/lit/ - Literature

Manufacturing Consent, written before Chumpsky became a tool for the elite

>>15088123
how many alt right grifters do you have to read/watch before coming to the take that Chomsky is a tool for the elite?

seriously asking

>>15088142
He praised the Khmer Rouge

>>15088142
he works at fucking MIT, you think that's not elite?

If you think manufacturing consent is a little intimidating I'd suggest
>on anarchy
>profit over people
>understanding power

>>15088142
>STOP ATTACKING MY TENURED ACADEMIC UNDERDOG

>>15088151
>Khmer Rouge

Not quite, you're part of the reason the internet is such shit. A fool who falls into fallacies and doesn't think for himself.


On June 6, 1977, Noam Chomsky and Edward S. Herman published an article in The Nation which contrasted the views expressed in books by Barron and Paul, Ponchaud, and Porter and Hildebrand, and in articles and accounts by Butterfield, Bragg, Kahin, Cazaux, Shanberg, Tolgraven and others. Their conclusion was: "We do not pretend to know where the truth lies amidst these sharply conflicting assessments; rather, we again want to emphasize some crucial points. What filters through to the American public is a seriously distorted version of the evidence available, emphasizing alleged Khmer Rouge atrocities and downplaying or ignoring the crucial U.S. role, direct and indirect, in the torment that Cambodia has suffered."[17]

Chomsky and Herman noted the conflicting information in the various accounts, and suggested that after the "failure of the American effort to subdue South Vietnam and to crush the mass movements elsewhere in Indochina" there was now "a campaign to reconstruct the history of these years so as to place the role of the United States in a more favorable light". This rewriting of history by the establishment press was served well by "tales of Communist atrocities, which not only prove the evils of communism but undermine the credibility of those who opposed the war and might interfere with future crusades for freedom." They wrote that the refugee stories of Khmer Rouge atrocities should be treated with great "care and caution" because "refugees are frightened and defenseless, at the mercy of alien forces. They naturally tend to report what they believe their interlocuters wish to hear."[17]

>>15088114
Lul at all you non-lingfags. Chomsky said one thing of note over 50 years ago and has been a dud since.

Also, funcionalist syntax > formalist bullshit.

>>15089737
Is there some popish book on chomsky vs skinner like that?

The absolute madLAD

>reading old dead white men

>>15089754
Dunno, not that into L1 acquisition. Generative Grammar is just mostly retarded especially with non-indoeuropean languages.

He also shits on corpus linguistics because he thought it was a "waste of time." Not many contemporary linguists take him seriously nowadays.

>>15089849
He is not dead yet, though he looks like death now.

>>15088114
Always wanted to get into Chomsky, but dont know where to begin since he likes having an opinion on literally anything. What are his works that have actual technical merit?

>>15089580
yeah he praised them and downplayed their atrocities. just like they all did with the USSR

Looking back, Chomskys social-economic views look dated. They were pertinent in a pre-internet world, the dynamics have changed a lot.

>>15089849
>still works at a university
hell be fine

>>15089882
Sure but I mean as an historical event it was important. I can't find one book on the disposal of nurture by nature. It was huge paradigm up until the 80s. I don't know any book that covers that ideological battle

>>15089912
His early stuff on transformational syntax is ok like 'Syntactic Structures.' If you read his publications throughout the years, you'll notice that he has walked back alot of his early claims.

His contribution is that he invigorated interest from others in proving him wrong which helped galvanize linguistic research.

>>15088114
You don’t

>>15088114
by reading parenti instead
starting with inventing reality so you can see where chomsky stole manufacturing consent from

>>15088114
here

Understanding Power: The Indispensible Chomsky

>>15088123
My gay atheist socialist non-white friend loves this book

>>15090150
i dont really understand what our culture is anymore

>>15088114
Prefably you don't

>>15089925
False.

I would suggest you start with Manufacturing Consent, a critique of the mainstream media, or Hegemony or Survival, an account of US foreign policy. Not a controversial opinion, incidentally, a common sense consensus, and one that I'm not surprised to see.

>>15088163
these are good suggestions

>>15088114
How The World Works is kind of light and broadstrokes but it is a good introduction to his general views on global politics.

How do people get so butt hurt over Noam? His views just seem so common sense

>>15088114
nowhere
he's got nothing of value

>>15092024
Yea, whats worse is that it feels ironic, since hes jewish and lives in America.