/lit/ - Literature

>>15000661
Read Ideas.

>>15000738

No, it's universally bad for everyone, it's just that the "symptoms" are worse for normies/extroverts whereas NEETs/introverts do somewhat better with staying inside (but even the average introvert needs a periodic trip outside, visit with friends etc). All humans are social animals wired for interaction with others, and if they are not, then they are suffering from a sickness which implies morbidity.

t. alcoholic loner

>>15000778
These boring takes just proves that you don't really know these languages or never tried to broaden your horizons on them.

Source?

Justine by the Sade

Homer didn't speak Greek and Cervantes didn't speak Spanish

>>15000778
Greek: Aeschylus
Latin: Cicero
Italian: Leopardi
Spanish: Vega
French: Proust
Russian: Tolstoy

>>15000778
>according to people who speak the language
>French: Hugo
lol you don't know what you are talking about
according to "people who speak the language", the greatest french authors are camus, proust, de saint exupery, malraux, celine

I read Dantes Inferno and I wasnt really impressed with it.

Good job redditors are seething

>>15000847
lol
>>15000883
source?

>>15000891
Dantes Inferno is a video game. Do you mean the Divine Comedy? Did you even really read the Divine Comedy?

Latin: Ovid, his range is amazing and even in the Metamorphoses he has excellent economy of language. Virgil and Cicero are S tier too, but they are more prone to blathering than Ovid is.

>>15000891
>>15000919
>retard filterd
good job anon

>>15000913
never mind. found another list which does have hugo on it. still has most of the others higher, plus zola, stendhal, balzac above hugo.
nothing against hugo myself, i don't have the patience for him these days though.

Milton is pretty good for english

>>15000932
Who made these lists? What I'm saying is if you asked most frogs, they'd tell you Hugo is their best author.

>>15000778
>Shakespeare
>author
He wrote plays

>>15000832
Cervantes did speak Spanish

>>15001134
He authored published texts didn't he? Including poems.

>>15000595
Obviously becoming a professor, like any intellectual/creative job, is not IMPOSSIBLE, but not many who try succeed, and those who do succeed usually don't end up doing what they thought they would. However, part of the reason for this is that many people try who just aren't qualified or competent, and who have a very narrow or unrealistic idea of what the job entails: they think they'll get paid to jerk themselves off 24 hours a day.

So ask yourself: why do you want to become a professor? Because of prestige and 'comfy' lifestyle and elbow patches and you just want to read all day?

Let me give you some advice: the world isn't about you. Your mission in life isn't to show everyone how great and unique you are. That doesn't mean you can't be great and unique, it means can't be so only for yourself: you have to participate in the world. This isn't crushing, it's liberating, because it means your validity doesn't just come from what's on your CV, or how radical your art is; it means you don't have to stand atop the bloody heap of ruthless competition. Instead, reach out to others, collaborate with them, show interest in someone besides yourself.

Should you become a professor? Don't try to be someone. Try to do something. And do it for the world you're in and will leave behind.

>>15001210

That's very considerate of him because I've dismissed his work before even familiarising myself with it. Bap deserves all our most supercilious distain for being very unserious intellectually.

>>15000883
What level of midwittery is it where you confidently assert that the 270 million strong population of Francophones prefers Celine to Hugo?

>>15000778
why blonde women so pretty

>>15000832
>Homer didn't speak Greek

>>15000891
??? why do americans do this? they release the inferno as prose and stand alone.

>>15000778
why don't you ask the Spanish what they think of this? They got their own gen now
>>15001662

>English: Shakespeare
No. Sir Walter Scot is better and English wasn't his first language!

>>15000919
>>15000928
that anon may very well be retarded, but most people stop reading Dante after Inferno. The Divine Comedy also has Purgatorio and Paradiso

>>15000778
>German: Goethe
Topkek, choke on a dick, nobody likes Goethe, he is just named because everybody is forced to read him in school and he is a symbol for Bildungsbürger. His only good work is Faust, anyway.

>>15001233
Who the greatest French and Russian authors are is certainly debatable, but the answers given are the ones I think the most speakers of the language would give.

>>15000778
>Hamsun
cringe

>>15003185
In previous posts I've said it was Ibsen, but people didn't like that.

>>15001964
Heaven is boring as shit, nobody cares.

>>15000778
nobody reads Vondel here

>>15000778
Greek: Homer is obviously the best shit you can read in Greek but you can't really talk about "him" if you want to name a skilled writer...so imma go with Plato because that shit is inventive and technically sick in ways that doesn't come across in translation
Latin: Virgil probably maybe Ovid tho
Italian: Dante
Portuguese: idk lol
English: Joyce
Spanish: Borges
Dutch: idk lol
French: Proust (who the fuck says Hugo lol)
German: Goethe
Russian: Dostoevsky
Norwegian: Ibsen

>>15000832
I'll bite. What languages did they speak?

>>15003155
Russians would def say Pushkin but I think French people might be inclined to say Voltaire, Proust, or even Camus (if they're edgy)

Chinese: Tu Fu

>>15000832
Yeah and Shakespeare didn't speak English either

>>15003561
Many on this board would say Moliere or Racine for French. Voltaire or Camus would be pretty bad answers though.

>>15000778
This take reeks of pseud.

>>15003583
Yeah though I always saw French people (perhaps not on this board though) absolutely loving Camus and holding him as figure of pride. Perhaps that's more of the gen public though.

>>15003610
I find that hard to believe.

>>15000778
Poets (based alert incoming)
>English: Byron
>French: Baudelaire
>German: Rilke
>Latin: Virgil

>>15001982
Who does everyone consider to be the greatest German author?

>>15003963
Thomas Mann

>>15003551
>Norwegian: Ibsen

Pseud detected. Ibsen wrote in Danish, not Norwegian.

>>15003947
>English: Milton
Ftfy

>>15004039
Absolutely fucking not

France: Rebatet

Japan: Junji Ito

>>15001806
this is partly true btw

>>15005296
based

op said "according to people who speak the language" not your opinion on who's the greatest author in every language

>>15003432
plebs don't. platricians do care.

>>15000778
>Norwegian: Hamsun
t. Hunger pleb

>>15005507
If it isn't Hamsun or Ibsen then idk who it would be, unless you think it should be Knausgaard.

Who were the best Swedish and Japanese authors, though?

>>15005405
Yeah, but I doubt OP speaks those languages.

>>15000778
japanese would probably be Natsume Souseki, french would probably be Camus not Hugo, and russian would probably be either Tolstoy or Dostoevsky, not Pushkin, german may be Goethe but i feel like more people would say Kafka or Hesse or Mann or someone other than Goethe (normal people don't like verse lol)
>>15003432
Paradisio was boring but the imagery was kinda weird
if only it permeated our culture in the way his depiction of hell did

>>15005507
give me some patrician norwegian authors

>>15005735
>>15005507
>>15003551

Finding out who is the best author in the Norwegian language is kind of problematic, as there is more than one standardized way of writing the language (you can argue that there is at least 4, but nynorsk and bokmål is the usual ones). You'd have to comment on both the best bokmål writer and nynorsk writer.

>>15006418
Knausgård, Vesaas, Jon Fosse, Sæterbakken, Solstad

>>15006302
>>15003551
>Because, after Shakespeare, Victor Hugo has generated across five continents more literary studies, philological analyses, critical editions, biographies, translations, and adaptations of his work than any other Western author.

From the Temptation of the Impossible by Llosa.

>>15006302
most on this board would say soseki or Mishima for Japan. I'll say Yasunari Kawabata or Kenzaburo Oe to make things interesting. I fr think it's OE

>>15006606
well the question is what would people who speak japanese say, and Souseki is the only author who's been on the currency
personally i think Dazai was the best author though

>>15006625
they would say Shikibu

>>15006418
Sigrid Undset is patrician

>>15000778

>Spanish: Cervantes

No fucking way.

I'd say Borges perhaps.