / red-headed flies / great planes of black dream color / glazed batrachians / flowers in liquid air / stone plateaus / elemental jewels / the face of the one I still love despite the Goddess of the Abyss / earthquakes / nucleus decay.

As the snail no longer had eyes at the tip of its horns, it was moved, similar to an earth tremor, to wake up despite the Soria.

And Iseka woke up.

>> No.15140592

>>15140579
fuck off kiddo

>> No.15140595

>>15140571
Also this is a fantastic thread, I've been watching Laiseca's narrations on youtube & hadn't realised he was a celebrated author in his own right.

On a similar note (relevant to Argentian lit) this documentary (which sadly is only in Spanish) is fantastic lit-core: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDYhuLyHVLg

>> No.15140600

>>15140592
nah

>> No.15140715

>>15140583
Thanks anon

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>> No.15140844

>>15140832
yeah, I corrected those errors on my translation, besides I'm no pro, if you want to give it a go, do it