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Do you like Carlyle?

>> No.15076638
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>>15076376
Maybe.

>> No.15076658

>>15076376
where to start with this nigga?

>> No.15076664

>>15076638
p r o j e c t i o n

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>>15076376
Yeah, but what was his tax policy?

>> No.15076685

>>15076658
Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question

>> No.15076713

>>15076685
What are his conclusions?
If they are in favour of slavery, then I might be interested

>> No.15076720

>>15076713
He's in favor of White supremacy.

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>>15076720
I'm liking this Carlyle feller more by the minute

>> No.15076758

>>15076664
Have you read about his super passive aggressive and maybe not sexual relationship with his lesbian wife?

>> No.15077045

>>15076376

He's good at what he does, but he's too obsessive and peculiar to be an all-time great, as Moldbug suggests.

>> No.15077059

>>15076376
Even Nietzsche thought his prose style was wack and a bit much.

>> No.15077065

>>15077045
source?
>>15077059
source?

>> No.15077260

>>15077065

Source for what? Moldbug praising him? One of the posts in Unqualified Reservations is all about him.

>> No.15077267

>>15077059
>Even Nietzsche thought his prose style was wack and a bit much.
cool, didn't know that. carlyle really is too "showy"

>> No.15077349

>>15077065
beyond good and evil. don't forget to read books, sweaty

>> No.15077369

>>15077059
>nietzsche
>criticizing others prose

>> No.15077374

>>15077349
I'm not reading every Nietzsche book like you

>> No.15077379

>>15077369

Nietzsche's prose, like his moustache, is undeniably great. He's one of the few writers who can use the German language with a light touch.

>> No.15077748

>>15077379
Actually applies to Freud as well in German who doesn't fare near so well in English as N. Jung and Schopenhauer are better in English than in their native tongues.

>> No.15078520

>>15076672
He's such a colossal faggot

>> No.15078568

>>15076672
I liked his writings until I saw this picture.

>> No.15078574
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>both rejected modernity as artificial and degenerate for more or less the same reasons
>the everlasting yea vs the aristocratic affirmation
>both rejected system-based experiences and understandings of the world
>both had a focus on strong individualism and appreciation of "great-men"
>both emphasised the importance of moral self-direction specifically in relation to power
>had similar views on war
>both absolutist in action of belief

>"Carlyle, a man of strong words and attitudes, a rhetorician by necessity, who seems ever to be tormented by the desire of finding some kind of strong faith, and by his inability to do so (in this respect a true Romanticist!). To yearn for a strong faith is not the proof of a strong faith, but rather the reverse. if a man have a strong faith he can indulge in the luxury of scepticism; he is strong enough, firm enough, well-knit enough for such a luxury. Carlyle stupifies something in himself by means of the fortissimo of his reverence for men of a strong faith, and his rage over those who are less foolish: he is in sore need of noise. An attitude of constant and passionate dishonesty against himself – this is his proprium; by virtue of this he is and remains interesting."
- Nietzsche

>"Nietzsche was able to see Carlyle’s passionate dishonesty against himself, but never admitted to his own."

>> No.15078592

>>15078574
It's amazing how many people Nietzsche ripped off.

>> No.15078593

>>15078574
Every time a little excerpt by Nietzsche pops up I'm amazed at how well this guy could write, even if it's translated. I always end up looking up the original German and while I'm nowhere near fluent, he writes in such a clear and distinct way you know exactly what he means.