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15065947 No.15065947 [Reply] [Original]

Argue for dualism or non dualism, whichever you believe.

>> No.15065951

No.

>> No.15065961

>>15065951
Based

>> No.15065962

Do you really think you're making your interest in non-dualism look good by spamming the board

>> No.15065963

There is good television and bad television, this is the basis of my metaphysics

>> No.15066480

>>15065962
Indeed, you think he'd be busy trying to perfect his non-dualistic consciousness.

>> No.15066696

>>15065947
Non-dualism argument: The spirit cannot interact with physical reality unless it is part of physical reality in which case it is not a spirit.

>> No.15066722

>>15065947
I believe in heptacontism, there are fundamentally 70 divisons in the nature of existence

>> No.15066749

>>15065947
Dualism: when you die you go to a spiritual world to await your next incarnation

>> No.15066834

>>15066749
This is a bad argument. Just speculating.

>> No.15066850
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15066850

guenonfag's talking to himself again

>> No.15066904

>>15066850
I see 9 posters and 10 posts in this thread, are you sure it's not just you wanting to lash out at him after letting him live rent-free in your head so much?

>> No.15066919

>>15065947
I agree with both (can I?)

>> No.15066934

>>15066919
You can but one while existing at a certain level has to ultimately be subsumed in the other, both cannot be the ultimate truth simultaneously

>> No.15066938

>>15066834
thats how metaphysics works lol

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>>15066904
>i'll prove i'm not guenonfag by immediately posting in "his" defense

schizo

>> No.15066979

>>15065947
Both are truth

>> No.15066995

>>15066934
Okay I allow dualities exist within the universality but I cling to the latter while understanding the temporal nature of the former?

>> No.15067008
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>>15065947
The universe began from two. Everything, everyone, every concept is a mixture of two first moving and eternal beginnings. Everything is in part a derivative from the Primordial Basedness, and in part of the Primordial Cringe. One would have no meaning without the other. Every time you feel despite in your life, remember that the deeper Cringe our universe plunges into, the grander is the Based potential that we unlock.

>> No.15067010

What's the point in staying alive if nondualism is true?

>> No.15067019

>>15067008
Ahah

>> No.15067020

>>15066938
Metaphysics works by speculation? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Ok then, a giant baby has disguised herself as the cosmos, and we are all her eyelashes.

>> No.15067021

New to lit, can someone give an unbiased explanation of the two. Emphasis on the unbiased.

>> No.15067029

>>15067010
What's the point if dualism is true? Are you implying that dualism means there's a nice heaven for you if you do good things?

>> No.15067047

>>15067010
Because non-dualism typically involves transmigration, i.e. you just go to another life after you die. Actually becoming freed from rebirth by attaining complete union with God requires a dedicated and sustained spiritual practice and the resulting attainments

>> No.15067048

>>15067020
anything other than empiricism is speculation

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>>15067021
Here's a picture with the stances of the major contemporary scholars on the topic.

>> No.15067074

>>15067021
dualism = fundamental difference between God and individual souls
non-dualism = God and the soul are actually identical

and there are also various schools who hold positions at different places on a spectrum between these two views

>> No.15067117

>>15067063
>>15067074
Thanks

>> No.15067176

What is the nondualist take on transhumanism, brain uploading, etc.?

>> No.15067193

Just how based was he? Only the brothers can see this nondual image...


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>> No.15067336

>>15067048
No it isn't. Is mathematics mere "speculation"?

>> No.15067399

>>15067336
can be
have you ever seen a number 1 in the natural world?

>> No.15067513

>>15067048
Have you heard of deduction?

>> No.15067559

>>15067513
aka speculation

>> No.15067597

>>15067559
Deduction uses the fundamental principles of logic. Empiricists got debunked like last century grow up. You can't prove empiricism to be correct without deduction lol

>> No.15067645

>>15067399
Yes. I've seen a singular object. So you can't even into symbols or symbolic logic then? Lol. Opinions entirely disregarded for sophistry.

>> No.15067648

>>15067645
Nice, you btfo him.

>> No.15067723

>>15067048
Yet empiricism becomes speculation by the mere existence of anything other than it

>> No.15067773

>>15067645
have you ever seen 2 exact same objects so you can sum them?

>> No.15068481

>>15067773
>What is a category?
>What are sets?
Amazing post.

>> No.15068581

>>15068481
lol. empiricism bad

>> No.15068624

>>15068581
cope, the post

>> No.15068769

>>15065963
Whats some good tv?