/lit/ - Literature

i don't know the guy
does anybody besides middle age post-depression white guys read Mark Fisher?

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>>15075242
Nobody. It’s mostly just hack academics engaging in masturbatory philosophising

>>15075242
Sargon, Metokur, Milos, JBP

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>>15075436
indisputably based

Plant, Fisher, Dugin, Land, Moldbug, Bannon, Taleb, Zizek, Armond White, Cernovich, Piketty, Sarkeesian,

Not Fisher.

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>>15075457
Cernovich is the dumbest human being alive.

>>15075242
Nyx "Hyper-PBUH" Land.

>>15075485
Based bear

Fisher
Jameson
Zizek
Some ecology guys probably, like Næss or Zapffe
Then sine feminist like Butler or whatever

I dont necesarrily agree with any og these, but they sum up all or most popular movements these days.

I know it's a shitposting thread, but I've now read both capitalist realism and ghosts of my life now, and while his thesis for both of these books are brilliant, the subsequent execution in the last 80% of both books seems sorely lacking, ghosts of my life more so. Both being based off his blog, it seems he cobbled together his posts over time and only in hindsight found a running theme among them. If I wanted a non-musician to lecture me about Joy Division I would just go shitpost on /mu/. I'd love to see more fleshed out, less anecdotal evidence of these theories. He didn't even widen the topics in which he applied his theories. It was mostly music and a movie or two. Hauntology and CR are both seen in droves in things that aren't just the few mediums of media he dedicated his life to feeling sad about.

>>15075556
hyper-pbuh

This thread is a great reminder I don't keep up on contemporary thought enough.

If I had to pick a few I think are important...

HOUELLEBECQ
PIKETTY
SCHEIDEL

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Slavoj Zizek
Mark Fisher
Nick Land
Alexander Dugin
Michel Houllebecq

>>15076023
And contrapoints

Zizek, Peterson (?)

Kazcynski

>>15075242
Awful fucking lists so far. It looks more like:

Sloterdijk, Land, Moten, Meillassoux, Latour, Wilderson III, and Lingis

lmao @ accfags.

>>15076116
How many times are you going to post?

>>15075605
>Zappfe

Wish he was translated, sounds very interesting

>>15076124
You may or may not be a paranoid schizo

>>15075556
That poor woman
https://youtu.be/1_U55RTlK8o

https://thebestschools.org/features/most-influential-living-philosophers/
Sloterdjk and Agamben not included, might be an anglocentric list. Includes Nussbaum but not her friend Sen, unfair.

>>15076116
nobody knows or cares about these. tiktok teenagers have more influence than every modern philosopher alive combined

>>15076144
>accfag posts predictable response
Woah

>>15076116
where to start with latour?

john zerzan

Yuval Hari Noah because even normies read and are influenced by him

Nick Land, Mencius Moldbug, Donna Haraway, Amy Ireland, Reza Negarestani, Justin Murphy, N1x Land, xenosystems

>>15075242
RIP John Balance

>>15077104
Can't even tell if this is ironic or not

>>15075649
>If I wanted a non-musician to lecture me about Joy Division
Why would a musician be any different than a non musician for this. By the way, fun fact, they could barely play their instruments when they first started.

Not Zizek. Everything he says today comes straight from his 20th century work

>>15075408
Only Millenials and Zoomers read Mark Fisher

>>15077233
>Only Millenials and Zoomers read Mark Fisher
So the people who are actually going to have the most meaningful impact on the early 21st century.

>>15077214
I believe that when being a critic of a given medium one should know how to create within that medium. It's easy to tell when non-musicians or non-artists don't have the vocabulary or experience when analyzing things. Sometimes they make good points, there are always exceptions to any given rule. But it's hard to take people seriously when it feels like they are making everything up. It's kinda similar to the "the curtains are blue" thing. This is just my personal preference.

>>15075242
he looked like he had a vasectomy

>>15076040
kek!

>>15075242
Does death come alone
Or with eager reinforcements?
Death is centrifugal
Solar and logical
Decadent and symmetrical
Angels are mathematical
Angels are bestial
Man is the animal
Man is the animal
The blacker the sun
The darker the dawn

Post more /lit/ lyrics. I dare you

>>15076138
Oh he isn't? I am Norwegian myself so never looked after a translation. It would probably benefit the Norwegian philosophy community by getting him translated, giving us an opportunity to get on the map.

>>15075649
I'm about halfway through Ghosts of my Life right now and I'm having the exact same problem. Would've rather had a general focus on how hauntology operates currently in culture than in the 1970s

>>15075428
This.

>>15075605
I’ll concede that these are serious 21st Century thinkers but they all just seem so small and narrow or hyper-specific compared to what came before. If I’m being honest, Zizek is the only one quite that small and narrow in my opinion but even he is more pop-philosopher than not.

Has post-modernism rendered philosophy ineffective? It often feels like there’s nothing left to be said.

>>15075242
It depends. The world is so diverse, and populated nowadays.

From my personal context, I don't find most of these guys in the thread. On the other hand, they might still relevant somewhere else.

Anyways, here are some people (thinkers or not) who I find influential to most or a big portion of the world:
>the Pope
>Donald Trump
>China's president
>Jordan Peterson
>Dalai Lama
>Angela Merkel
>Bill Gates

>>15077985
do it!

>>15077233
Accfags really cannot fucking meme.