/lit/ - Literature

>>14986124
El Libro Negro de la Nueva Izquierda

>>14986124
i dont get how you even manage to trick yourself into finding men sexually attractive in the first place

>>14986149
CURING, not inducing.

>>14986124

Have you considered reading Beowulf?

>>14986137
cringe and bluepilled

>>14986124
Have you ever tried fucking a woman?

>>14986163
how

>>14986124
Use LSD reprogramming as described by RAW.

>>14986124
Homosexuality (when passive) it's just a great desire of submission due degeneracy and low self-esteem. When active only degeneracy applies. So look for books which focus on trying to fix those two things.

>>14986124
If you homosexual that’s it. Can you be slightly bisexual?
I would not trust a book to tell me what my sexuality is.

>>14986137
I know! Can relate. Men are just so blah

don't reply to me creature

>>14986124
First, you need drugs which will shrink your prostate so as to reduce the desire for prostate stimulation, if you’re a faggot bottom. If not, proceed to step two which is exploring your fear of women, or at least intimacy with women. The third and final step is clearing your mind of any regret for the past. What’s done is done and you’re now the wiser for having moved onto a higher consciousness. Congratulations, you are now ascending above a primordial beast.

>>14986169
any books on how to do this?

>>14986124
No such books here I'm afraid, keep looking

>>14986149
Yeah, that'll do it

>>14986162

>poems

why?

>>14986149

cringe

>>14986129

go back paco.

>>14986137

i only like twinks and femboys, but i legit need to stop. its killing my everyday life.

>>14986169

never honestly. had chances but not interest.

>>14986172

>lsd

lol no, dont want panic attacks

>>14986277
im not a faggot bottom, only top. also i stopped caring about ascending once i realized there is nothing good about it? whats the purpose of ascending? if only you will be lonely at the top.

>>14986313

i legit need help bro.

>>14986245
i dont want to be bisexual, neither gay, i want to be straight.

>>14986277
>Evola being right about anything

>>14986349
>i dont want to be bisexual, neither gay, i want to be straight.
Oh honey I'm sorry. You can't change it. You need to accept that.

>>14986349
>whats the purpose of ascending? if only you will be lonely at the top.
The purpose of ascending is to lose the Idea of (You). When you fully embody absolute being you will feel pure bliss.

>>14986349
Bisexuals will often try to fit into either one or the other, sometimes hiding the fact. You have no others choices. If you’re not interested in women at all, just live celibate or mostly celibate

>>14986365

help me or shut the fuck up, you're not helping. you fucking slut with daddy issues.

>>14986349
>i only like twinks and femboys, but i legit need to stop
How many "twinks" and "femboys" do you see in real life? Maybe it's because I live rurally, but I've never seen one in the flesh. Gay guys seem to be rather vulgar looking people. Not pleasant to see in public.

Sure, there are a lot online, and you're seeing them through the perception of highly flattering angles, lighting and clothing. It's also highly pornographic, so it's doing things to your brain that you wouldn't normally think. I'd advise spending a lot less time looking at pornographic materials, even lewd images on twitter or 4chan, and that should help bring your sexual urges back to normal defaults.

One thing to keep in mind with "twinks and femboys" is that you're likely attracted to them for their softer, more feminine features. Always keep in mind that what you're attracted to is femininity and the female form, not masculinity nor the male form. When you see males with feminine characteristics, always remember that they are doing it inferior to any natural woman who exudes natural femininity without affectation.

>>14986365
>Oh honey I'm sorry. You can't change it.
Actually, sexuality is a dynamic property and highly fluid. Given the wrong environment, many young men often become heterosexual through normalized social behavior. Of course, as we slowly introduce more and more environmental cues which signify homosexuality, bisexuality, and transgenderism, we can successfully manipulate the young heterosexual male into desiring non-heterosexual relationships. You see, humans are not very complex.

you can chop your balls off and be asexual, or you can take tranny drugs and be a woman, neither of those would be homo by technicality.

>>14986381

i dont want to sacrifice my own ego, the ego its what makes a man, why would i change my persona? the porpose of one man is building himself where he came from and make himself better, not changing his whole foundations of ideas.

>>14986384

i dont want to live celibate, i want to hold hands with a girl even thought i hate them, i want to atleast die knowing i loved somebody.

>>14986391

i legit love you for this answer, any book about the danger with pornography? im almost like you, i live in a rural town and ''twink and femboys'' tend to irks me, but when i see them on internet it makes me want to atleast flirt with them, also you're absolute right about me liking feminity, any books or foundation about it? kudos anon, love you seriously.

>>14986404

not bottom bro, you confused me.

>>14986398
its what is affecting me that its making me scared.

>>14986386
Dude... This is something you just have to accept. You look in the mirror and your hair is brown, that's just the way it is. You look at a twink's boyhole and your cock gets hard, that's just the way it is. It's not wrong and it's not your fault.

>>14986124
that's a man.

>>14986245
Gay men feel the same about women.

>>14986405
>i dont want to sacrifice my own ego, the ego its what makes a man
Your ego is what makes the ego. There is nothing about an ego which makes it definably you. When you learn to disown this ego you will see the light. You are not free. You are a slave to desire!

>>14986442
straight men are repulsed by the thought of gay sex.
"gay" men are just bored.

>>14986435

i dont want to be gay, its not worth it or healthy. yes maybe its like that but is not good in the long run.

>>14986441

maybe its you, but ego is what makes what i am really. without ego, we would be like animals, plus ego is a human concept. what are you right is that im an slave of desires. but everytime i turn into the spiritual my panic attacks and anxiety come back. any article or book about this?

>>14986349
It's not gay to want to fuck twinks and femboys fyi just don't date them

>>14986137
baste

>>14986430
Honestly man I don't read books I just read things online and have my own thoughts on things
But I'd suggest just replacing that desire to flirt with femboys with a desire to flirt with girls. Girls love attention! They like a guy who can hold a conversation as well, someone who can intrigue them. I would say the satisfaction of getting with a girl is far stronger than getting with a femboy (though I've never done the latter so I'm mostly guessing). With a girl, if you manage to charm and seduce her into finding you attractive, on a certain kind of psychological level it means she thinks you're a fit and worthy mate. That does so much for the ego. There is no such equivalent when it comes to wooing femboys. There's less of a biological/psychological achievement other than managing to dominate a confused and disturbed young man (which some people are into, but it seems a bit sociopathic to me)

>>14986474
yes it is, and that's precisely why you should not "date" them, whether you are male or female.

>>14986473
>but everytime i turn into the spiritual my panic attacks and anxiety come back. any article or book about this?
I have several, but you are not ready for them yet. Your identity has not solidified and you seem lost in the world, someone without a definite place. Read this.

>>14986467
So when straight men get really bored they have gay sex? What the fuck anon?

any books to cure heterosexuality and become a /lit/ fag? i just can't give up on women

>>14986505
I’m addicted to pussy and I cannot lie.

>>14986495
The Twink or femboy has a feminine essence. Fuvking them is an ultimate expression of masculinity and therefore not gay

>>14986473
>i dont want to be gay, its not worth it or healthy.
It's not healthy to lie to yourself about who you are for your entire life. Many many gay men have tried and failed, living sad dishonest lives because they couldn't accept who they were. Please learn from their mistakes.

>>14986503
only the ones with mental illness

>>14986518
It's an artificial essence, and an inferior imitator of that essence. Man can never be better at Womanhood than Woman herself. To fuck an inferior woman makes you an inferior heterosexual. A heterosexual that will take the grisly scraps rather than eat the primest of the meat.

>>14986505
Learn to love your prostate, anon. It will change your life.

>>14986518
the ultimate expression of masculity is a life dedicated to the protection and righteous fostering of your family which you brought into existence by mating with a woman.

>>14986539
>be gay so i dont have to feel alone
how about you stop being gay
oh wait thats hard and involves accountability

>>14986405
Love is more than eros

>>14986490
There's less of a biological/psychological achievement other than managing to dominate a confused and disturbed young man (which some people are into, but it seems a bit sociopathic to me)

i have this thing about taking revenge of my father and let it out all my rage with confused boys, i've come in conclusions with this, because i've been into hatefucking and hard sex for some reason.

>But I'd suggest just replacing that desire to flirt with femboys with a desire to flirt with girls.

i swear i want to try this, but im legit confused and cant feel the appeal for girls.

>>14986519

what kind of men have tried and failed? want to learn why. because i legit have came close to this conclusion of giving up on myself.

>>14986501

thanks anon, will this help me with my panic attacks and anxiety when im trying to understand the mechanics of the universe and god?

>>14986349
>lol no, dont want panic attacks
I'm sorry "man" buy you are one of those rare cases in which homosexuality is part of your genes. There's no cure for you. You would be a faggot even if you believed you were hetero, because spiritually you are

>>14986567
Were you molested, anon? That doesn't sound like a healthy expression of sexuality

The appeal I find for girls is in the link between the feminine and nature. It is from the feminine that all life comes from. Man creates and builds, settles and expands, plans and kills. but Woman exists eternally.
Civilisation, the city, the state, science, technology, order, all of these are Masculine.
The wild, the forest, the mountain, the sky, the sea, chaos, all of these are Feminine.
When you talk to a woman, you are talking to someone who is intrinsically more connected to nature than we are. "Female intuition". "Female emotion." I find it amazing. This is why they're appealing to me. Something so primal and ancient in the female spirit. Conservative and traditional, even, compared to the Promethean and revolutionary spirit of the masculine.

I know all of this sounds ridiculous when you compare it to the average twitter e-thot, but I swear, in the long conversations about life, or in the quiet moments you spend time with them, women really shine as interesting creatures. This is why it's worth loving them.

>>14986574

Not gay, i just did drugs years ago and the first thing i got is paranoia and panic attacks for 1
painful year, not repeating that for some cocksucker on a costa rican weaving basket forum.

>>14986546
>oh wait thats impossible
ftfy

>>14986606
Ahahahahahahah jesus

>>14986606

Not molested, but i was mostly abandoned by my father which he wasnt with me during my important years of my life and maybe thats why i want to find a boyfriend just to let it out all my emotions on him, not only bad but i just want to treat somebody like that person just as i wished my father was. thats why i want a clueless twink boyfriend, but you're right mostly.

you're right about women, they're somewhat amazing but never had good experiences with them or never bother caring about them, i always despised them for some reason more than i am bitter about them, i dont blame them, its all on myself if i change and do the first step. i will take in consideration what you say anon, it really helps. thank you and a big hug, i just realize i have big issues i need to fix.

I knew /lit/ was infested with 16-year-old boomers but wow it's getting pretty bad. Glad I got a lot of good reccs before this place went to shit.

Shame to see brainwashed anti-gay threads go unchecked like this, though. You're allowed to be a fag OP

>>14986667
I'm not brainwashed to be anti-gay.

Literally everything in education and culture is PRO-gay

>>14986129
cringe cringe cringe neocon latino low iq cope

>>14986667
>brainwashed anti-gay
Not being repulsed by homos takes a ton of brainwashing or sexual trauma at a young age.

>>14986612
You're the cocksucker, cocksucker.
You are a gay faggot who is afraid of his own shadow

>>14986124
>>14986667
>>14986676

Uh,.. all books? No.. wait..

I look at this question as a result of sexual repression and frigidity in modern and puritianical society; since the concept of "homosexuality" didn't even exist in the old world and we already know that repression causes bizarre fetishes in people, it's safe enough to shrug the concept off completely as a basically harmless kink of which far too much is made.

My opinion.

I mean, if you're grossed out by a womans cunt, join the club. Doesn't stop you from fucking women or starting a family. And a mans rectum is as gross as a womans, for that matter.

>>14986754
>we already know that repression causes bizarre fetishes in people
But homosexuality is the bizzarre fetish in itself, anon.
What OP is repressing is his natural sexuality, not only reproductively (he said he never had a sexual intetcourse. He probably never had a girlfriend or even tried to get one) but also psychologically (from the way he writes you can see he is infantile and effeminate)

>>14986775
>But homosexuality is the bizzarre fetish in itself, anon.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Not in any denigrating way: it's just another fetish.

lol wait what
>>14986775
>but also psychologically (from the way he writes you can see he is infantile and effeminate)
You gleaned this from OP and his two lines of short text? lol ok then hahaha, valid
/sarc

>>14986801
Another homosexual, provably OP too (pleonasm since OP = faggot)

I have a similar problem anon. Weird thing is that I used to feel attracted to women and had crushes on girls, but bad love experiences and porn use seem to have turned me around.
Maybe you could read Confessions of a Mask or something by Thomas Mann. Both Mishima and Mann struggled with similar shit

>>14986819
>pleonasm
big words, pussy-eater.
now you dun sound like a queer now, hur hur hur

>>14986801
>/sarc

Go the FUCK back you cringy fucking faggot. You know what's not valid? The idea that fags and trannies are just as healthy and legitimate as normal people

>>14986835
>Go the FUCK back you cringy fucking faggot. You know what's not valid? The idea that fags and trannies are just as healthy and legitimate as normal people
hur hur hur get a dun load of this queer and his big werdz! hur hur hur

>>14986844
Seethe

>>14986835
>normal people
what does this even mean?

You're coming from modern advertising and that beta-chad pussy-eater outlook; larping as a married couple constituting some sort of feeder "relationship", which is repulsive to women and makes you weak in the first place.

I'm not saying fucking men is better than this, I think monogamy is dumb as fuck, but I am saying that your outlook on this thing is baseless: think of the hard-as-nails Generals and Admirals of the 1700 and 1800s who grew up wearing dresses - doesn't make any sense, right? Yet it is.

>>14986846
>Seethe
It's amazingly ironic you think you're not gay and that you're telling me, "cringe" and "seethe" .. like a little girl.

Are you sure you're not a bottom in denial? You seem like you are.

>>14986169
Books for this maybe a trhead or guide or chart

>>14986124
Don't bother if you're a nigger, then it's genetic.

>>14986287
Any books on how to fuck with women

>>14986870
>if you hate something you secretly ARE that thing

I guess I must be a gay black tranny :)

>>14986287
This please

>>14986888
well you've adopted prissy bottom language to tell me I'm wrong for not minding homosexuals.

cringe and seethe! lol ok

>>14986888
Based trips. Fags btfo

>>14986888
Actually if you don't like something you secretly want to fuck that thing, like being repulsed by spiders means you want to fuck them. Some very smart jew told me this and it sounds totally logical.

>>14986895
Using accusations of homosexuality to try to upset someone is homophobic.

>>14986287
This

>>14986430
Trannies dont have to be bottoms. You can be a girl and make a guy suck your girlcock. Sounds like it solves your problems.

>>14986801
You need to go back

>moralfagging
My fat cock craves ass, and it will get ass

I hate all you tradcath teens. You're getting turned onto gay sophistication because we're openly ironic about our overwrought aestheticism, our confounded yearning for meaning, and I think especially, these as a reaction to our deep inset sense of shame, of having inherently failed to be what we're supposed to. So let me give you the secret: Being open about the meaninglessness and indulgence of self-expression will only lead you to hilarious floundering (the archetype of the gay hysteric). This will onlyagitate your shame, until you realize: your constantly unsuccessful attempts to make your thoughts, desires, and individual self known obviate the fact that, quite simply, there are limits to your interiority. As superficially scintillating as all the details of your extremely particular subjectivity are, you just aren't interesting enough to be so consumed with yourself. So what does that say about your shame? It's not that interesting! So flout it and let it go. And go be consumed with others! From there, a worthwhile life is yours to create - instead of the failed destiny always already out of reach.

Put simply: once you get over your fear of your internal self, you can embrace gay hysteria; once you have embraced gay hysteria, you can manifest your bizarre individualism to the fullest; once you have exhausted your interiority, you can finally get over yourself, and then, you can undertake to become yourself.

>>14986124
Read the Bronze Age Mindset.

Consider this

Ape in wild never jacks off
Ape in captivity jacks off every day

He speaks on the modern day homosexual. They look at father and brother rough housing, establishing dominance and what not. But this child sees it as retarded. There is no land to conquer in modern times. So sit in your pod and let pornography feed you dopamine. Each time you will need more and more. Eventually leading you to taboo stuff such as twinks and femboys. Some even become the twink and femboy for maximal dopamine.

But this is not what life is about. There is still land to conquer, there are fair maidens to swoop. There is space to establish. You can build an empire. When you stop doing such things. you fiend for dopamine as that is all that is offered in place of discipline. Therefore making an undisciplined male gay.

>>14987021
This is pure nonsense.

>>14986620
by being gay i mean of course to cease indulging in gay activities (voluntary celibacy)
if straight people can do it, then so can you.

>>14987014
morals exist
cope less

>>14987083
What's immoral about sex.

>>14987100
nothing

>>14987083
Prove it

>>14986124
I hate myself for being a homosexual. But I also don't want to cure it. Just got to make peace with what you are

>>14987106
>do something mean
>people get upset
w0w

>>14987271
nobody says you need to hate yourself. that's just an avenue to continue your self-abuse.
im pretty sure the convention is "simply" to abstain from doing any gay, no hatred required.

You're all degenerates.
So this thread has two groups of idiots.

1st group: (OP included)
"i'm gay i hate myself boohoo"
"teach me o' wise straight juans, teach me de way of le naturel sax"

2nd group:
"awaken your instincts and fack le woman"
"you only like men becawse you scared of woman, and you degenerate?"

1st group is an embarrassment to gay people, 2nd group is an embarrassment to straight people.
Again, you're all degenerates and weirdos.

>>14987271
The hate stems from the trauma that made you homosexual, it's a part of it. You need to start loving yourself and you will find a way out of the destructive lifestyle. Come here, have an e-hug. It's going to be alright, son.

>>14987600
3rd Group (you): nurrrr everyone look how smart I am everyone’s stupid but le me *sneers*
Fuckin faggot

>>14987632
Hey fock you faggot

>>14986287
Don Juan Tenorio

>>14987600
Adding to this, the gays in this thread are pitiful and 10x worse than the straight ones; stop worshipping self-proclaimed straight intellectuals and be proud of what you are, you're so pitiful it's disturbing like jesus christ

>>14986124
>books
Reading is gay, so no.

I'm pretty sure I'm gay as a 23 year old guy.

What's the deal with it? Does anyone have any information on homosexuality? Is it even required? Does it just happen?

>>14987673
stop watching porn

>>14987722
I'm gay. My subjective experience while not universal is more accurate than some straight people who make up Fruedian Bs about us. I was always gay for as long as I was sexually aware. I believe it is inborn or otherwise biologically based; I was never molested and grew up in a normal household

>>14986149
a stone to the head is not a cure

>>14987722
>Does it just happen?
Sexual trauma as a kid or overexposure to porn, hormonal imbalance is also possible.

>>14987745
Did you coom a lot and were you bullied?

>>14987776
I was gay before my first coom and no

>>14987773
Is it possible just to be gay without having any severe traumas? I'm pretty sure I always liked guys as early as 13. I'm talking about guys MY age though, at school - and up until now.

I've had girlfriends, hooked up with them and had them interested in me, without reciprocating. I don't get that intense arousal when I'm with them, nor do I get that passionate desire.

But there has been a few guys that I've felt ''love'' or intense infatuation with.

>>14987793
bro that sounds pretty gay

>>14987818
u know it bro x

>>14987793
>Is it possible just to be gay without having any severe traumas?
Of course, the human mind is shaped by many things, it doesn't have to be trauma but it's not uncommon. Could be a variety of issues during development, from mental imprints to hormonal stuff. Have you checked your T levels? Serious question.

>>14987825
Why does it have to be an issue? Is it possible that it's just normal?