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What's the solution to nihilism?

>> No.14999690

sex dolls

>> No.14999710

>>14999691
This, and quit the porn.

>> No.14999738

>>14999673
Just be a simple religious animal and "believe" in stuff again.

>> No.14999779

>>14999738
The atheist takes a much larger leap of faith by claiming God doesn't exist than the human does by believing in God, considering nearly everything able to be known isn't.

>> No.14999784

>>14999681
This. What seems to be the problem. Are we supposed to lie to ourselves and say there actually is an objective meaning to this all? Seems dishonest

>> No.14999788

>>14999691
And read less books. Reading too many is proven to mess with your dopamine receptors and make you appreciate books less

>> No.14999800

>>14999779
The difference is in how one responds to the epistemological limitations. Any honest atheist must admit to a theoretical agnosticism, but without making the mistake of filling in the gaps of our knowledge with fantasy bullshit, gods and so forth.

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14999851

It's not a problem therefore there is no solution for it.

>> No.14999864

>>14999827
Nihilism is older than internet porn

>> No.14999880

Sadly, any teenager or alchoholic can claim to be a "nihilist", unfortunately it tends to revert into an emotional indulgence with little cognitive content to it.

>> No.14999922

>>14999691
Is auto fellatio masturbation?
if not I found a loophole.

>> No.14999926
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>>14999673
You find your purpose, your own meaning.
Simple!

>> No.14999946

>>14999673
gnosis

>> No.14999955

>>14999673
Perfecting yourself in whatever your profession is and helping people in need

>> No.14999987

Capital

>> No.14999990

>>14999977
The New Testament

>> No.14999992

>>14999691
>>14999710
trying
>>14999788
burned my self out reading metaphysics what do i read?

>> No.15000004

I really don't know anymore. I really don't.

>> No.15000021
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>>14999673
By realizing that both nihilism and eternalism are wrong.

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15000025

>>14999960
*cli-click*
Get off muh board.

>> No.15000041

>>14999673
It's anime isn't it

>> No.15000244

>>14999682
pantheism is like nihlism. Pantheism is like accepting fate as gods will, while nihlism is accepting fate of reality I guess, both euphorias, amor fati in german I guess, since NIetzsche

>> No.15000378

>>14999681
because the soul doesn't accept nihilism

>> No.15000389

>>14999788
>comparing the productive habit of knowledge acquisition with the destructive addiction of porn-induced orgasm

>> No.15000672

>>15000621
that's a fake scriptures that's not even from buddha, cringe

>> No.15000680

>>14999827
Thats not what I said. You can't just wish upon the star that there is objective meaning

>> No.15000701

>>15000680
it only seems like a wish upon a star because your dopamine receptors are burnt out
give us an example of something you think is objectively meaningless

>> No.15000709

>>15000701
life

>> No.15000846

>>15000709
The meaning of life is to follow the will of God. Stop watching porn.

>> No.15000864

>>15000709
objectively, the meaning of life is "the phenomenon by which organic stuff reacts to stimuli and reproduces"
if you fail to value the objective meaning of life that's your issue, not objectivity.
furthermore, if you stop cooming for reasons other than reproduction, you will cease to feel this way.

>> No.15000978

NoFap. Studies have proven that the same part of the brain that grants meaning to your life can be effected by watching porn and masturbating.

>> No.15001265

>>15000317
yeah fuck those guys and their successful, private family business. i prefer publicly traded psychopaths and watch MSNBC every night.

>> No.15001269

>>14999800
atheists are retarded

chances of a universe existing without a creator: 0
chances of a universe existing with a creator: 100 percent

atheists: there is no creator

genius

>> No.15001298

>>15001269
These “chances” are faith based.
But how could there have been a nothing that more not there or then than an empty space. An empty space sharing the infinite universe with a large/small (multiple even. No one can know) mass that understandably exploded at some point. (Caused of the explosion unknown. A stray pin or mint from a passing luxury liner perhaps)
Your imaginary nothing isn’t even as fathomable as a creator/afterlife/eternal soul. This nothingness has less credibility, this never-space is not a thing.
Bring back a god or gods, afterlife or soul, they all have a slim chance of still being a thing, but this nothingness, this never-space, cannot.

The odds of there being a god/afterlife/eternal soul are terribly slim that a mere agnostic at 50/50 is an embarrassed sort of person and his existential angst drive him nearly mad. Stop pulling into the madness, ya creep.

>> No.15001450

>>15001298
>it just exists man and we just happen to be living on a rock where energy is distributed on the surface by rotating around a burning ball of floating gas, and yeah the universe allows matter to come together to create experience but it's all coincidence, haha god sux im 13 and sam hurris is so fucking smart dude

>> No.15001496

>>15001450
Yeah, I get that you don’t know how galaxies and solar systems form, but lets get back to “before the beginning”
Go on. Describe it. What IS at the ends of time/space? Why os the all seeing eye waiting there taking his own sweet time in starting this fucked up project to test little ol man?

>> No.15001512

>>15001496
>oh so it's turtles all the way down then? hahaha read some dawkins dude it has all the answers

>> No.15001514
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15001514

The subsumption of the individual into a grand narrative.

>> No.15001557

There are no nihilists. The self-proclaimed ones are just edgy hedonists.

>> No.15001573

>>14999673
Nihilism is freedom.

>> No.15001581

>>15001573
>freedom from meaning, purpose , objective truth and the good
Sounds like self-refuting shit.

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>>14999673
A relationship with God and a place in His eternal Kingdom and access to eternal life.

>> No.15001610

>>15001581
XD How can one escape objective truth? Where can one be free of reality?

Nihilism is freedom, not lunacy. YOU get to decide what happens next. Are you strong enough to decide?

>> No.15001618

>>15001610
>I am the arbiter of truth
lol

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>>15001610
>YOU get to decide what happens next
But then, doesn't it cease to be nihilism?

>> No.15001624

>>15001618
Greentext? Not an answer. You are too weak to answer. :-(

Good luck becoming free of your slave ideology.

>> No.15001639

>>15001619
Nah that's the overgoing. You have to come out the other side of your downgoing to overgo and become the ubermensch, capable of will.

Nihilism has two parts. The first is deconstructive downgoing where all dogma is destroyed and only self, reason, and the will to power remain. You become free. The second part is constructive overgoing where you decide what you are and what you will be, then by your will become.

>> No.15001655

That’s highly personal. My solution to it was Germanic Polytheism

>> No.15001665

same solution as to determinism. if you have a set of options to choose from, and there is no inherent meaning to any of them, you can choose whatever you think is the right one, and since we factually live in an ex-ante existence choosing is no worse than the alternatives. so by ad ignorantium there's nothing fallacious holding morals and that you cannot choose wrongly

>> No.15001684

>>15001639
How do you decide what to become? What makes one option better than another?

>> No.15001699

>>14999682
>>14999779
>>14999946
>>14999949
>>14999977
>>14999990
>>15001514
>>15001517
>>15001602
>>14999738
childlike ignorance cope.
>>14999690
>>14999721
>>14999955
>>14999987
>>15001044
mindless pleasure and existentialism cope.

>> No.15001715

>>15001684
I can't decide for you. That wisdom comes from the examined life worth living. Good luck in your downgoing.

>> No.15001750

>>15001715
How did you decide what you did for yourself?

>> No.15001765

>>15001750
Excellence, harmony, and positivity. Those guiding ideals work well for me.

>> No.15001821

>>15001765
What do you mean by excellence? How do you determine that something is harmonious rather than discordant? What makes something positive rather than negative?

>> No.15001900

>>14999851
Good night, sweet prince.

>> No.15001969

ez, transhumanism

>> No.15001975
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15001975

>>14999673
Nonduality.

>> No.15002131

>>14999673
Faith?

>>14999682
PanENtheism >>> pantheism.

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15002968

>>15001699
Why is childishness and ignorance a bad thing? Why shouldn't I be those things?

Why is mindless pleasure and existentialism bad? Why is resentiment, decadence, slave/master morality bad? Why is the Last Man bad, and why should I not be any of these things? It's definitely not self-evident

>> No.15003637

>>15001975
holy based

>> No.15003650
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15003650

>>14999673
realizing it doesn't actually matter either way and you still have to make a choice of how you want to live.

>> No.15003725

>>15002968
I'm not the anon you replied to, but childishness, ignorance, and pleasure aren't bad in themselves; it's just that maturity, knowledge, and abstinence will better equip you for dealing with whatever life throws at you.

>> No.15003738

>>14999673
Fucking sissy white bois in their cute, plump asses

>> No.15003764

>>14999681
>>14999784
You make this statement out of a nihilistic view, which is not thoughtfully nor ethically achieved. Also this>>15000378

>> No.15003774

>>15001084
>come on, wake up..
Indeed, stop posting anime.

>> No.15003780

>>14999673
i don't even go here often and i see this thread once a month, stop it already

>> No.15003788

>>15001975
But what if that nonduality involves suffering? Why would I prefer that?

>> No.15003812

>>14999673
/VbZw6HE

>> No.15003813

>>15003788
not him but addressing suffering is the only way to truly overcome it

>> No.15004045

>>15003774
Or get some taste.

>> No.15004052

>>15001975
Very based, it's lacking his Brahma Sutra Bhasya though, it would be better to switch that with Aparokshanubhti since the latter contains subtle differences from the works considered unanimously to be his

>> No.15004073

>>15003788
You can learn to. You know Francis Bacon's father tried to cure his homosexuality by having him systematically flogged by young muscular stable boys and look how that turned out...

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15004306

Process Philosophy/Theology
Localism

>> No.15004346

>>15003812
>404 not found
is that the joke?

>> No.15004983

>>14999721
Didn’t he have an extremely cushy job with like QVC or something for a long time?

>> No.15004997
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15004997

>denies absolute truth by using a statement of absolute truth

>> No.15005047

>>14999673
Faith or Nietzsche. I strongly recommend the first. Read the Bagahavad Guta.

>> No.15005186

>>15000864
So reproduce, have your children reproduce and then your children reproduce, and over and over and over again

Nihilism solved, amazing

>> No.15005527

>>15000846
How do I know whether the will of God is against porn?

>> No.15005535

>>15000864
I'm asexual though.

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>>15005186
people who see themselves as the species and not as individuals deserve the rope

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>>15003725
Why should I want to be better equipped for dealing with life, dear anon?

>Because you will suffer less?

Why should I want to suffer less?

>Because...
A)
B)
C)
D)
...

You fill in the blanks, please.

>> No.15006936

>>15001699
jokes on you, sex dolls are not just "mindless pleasure" they're for protecting your immortal soul and sharing your deepest secrets.

>> No.15006949

>>15001699
retard

>> No.15006964

life has to be lived with values derived from something that exists

you exist

derive values from the internal and fixed, rather than the external (and often fictitious)

family, sex drive, etc

>> No.15007265

>>15001512
>no answers
>spaghetti everywhere

>> No.15007809

>>15001517
holy shit there are sedes on /lit/

>> No.15008521

>>15002968
>Why is childishness and ignorance a bad thing
because don't defeat logical argument of nihilism. really low IQ posts in this thread >>15003725

>>15006949
lalala I'm not listening lalala let's just make up nice stories to cope.

>> No.15008682

>>14999673
Me. I'm almost here

>> No.15008797

>>15006964
So the philosophy of Stirner/Nietzche.
Nihilism has already been overcome for those who can overcome it, if someone has read one of the two and stays in nihilism there's simply no hope for them.

>> No.15008805

>>14999673
Just being yourself

>> No.15009011

>>14999673
becoming age 19

>> No.15009505
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15009505

>>14999673
You should abolish your vices, while realizing even this won't help

>> No.15009669

>>14999788
It's read *fewer* books you faggot, maybe don't follow your own advice just yet.

>> No.15009670

>>14999673
Getting gay

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>>14999673
>What's the solution to nihilism?
Realize the same being who created you and sustains you, from nanosecond to nanosecond, knew you before you were born, and will surely know you after you die. And nothing you do is out of his sight or out of his justice. Nothing happens by chance, literally everything is suffused with meaning and point to Him...

>> No.15009945

>>14999721
The cuck pledge

>> No.15009960

>>14999673
Absurdism

>> No.15010635

>>14999673
Stoicism