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14990146 No.14990146 [Reply] [Original]

Lets do something different from MBTI, political orientation types of tests.
1. post results
2. favorite philosopher
3. favorite author
4. favorite poet
Take it here: https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/IPIP-BFFM/

>> No.14990183

>>14990146
OP again. Here's mine:
Kant
Aeschylus
Dante

>> No.14990227
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>>14990146
Plato.
John Robinson.
Emily Dickinson.

>> No.14990289
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>>14990146
Camus
Samuel Delany
Blake

>> No.14990347
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Currenty Levinas
Milton, although I haven't read literature in a whlie
Rilke, or Carson's Sappho

I don't quite get what these results are to tell me

>> No.14990414
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14990414

Plato
Pynchon
Milton

>> No.14990476

>>14990146
>Nietzsche
>DFW
>Baudelaire

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>>14990476
forgot Pic related

>> No.14990492
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14990492

Nick Land
Fernando Pessoa
Plato

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>>14990146
>Nietzche
>Hesse
>Pound

>> No.14990523
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schopenhauer
tolkien
dont read poetry

>> No.14990555
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Rousseau
Salinger
Wordsworth

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>>14990523
Based

>> No.14990730

>>14990486
>that 20 year old bloomer

>> No.14990746

Wow this is a shit test and the results are even worse.

>> No.14990863

>>14990347
Search up OCEAN personality model and check the Wikipedia page for starters.

>> No.14991701

>>14990146
MBTI has it´s fault but BIG FIVE is a true dumpster fire.
all of the facets are dependent on circumstances
Extroversion:
>are you exhausted, with strangers or people you know?
emotional stability, conscientousness,agreeableness:
>are you in bad situation and act stressed cause of it?!??!?
>hm this means i can judge your character on it!!1!!
intellect/imagination:
>really?

they all depend on circumstances and what is a test usefull if your whole character changes by its own metrics when you´re a bit stressed out?? it´s more of a mood indicator if nothing else

>MBTI has chosen weird metrics, as feel-think,like it´s in oppsosition .
>Enneagram is ok if you write a character sheets and their role in a story but skindeep in meaning elsewhere.
>Socionics doesnt give any answers only more questions the deeper you go into it and is full of symetric autism invented by Jungian psychoanalyticers

It´s kind of weird that in over 100 years no semi basic but usefull metric could be invented by psychoanalysis. almost like it´s an fraud...

>> No.14991720

>>14991701
IQ and big 5 both work. "My score is partially measuring my response to my environment." So your personality is partially a result of environmental influences. A measure of personality traits that didn't capture that would be a bad measure

But you're going to post the Taleb medium article and a smug picture with no further statement.

>> No.14991745
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14991745

Camus
Dostoyevsky
Bukowski

>> No.14991749

>>14991720
Taleb article?
I just have a bit goodwill to MBTI and socionics cause even if it fails but at least it tries to explain HOW a person sees the world and filters stufff out.
if you would get tormented by someone your BIG 5 would change afterwards forever but your MBTI not.
like i said it´s more of a mood indicator

>> No.14991759

>>14991720
>IQ and big 5 both work.
Lmao. Big5 is based on a factor analysis of adjective ascriptions. Utter garbage.

>> No.14991794
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14991794

Nietzsche
Pessoa
Not really into poetry

>> No.14991844
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I don't read much philosophy, but I like Foucault
Proust
Frank O'Hara

>> No.14991861
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Weber
Goethe
Eliot

>> No.14991886

>>14991749

I do think you're right in the sense that the big 5 are one dimensional, quantitative measures of qualitative differences.

Cobb-Clark & Shurer 2011 found adults' big 5 scores to be stable across time. Jang et all 96 found the traits to be about 50% heritable, on average. Whatever these tests measure, they aren't just measures of how you feel on a given day.


>>14991759
Well, of course it's a reductive and artificial framework. The Big 5 are used in spite of these limitations, which are inherent when examining complex systems like a person's brain, because they are parsimonious and have predictive validity. They illustrate truths about personality that are useful to us.

>> No.14991904
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14991904

Hume
Nabokov
Nabokov

>> No.14991929

>>14991886
>Well, of course it's a reductive and artificial framework
That's not my criticism. My criticism is that it is an exercise in crowdsourced lexicography, not personality psychology.

>> No.14991952

>>14991929
>>14991929
The Big 5 could be Fleeps, Grorks Sprankles, Ziggs and Winkies. If these nonsensically chosen terms had predictive validity, it wouldn't matter.

What is the difference between the "wisdom of the crowds" and your ideal personality psychology?

>> No.14991982

>>14991952
You're still not getting it. Lexicography is not psychology, any more than it is physics or chemistry. At best you can construct a pre-theoretic understanding of "folk physics" etc from how people use certain terms. But that obviously won't help you with physics itself. Predicting how people pre-theoretically use certain adjectives can be useful for constructing a naive 'folk psychology' but not for understanding actual psychological phenomena.

>> No.14992000
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>>14990146
Deleuze
H.F.M. Prescott
Don't know

I mostly read light novels

>> No.14992036
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Carlo Michelstaedter

Cesare Pavese

Giacomo Leopardi

>> No.14992041
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John Paul II
Graham Green or James Joyce
e.e. cummings or Robert Browning

>> No.14992069
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Philosopher: Gustavo Bueno/Spinoza/Aristotle
Author: Cervantes and Joyce
Poet: Dante and Éluard

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>>14990146
What is this fucking test even?

>> No.14992796
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14992796

>Dante
>Dante
>Dante

>> No.14992853
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Kant
Aeschylus
Dante

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>>14990146
1. Schopenhauer
2. Dostoyevsky
3. Shakespeare (if he doesn’t count, Goethe)

>> No.14993010
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>>14990146
Camus or Kierkegaard
Dostoevsky
Shakespeare

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>> No.14993057

>>14993048
>2. favorite philosopher
i dont read philosophy
>3. favorite author
probably tolstoy
>4. favorite poet
i dont read poetry

>> No.14993063

also how the fuck am i the least extroverted person in this thread so far? i have a gf.

>> No.14993089
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>Neetchay
>Taleb
>I have no idea, maybe a medieval poet

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14993157

Nick Land
Dostoievski
Dickinson

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>>14990146

Favorite Philosopher: C. S. Lewis. I disagree with some of his baseline assumptions (specifically theism), but the Abolition of Man is probably the single work of philosophy I have the greatest regard for.

Favorite (Classic) Author: Tolstoy, although Steinbeck gets an honorable mention

Favorite (Modern) Author: James Morrow

Favorite Poet: I'm uncultured and never developed a taste for poetry.

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>all these people with high agreeableness
>on 4chan
something doesn't add up...

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14993390

I don't like to play favorites, but I will say I'm into esoterica, philosophy, hard sci-fi, and autodidactic practice.

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Nietzsche
Rarely read works by the same author. Maybe Orwell, Hitler, Kaczynsky or Dante?
Dante Alighieri

>> No.14993411

>>14993288
This is why the term samefag was invented

>> No.14993576
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>>14990146
Schopenhauer, Jung
Goethe
>>14991701
For me, the Neuroticism and Consciousness changes depending on the environment and my mood, but the other traits are stable.

>> No.14995319 [DELETED] 

hnnng give me your virile viral load

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>>14991701
>are dependent on circumstances
Yes. Everything that involves other people is circumstantial and subjective. What shouldn't be-granted you've actually been (oh boy here it comes) conscientious-is your behavior towards people and situations. Of course everyone is not going to be that resilient Stoic who can face anything the same way. But anyone can be. They just need to put their foot forward and take the step towards that development. Read some more Stoic philosophy friend.
>inb4 cuck philosophy
It isn't. Normies just simplify it to be so.

>> No.14995438

People low in agreeableness and high in neuroticism truly are the vermin of planet Earth

>> No.14995546

>>14995149
Why your text box is green?

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>> No.14995645 [DELETED] 

>>14995598
Just use bookdepository. I would recommend you buy Plato/Aristotle/Descartes/Locke to start out with. Down the road I'd recommend Plotinus, Leibniz, Hume, Spinoza, Aquinas, Anselm, Augustine and Kant. You can just pirate more expensive books on libgen.

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The world nigger is constantly evolving

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>>14990146

>"what is the best was to summarize an individual?".

>> No.14995987

These data mining threads are getting more and more elaborate. Why don't I send you my credit card number and a picture of my asshole while I'm at it.

>> No.14996663

>>14996646
cover your mouth, anon

>> No.14996698
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>>14990146
Nietzsche
Dosto
Whitman

>> No.14996700

meiibee i'll do this later