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15106434 No.15106434 [Reply] [Original]

Should we aspire to be like Jay Gatsby?

>> No.15106444

>>15106434
No, obviously. He was a giant simp and he got shot for it. Did you not read the book?

>> No.15106452

>>15106434

What, dead in a swimming pool?

>> No.15106456

>>15106444
>simp
Stop using zoomer tier words

>> No.15106466

>>15106456
Simp is a great word, I like using it.

>> No.15106732

He seemed like a cool dude, besides the whole living in the past thing. Really, if that's your hamartia, you could be doing a lot worse.

>> No.15106745

lol this book is overhyped garbage

>> No.15106817
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>>15106745
>lol this book is overhyped garbage

>> No.15106883

No idiot

>> No.15106934

I think the biggest weakness of the book is that Daisy is so annoying. She needed to be just a bit more attractive, so we could sympathize with Gatsby's obsession.

>> No.15106996

>>15106934
Art imitating life. His wife was a psycho in real life, but Fitzgerald was obsessed with her. In his head Daisy probably did have an attractive personality.

>> No.15107081

>>15106745
This. I hated it but Americans always insist on its value. Maybe you have to be American to get it, but that’s probably not even right because Fitzgerald’s contemporaries hates it too— well then maybe you have to be an American indoctrinated by the American public school system where this is taught to like it.

>> No.15107091

>>15106434
Gatsby is one of the most pathetic characters in american lit. Why in the world would you want to be like him?

>> No.15107101

>>15106466
It's not applicable in this. He was actually sleeping with her.

>> No.15107111

>>15107101
You can be a simp and still be fucking. This is why it's a great word. Cucks, thirsty incels, whipped guys, general beta males - they're all simps.

>> No.15107116

>>15107091
You're reading it too superficially.

>> No.15107117

>>15107101
Yeah but he literally committed his entire life to her, that’s not just a simp that’s a simp supreme

>> No.15107138

>>15106817
Hard agree.

>> No.15107141

>>15106934
That's the point, he wanted to make her human. He was trying to recapture the time in his life before the war in addition to how he felt with Daisy. Ultimately, he died and it didn't matter, but he spent his life pursuing the past and some previous state of himself which is somewhat admirable, as opposed to someone like Buchanan who just exists with no intuition. The hero of the book is Nick, because he observed it all and then still acted in spite of it: going back to the midwest. Read Schopenhauer.

>>15106466
agreed

>>15107081
No Hemingway loved it. It's a great book, you didn't even say anything other than "I think." Go back to goodreads

>> No.15107428

>>15106434
i think we should aspire to be like tom ripley. fuck rich people.

>> No.15107442

>>15106456
stop policing fucking words
it's like caring about what brand of shoes you have

>> No.15107450

>>15106434
the whole point was that he never made it

>> No.15107477

>>15107442
What are those?

>> No.15107502

>>15107442
Simp really is a zoomer-tier insult though, just call people faggot or cuck or something.

>> No.15107967

Fuck Gatsby. If you're going to be infatuated, be Werther. If you want to be a mysterious simp over a girl who's taken, be Heathcliff.

>> No.15109276

>>15106434
Did you read the book?
>>15106444
/thread
>>15106452
stupid BoJack fanfic derivative horseshit book

>> No.15110446

>>15106434
I think you mean Tom Buchanon.

>> No.15111367

does the book portray the rich guys as insufferable like the movie?

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>>15106434
No man is a man who is not destroyed by his dream.

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>>15106444
Fpbp and checked!

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>>15106456
I like it when children use this kind of retard parlance because it means I can stop reading their post and disregard them immediately. It's an effective tool at outing poor quality contributions.

>> No.15112279

>>15106456
Better than cuck desu