/lit/ - Literature

>>15020167
Ibsen and Pontoppidan

>>15020167
I've only read Ibsen and Hamsun, so Hamsun

>>15020167
Recently read Tarjei Vesaas' Fuglane (I am Norwegian, so was able to appreciate the great nynorsk prose).

I think people on /lit/ would find his stuff absolutely fascinating. A lot of it was painfully relatable to me.

>>15020223
Redpill me on Tarjei Fuck-lane, what makes him so good

Does it translate well into other languages?

>>15020167
Found this book a bit tedious ngl fellas

Soren Kirkegaard

They can write now?

>>15020242
> Fuck-lane
epic meme, anglo. upvoted!

Part of it is probably the language, at least to me. The Norwegian language it is written with (nynorsk/landsmål) is more associated with rural farmers life, especially since it is older. The plot itself is also in a rural farmer village, so it really absorbs you into the world. No idea how well it translates.

However, the plot itself is great. Really psychological (I usually hate using this term to describe literature and art, but this book really is), and lots of symbolic things going on.

What was relatable to me is how it captures being the person which never really can be included in any community because of their personality, as well as the consequences of being that person.

Just read it. It is not that long.

Dan Andersson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KbxzqTyFZ8

Also like Ibsen and Rydberg

i lived a few months in Sweeden, yet I got in absolutely no contact with their literature. Should I have done otherwise? Where could I start?

>>15020341
Not him, I'm norsk but you convinced me to read him. Think we've got a few of his books somewhere in the attic.

>>15020289
Mysteries is actually his real masterpiece. Then again hunger isn't tedious at all so you might not be cut out for it.

>>15020167
Strindberg

"I like Strindberg because he was always pushing women down stairs." - Lars von Trier

>>15020223
Have you read Is-Slottet by the same author? I know Norwegians on /int/ treat the film like a meme because of the naked little girls, but I'm curious about the book.

>>15020540
I prefer Pan myself but Mysteries is for sure one of his best. /lit/ loves Hunger but idk if it's the best starting place as it's quite unlike the rest of his work. While he wrote a lot of psychological novels like Hunger nothing that came out later was as rambling or unbridled imo.

And yeah I honestly don't know how you can get bored reading Hunger.

>>15020567
No, planning to read it by next week (maybe even tomorrow).

> because of the naked little girls
Yeah I've heard about it as well. However, I've heard a lot of good things about it as well. I found people to mention Is-slottet more than Fuglane, which are both his most famous works.

>>15020530
> americans
> book club
> 12 women

holy fuck. why are burgers like this

> I'm norsk but you convinced me to read him.

Koselig å høre! Hvis du er en østlandshomse som meg kan nynorsken være noe vanskelig å forstå, med mindre du allerede har lest en del nynorsk. Vær klar med en ordbok på nettet eller lignende om du må sjekke rundt.

I've already replied to this thread a thousand times, but I'll add more:

Jon Fosse, Knausgård, Sæterbakken, Solstad, Bjørneboe.

>>15020167
Astrid Lindgren or HC Andersen
Scandi children's literature is brutal

I discussed Norwegian literature with someone on /lit/ a year or so ago, and he recommended a author which he said wrote in "nynorsk on steroids". I forgot to take note of the name, but i have later been curious to who he could've meant. Does anybody know or have any suggestions?

>>15020167
Sigrid Undset

>>15020579
He does the same things and has the same thoughts repetitively

Bladee

>>15020850
any of these?

Haldor Laxness, if Iceland is considered part of Scandinavia. Independent People is maximum comfy

>>15021136
Perhaps, I wouldn't recognize the name. I'll look into those mentioned in that article.

>>15021149
Or maybe it is Ivar Aasen himself, who created landsmål (nynorsk). Though I don't know if he wrote any fiction.

>>15021162
Nonono, I would've remembered that much. He did write some fiction, but not much.

>>15020556
>>15021233
Strindberg was absolutely monumental as an artist. Thomas Mann praised Strindberg in an article in Svenska Dagbladet in 1948, especially his wide range of interests and knowledge, even comparing him favourably to Goethe.

>Jag är en djefla man som kan göra många konster.

>>15020167

>>15021233
fantastic pic

for me it's also strindberg but i have not read anything from hamsun or other scandinavian greats apart from andersen

>>15021489
>>15021634
What would you recommend as a starting point for him?

>>15021643
Röda Rummet/The Red Room, for sure.

>>15021643
inferno

Ibsen and Holberg,
but I am a norsk teaterhomo

so guess that wouldn't come as a surprise

>>15020579
>>15020540
Growth of the Soil is superior to all of them.

>>15020579
>And yeah I honestly don't know how you can get bored reading Hunger.
I got pretty bored reading Hunger because I related a lot to the protagonist so it was like reading my own diary (which I already reread a lot)

>>15022293
growth of soil is tedious rural romanticism.

>>15020167
Jeg er overrasket over hvor mange nordmenn det er her på /lit/

>>15020167
I would say knut Hamsun is my favorite, mysteries are one of my favorite books. Hamsuns earlier work is the best (hunger, pan, mysteries) and i would recommend him to anyone who is a fan of Dostoyevsky. When i was younger i liked Ibsen much better because of his social criticism in his works, but now I'm more interested in feelings.

What do /lit/ think of Mykle?

>>15020798
Whats the appeal with knausgård?

>>15022321
doesn't work that way.

>>15022397
one of the best identity fags of all time here was norsk. Guy inherited a cabin by his grandfather and did this shctick of being a contemporary writer going there to work on his novel. He'd post excerpts and ideas and they were all hilarious parodies of things you might actually see. He posted his face a lot. Wish his posts were collected somewhere.

>>15021643

>>15021654
This

>>15021748
Definetly not this, this is late Strindberg, requires a lot of knowledge of his life and writing.

>>15022571
> Whats the appeal with knausgård?

It's really comfy, and at the same time it captures the depths of everyday life. A huge part of it is also the story about masculinity and the life of males which are untold and ignored in todays society. If you've grown up realizing your father was more of a kid rather than an actual adult, you'll find it really relatable.

>>15022397
Men er det virkelig så mange? Jeg hadde vært interessert i å lage en norsk general på lit, men er usikker på om vi hadde vært nok for å lage et ekte miljø.

>>15024041
>A huge part of it is also the story about masculinity and the life of males which are untold and ignored in todays society.
Sounds like the kind of shit women and negroes say to justify placing subpar novels on the canon.

>>15024062
cool, just don't read it then.

>>15021143
Laxness is great. Harry Martinson and Torgny Lindgren are awesome too

Fore me it's Strindberg, who was surprisingly redpilled on the foid question being from Swedistan.

>>15024066
I sure won't

>>15020709
Nynorsk er uironisk cringe

>>15024213
Umulig å vite hva du mener med et slikt utsagn. Hvis alt du har lært om nynorsk er fra vår kjære offentlige bæsjeskole så skjønner jeg hvor du kommer fra, men nynorsk er egentlig et ganske fint skrivemål ellers.

>>15020830
any particular childrens lit you can recommend in norwegian?

Do Finnish writers count

>>15024035
inferno shows you his writing style, nesting between humor, occultism and honest descent into madness (or ocd), while compounding it with his interests. it's not like strindberg is some kind of heavy writer that's hard to understand. it tells you all you need to know about his life in the very first sentence.

>>15024245
Ruffen og den flyvende hollender is probably the most beautiful book I have ever read in my life. I get moved just thinking about it. How it handles themes of regret, loneliness and compassion is the best I've read and the art is amazing
Farvel Rune is brutal, and the best book I've read about grief along with Trollet Trym of den hemmelige farven. Also Håret til Mamma Especially with the haunting illustrations

I've read them all several times since my childhood and they still make me cry, just writing this made me get a lump in my thoat

>>15024213
Syns det er ganske greit jeg, i alle fall så lenge jeg slipper å skrive det. Greit at tvunget sidemål på ungdomsskolen er en håpløs anakronisme, men språket er egentlig ganske fint.

>>15020307

This. Based.

>>15020167
>Scandinavian writers
> No Tove Jansson

>>15020850
Olav H Hauge

>>15022328
>rural romanticism
The best kind of romanticism

>>15020167
Growth of the Soil is probably my favourite book, but when i read Hunger i was a bit disappointed. i felt it could have ended much sooner

>>15020167
Njáll

>>15020341
>epic meme, anglo. upvoted!

Little did you know I'm actually an unfunny Dutchman

>>15020830
Does he rape them

>>15024504
>>15024504
Finland isn't part of scandinavia
Scandinavia = Sweden, Norway, Denmark
Nordic countries = the above + Iceland and Finland

Ur right tho, moomin is /lit/

>>15024047
Nordmann (nordlending) reporting for duty

>>15020579
Yeah, getting bored in Hunger is pretty much impossible due to the main characters über-ADHD stream of consciousness.

I just started reading Hunger/Sult, and it's a nice read so far. I am in the end of the first part so like 1/3 into the book. The whole thing is only like 150 pages or so. Since I have mega-ADHD I'm a pretty slow reader, so I like to take my time with books but this one I am probably going to finish in less than a week if I keep ut this pace.

I have only read Pan and some of Hamsuns short-stories previous to this, but I don't see a reason not to start with Hunger. It's a fairly easy read, even when reading it in old-timey-fuck Norwegian like I am.

>>15020167
Garborg.
But lads, was Knausgård a fluke? I absolutely loved Min Kamp books, but I hear nothing about his other works.

>>15025121
It's because they just aren't known. "Spring" is really good. His two first books are also fantastic. His other works are a little bit more philosophical, and he writes a lot of essays. I don't know if you're Norwegian or English, but something that is great about Knausgård is that his works translate really well.

On the subject of historical/mythological fiction, I'd recommend Eyvind Johnson's novels to anyone. Strändernas Svall (Return to Ithaca) is a psychological re-telling of the myth of Odysseus; absolutely fantastic. There is also Hans Nådes Tid (The Days of His Grace), a book about a Langobard family during Charlemagne's conquest of northern Italy.

There's also Frans G. Bengtssons Röde Orm (The Long Ships), the quintessential adventure novel about a young norseman's (mis)fortunes in Europe in the late 900s. Absolute swedish staple for young people wanting to get into literature.

>>15025148
Spring is in a trilogy? I'll see if I can get them in English.

>>15025271
It's actually four books. However, all of them except Spring are just collections of essays and short stories written to his children. Spring is a full on novel in the style of Min Kamp, but is less about himself and his feelings, and more about the outer world.

If you'd like to read all of them, sure go ahead. I did, and they are comfy and nice. However, if you really don't care about essays and so on, there is no need to bother. His essays are really just him writing about whatever he wants to, sometimes going into some philosophical and metaphysical thoughts he has about things in life. They are by no stretch great philosophical works, but they are written in great prose and are rather comfy.

>>15024047
man kunne jo laget en skandinavisk general her

>>15024805
But Tove was a Swede.

>>15025415
ja.

>>15025415
ålreit, jeg vil lage en iløpet av dagen. Sørg for å bidra med noe der idag, så andre nordmenn kan se at det er ting som skjer der og ikke bry seg.

>>15022321
For me, it's the Joker.

>>15020167
Hjalmar Söderberg

anyone read tom kristiensen's havoc?

I think hamsun is the only Scandinavian I've read. I liked both hunger and growth of the soil. I was surprised by how different they were

>>15025936
Try Mysteries and Pan if you want something inbetween. They have both the lyrical passages describing nature from Growth of the Soil and the psychological character study of Hunger.

>>15025415
gor det bossemand

>>15020167
I got filtered hard by this book, tell me what I missed?

>>15026283
>Entry level short book
>Filtered
??????????

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>>15022397


Endte opp med å bli en norsk general, glemte meg og burde kanskje prøvd en skandinavisk først hvis denne blir misslykket prøver vi med en skandinavisk en senere.

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>>15020556
It always astonishes me how quickly one writer could have caught an entire country up in literature which before was lagging behind in the extreme, Pushkin did it with Russia earlier in the century, and Strindberg arguably with his drama even surpassed Ibsen by making him look antique, though Ibsen in the long run might have had the advantage

It probably also helps that he was legitimately crazy and didn't have a single nice word to say about women from his birth to death

>>15027663
>didn't have a single nice word to say about women from his birth to death
how does that ’help’

>>15027663
>and didn't have a single nice word to say about women from his birth to death
I don't think it's quite fair to define Strindberg as "that woman hater". His relationship to women was very complicated; he couldn't live with them, or without them. For someone to take his position on women, they would have had to love them more than what was proper to begin with.

And don't forget that Strindberg didn't just help Sweden catch up to the world, he pushed world literature forward (especially theatre).