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15087583 No.15087583 [Reply] [Original]

Is Moby Dick really an example of "queer literature".
I understand that Queequeg and Ishmael were pretty close and that there was an awkward scene where the crew were enjoying squeezing lumps out of the spermaceti oil.......but is it really faggotry?

>> No.15087596
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>>15087583
it never came off as gay to me

stop faggifying everything i like reeeeeee

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>>15087583
There's some mild homo eroticism but what people fail to see is this: throughout most of history it was acceptable for men to have a strong fraternal bond with other men without being though of as gay. This bond included physical affection and love (possibly romantic), however it did NOT include sex. It wasn't really a big deal, just bros being bros. Then a few decades ago faggots invaded universities and invented some faggot kike nonsense called "queer theory", which basically means that you put on a rainbow colored set of faggot glasses that make you interpret the entire western canon as being about faggots and faggotry.

So no. Moby Dick isn't queer literature. It's just a story about couple of homies trying to kill a whale + some philosophy.

>> No.15087652

Nope, seamen are just really tight. Guys in the army are the same way, massive faggots. Spend three years on a boat and some gay shit is bound to happen.

You could give MD a strictly homosexual reading and probably build a solid case, but the interpretation depends on your relationship with author intent and will make people look at you funny while you rant about why Melvilles was actually a shaved-head queer queen icon.

>> No.15087674

>>15087583
It could be gay or not gay or sort of gay, it's really completely irrelevant to Moby DIck in general

>> No.15087679

>>15087583
nah, it's a fad interpretation style
definitely intimate though.

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Whales are phallic symbols.

>> No.15087736

>>15087652
Melville tried to fuck hawthorne

>> No.15087753

>>15087736
No he didnt

>> No.15087788

>>15087646
Man I wish it was still socially acceptable to cuddle with your bros. I want to feel their strong, masculine bodies against mine and gently caress them but in a non faggy way.

>> No.15087817

>>15087788
>gently caress them

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What a delightful world we live in!
Thank you Frankfort School...

>> No.15087873

behead those who despoil Melville

>> No.15087891

>>15087847
Glad you're so well acquainted with the Frankfurt school.
Of course, Marcuse, Fromm, Adorno, Horkheimer etc were well known for weeding out the homosexual subtext of classical works of the literary canon.

>> No.15088537

>>15087646
>>15087652
just cus it was more accepted doesnt mean its not still gay

>> No.15088543

>>15088537
smooth brain with no reading comprehension

>> No.15088616

>>15087583
The invention of the gay rights movement killed so much of the beauty of being queer to begin with. Think of all that has been given up for the right to have health benefits for your “partner”.

I’d rather get cheated by some parsimonious Quaker just to have the luxury of working with men, seeing men, and staring at dick all day even if I can’t touch and maybe just maybe if I’m lucky sucking or jerking off some sailor in a quiet corner of the ship. No reciprocation and no bullshit labels of straight and gay and no politics or rights...just a shared moment. That’s what it means to be a virtuous homosexual.

Melville might have had this moment or maybe knew of it, and God it must have been so sweet!

>> No.15088700

>>15087583
There's some homoeroticism but it's not a main theme of the book. Ishmael's "marriage" to Queeqeug is played for laughs, and the sperm-squeezing scene is a scatological double-entendre like the whale penis chapter. Anyone who considers Moby-Dick to be a "queer text" is blowing these sections out of proportion because they're too retarded to see anything other than sexual themes in a book. It's the equivalent of saying Moby-Dick is a nonfiction book about whale biology because of the cetology chapters.