/lit/ - Literature

>>14980486
You'd be surprised, most readers are middle-aged women apparently.
But Jaiden Animations...sheesh. Maybe she hasn't read the right books, or maybe she's a zoomer.

>>14980486
more than men, but mostly romance novels and YA

>>14980486
yes, they read messages on tinder

>>14980486
Yes but nothing serious.

>>14980502
Watched about half the vid, she is basically is just complaining that school and her mom forced her to read, because she liked reading more when she was really little and no one made her. Which doesn't really explain why she doesn't like reading now but oh well.
When I was in school I just skimmed the assigned texts and read what I wanted in my free time, when people actually want to read forcing them to read something is counterproductive.

>>14980486
Women read more than men.
Boomer men only think about football and zoomer men only think about video-games

>>14980638
t. woman

>>14980486
Women only read when either:
a) It will improve their perceived social-status. Which is why they stick to low-effort horeshit like ya.
or
b) When it makes their pussy tingle (see 50 shades of grey; alternatively, the entire "romance" genre).

>>14980486
Lindsay Ellis claims to, but she's mostly a pseud spouting acceptable viewpoints, or full-blown SJW tier garbage

>>14980610
being forced to read shit you don't want to will kill your desire to read for years, if not ever. I've heard this same story a hundred times. "I liked to read when I was little, but then highschool happened"

School is a prison and it's designed to destroy children. Everything about school is made to kill creativity and curiosity.

>>14981809
I only remember being a peevish cunt about reading in school once, but after reading lord of the flies followed by mocking bird I was determined to read every known fucking classic out there. No doubt there will be those sparks amongst the kids who are open about reading

>>14981758
she aborted it so you don't have to

>>14981809
This. I still hate reading the authors I was forced to read in school.

It is no excuse to be a bitch about all books though.

>>14981809
>being forced to read shit you don't want to will kill your desire to read for years, if not ever.

Prove it

>>14981831
I think the quality of the books isn't in question (although there's are a lot of shit books out there) it's more the preferences of the students and the being forced to read is what turns people off.
Like all artistic mediums, their enjoyment is incredibly subjective and being unable to consume something like that on your own terms can foster extremely negative feelings.

I escaped that mostly because while I was in grade school, my little ADHD ass just ignored what was going on around me, and I usually read whatever I wanted, and I moved to Europe before highschool

>>14981848
no? eat my ass

>>14981854

You're just a midwit looking for excuses

>>14981854
Being forced to do work in school can also foster negative feelings about work itself in students, its seeing the pleasures in completing difficult tasks and aswell as doing what you may not neccesarily enjoy that makes them initially grow, the same thing can happen with find a fascination reading aswell.

>>14981922
Finding a fascination for reading aswell*

>>14981922
this is true, but I think that's more of an outlier, considering the standard school environment.

>>14981942
Yes I agree, I did not attempt to make that a point. That's almost entirely what it is isn't it.

Women can't think critically or logically, they only think emotionally, which is why they can never truly appreciate art.

Women read more than men. Men just play video games all day.

>>14980486
women read more than men

>>14980486
They do but they have shit taste. Always read shit meant for children

>>14981729
>When it makes their pussy tingle
Fucking based

>>14981707
(s)he's not wrong though...

It's all ego. Stupid people don't like being talked down to, especially for prolonged periods of time. Books are exactly that, someone smart than you talking one way at you for a long period of time trying to impart something upon you. You can blame it on technology, zoomers, etc. but the result is we live in a culture that makes people think their opinion matters and it frustrates these people on a psychological level like no other. Why do you think they hate reading textbooks or treat teachers with disdain? Beyond the "highschool forced me to read boring things" they do not understand that the conversations and posts they read are simply a new, shorter, less thought out form of communication compared to books. They want the immediate gratification of likes on the pictures of their bodies. They refuse to read anything longer than a hashtag. Our brains have rotted away thanks to the environments made by corporations that use us as the product. No one fucking listens to people who have the authority, specialization, or expertise. Everyone has a law degree when the president violates the constitution. Everyone is a doctor now that covid has us stuck at home. The democratization of fact has poisoned the discourse.

Since this is the current anti-women thread on here, can women even refute this?

https://youtu.be/IR8_5J7PBzc

And no, calling him an 'incel' isn't an argument.

>>14983400
It's ok to not want to date someone if they're a sex worker the same way a women might not want to date an engineer because she thinks his job is boring or whatever.

It's not okay to shame sex workers tho, because 1. it's not immoral since it doesn't hurt anyone (except in some cases the sex workers themselves, in which case you wouldn't shame they either) and 2. Literally every guy in the world consumes some type of content stemming from sex work, so it's hypocritical.

>>14981729
this but unironically

>>14983748
I'm not sure an engineer is the best comparison. Maybe if they work oil rigs or drive 18 wheelers and are away for weeks at a time may be a more apt comparison, as it would be a disassociation of the emotional bond that women generally seek in male companionship, just as men seek exclusivity in their sexual relationships in this hypothetical of dating someone with a job that the person sees as unsavory or not aligned with their mode of living.

Women read for plot, men read for ideas.

>>14983748
>It's not okay to shame sex workers tho
You should always shame whores, that way there are consequences to being one. Same way you shame people who abuse animals. This is the fucking lowest point, imagine living an existence as degraded as this, when you're not just selling your time and labour anymore but your very body and sexuality. That this is normalised.

And this is what the so called 'left' is pushing for. Remember when the old socialists compared workers to prostitutes and this was supposed to be a huge insult? Wew, if they were alive today they'd kill themselves.

Fucking retarded neoliberals pushing for the commercialisation of sex. You thought it was bad when culture was turned into shit after it became a factory of disposable garbage pumped out for a quick buck? Wait until your girlfriend has to blow some rich faggots for spare change and if you're against this all of society will mock you for it.

>>14983783
I read fiction only for prose.

>>14983748
You are right we need to rid ourselves of porn.
Or at least switch to 2d porn

>>14983818
>You should always shame whores, that way there are consequences to being one.
You're presupposing being a sex worker is a bad thing, which it isn't.

>Same way you shame people who abuse animals
Completely dis-analogous. If you can't see the difference between two consenting adults trading sex for money and a person abusing an animal who has no choice in the matter, then I can't do much for you.

>This is the fucking lowest point, imagine living an existence as degraded as this, when you're not just selling your time and labour anymore but your very body and sexuality.
Those are some nice feefees you have. But plenty of people want to be sex workers and they certainly don't find it degrading. As long as they're not hurting anybody else, I'm not entitled to tell them what they should or shouldn't do, and neither are you.

>Remember when the old socialists compared workers to prostitutes and this was supposed to be a huge insult? Wew, if they were alive today they'd kill themselves.
So? I'm not a socialist so I don't really care what some old socialists thought. Even if I was a socialist, just because those people thought those things doesn't make them right.

>Fucking retarded neoliberals pushing for the commercialisation of sex
I'm not "pushing" for it. I'm not saying more people should be sex workers. I'm just saying that if they make that choice they shouldn't be shamed for it because it's their business and they're not hurting anybody else.

>Wait until your girlfriend has to blow some rich faggots for spare change and if you're against this all of society will mock you for it.
So I should prefer that my girlfriend die of hunger instead of blowing some rich faggot? I don't really get your point here. It's sad if anyone has to do things they don't want to do just so they have money to survive. But the problem here is poverty, not sex work.

>>14984043
What's so bad about porn?

>>14984154
Imagine defending prostitution and this cuckoldry. Liberals need to be lined up against a wall and shot, I don't even care who I have to support to make this happen. I won't fucking argue with you since there's nothing we'd ever agree on, not even agree to disagree on.

Sit on my face Jaiden.

>>14983818
i dont care if someone wants to sell their body how does this negatively affect me or anyone else

>>14981809
That is fucking bullshit. The people who say they hate reading because they were forced to in school would never have picked up a classic on their own accord.
It was a compulsory reading in school that showed me how wonderful literature could be.

Liking to read Harry Potter when you are eleven is not liking to read, these people would have either stopped reading or keep swallowing YA shit all their lives. At least they read five non shitty books in their lives because school forced them to.

>>14984222
Good argument for slavery desu.

>>14983818
Wouldn't it make more sense to compare prostitutes to abused animals than to animal abusers in your example? Shaming a dog for getting beaten doesn't really stop the conditions that got a dog beaten.

>>14984225
this

>>14980610
>>14981809
It really does kill the desire to read, especially now that I'm in college and still continually forced to read specified readings. The subjects I'm actually interested in (archaeology and anthropology) are fun to read about but reading anything else assigned is draining.

>>14984225
When I was 11 I enjoyed reading about myths and legends and, yes, some YA books (but I actually never read Harry Potter until I was around 15). Reading things like the Odyssey, MacBeth, and To Kill a Mockingbird was enjoyable, what wasn't enjoyable was being tied to deadlines and due dates where you were forced to memorize and spit out arbitrary details regarding the text with the looming threat of your future being at stake. It was nervewracking.
I read Grendel once on my own accord when it was brought up while reading Beowulf in my sophomore year and I loved it.

>>14984229
terrible argument
keyword is "wants"
the definition of slavery is being forced to do labor

>>14984271
>I went to cooking school and now I have no desire to cook.
>I went to driving school and now I have no desire to drive.
>I went to electrical school and now I have no desire to wire anything
And so on.

Stop making excuses for being stupid. It's ok to be stupid, just so long as you don't vote. Being forced to read stuff for class is not soul-draining, and if it truly does bother you then you should drop out. If baseline coursework utterly defeats you then you ought to consider whether or not college or any sort of intellectual pursuit is worth your limited mental resources.

>>14984225
furthermore, reading is not merely for the love of reading, like you're eternally a 7 year old when you read Kant. Reading is ultimately hard work, your time is limited, and occasionally you will have to show that you understand what you read. All of this is necessary to teach in school whether it hurts your feels or not.

>>14984327
All those schools listed are ones you choose to go to. You are not forced into it. highschool lit classes are forced upon you without consent. I too fucking hate stupid people, but angsty hormonal teenagers forced to read to kill a mockingbird seems like a recipe for everyone to have a bad time.

>>14984300
Wow, anon, the entire school system wasn't organized around you? Your teachers had standards and deadlines? Man, that's terrible. How did you survive?

>>14984325
>the definition of slavery is being forced to do labor
No it isn't.

>>14984358
can you tell me what the definition is then?

>>14984349
Quit being such a reductive faggot. Amerimutt schools suck for the vast majority of people.

>>14984343
The arguments are the same, was the point. Looks like you really do hate reading.

>>14984358
>slavery is ownership of another person
>ownership allows the owner to determine the activities of the slave
>property can either be owned or leased
>modern "wage slavery" is only a partially correct term
>the contractual obligation for 1/3 of a day of labor in exchange for sustaining life amounts to renting one's self out
>during this 1/3 of the day the employer determines the activities of the employee
>modern contractual labor is perpetual temporary slavery

>>14984327
But anon, those are vocational schools you choose to go to. The generalized educational system removes any agency of choice from someone and enforces broad sweeping and strict guidelines that inhibit people from actually being able to express things.
I was told by my high school English teacher that I was wrong when I said that The Metamorphosis was probably an analogy for mental illness or another ostracizing aspect of a person's behavior rather than Samsa literally turning into a bug. I had another English teacher tell me I was "wrong" for correctly deducing that John Winthrop's "City on a Hill" speech was intended to invoke Israel and the plight of the biblical Hebrews because I was "taking information from outside the lesson."
American highschools just suck.

>>14984365
Yeah, those awful American schools with their deadlines and book learnin' and reading. No other school system on the planet has any of those things.

>>14984384
But anon, the argument is exactly the same. Blaming school for killing your interest in something is the surest sign of stupidity.

I'm sorry you had bad experiences in one class in one school. Is your interest in reading gone or can you admit encountering a moron or two isn't all that shocking and is really unimportant?

>>14984384
My landlords are friends with one of my high school english teachers from a decade ago. I remember we read letter from a Birmingham jail and a modest proposal. She gets shitfaced and tells me she passed me because I was "smart but a lazy piece of shit."


Fun times.

>>14984364
There are many forms of slavery, broadly it means the ownership of people. Some sold themselves into slavery willingly historically. I don't see how you can argue there's anything wrong with it, I mean it doesn't hurt anyone else and doesn't affect you personally. And even if it did if some slut shamed you for thinking there was something wrong you'd simp the fuck out and accept it as normal and moral.

>>14984300
This is one of the hardest copes I have ever seen. Trying to rationalize the lack of attention span, imagination or whatever needed to enjoy literature.

Nah dude people who don't like reading wouldn't like it any more if they weren't forced to read in highschool. They would like it even less probably.
I understand kids not liking the compulaory books, but if an adult can't even skim through the blandest, easiest classics that are understandable even for highschoolers then that person is fucking retarded.

>>14984426
>some
the reason slavery is called slavery in modern times is because 99% of people who were ever enslaved did not want to become slaves. if you accept the term as 'ownership of people', then by your logic a workplace or a household is slavery.
if someone willingly 'sold themselves into slavery', in their times the official term for it could be slavery, but the objectively correct term would be 'willingly doing labor'

>>14980486
Tbqh, school killed my desire to read for a few years but I was also a petulant little cunt with no taste. I remember telling my English teacher that Tess of D'urbervilles was trash because there wasn't an explicit rape scene. I cringe when I remember that. Also aside from some really solid teachers that fight for it (that guy was one of them), most English teachers will shovel trash at you like Ayn Rand and slavery/Halocaust narratives where the lesson is "Well that wasn't very good, now was it?". Anyone who was going to read will inevitably come back to it.
>>14981758
Ellis does read, but she subscribes to the concept that the Canon is racist because white men chose it so she tries to be a cunty hipster about what she reads so she can complain that nobody knows about it.

>>14984475
>if you accept the term as 'ownership of people', then by your logic a workplace or a household is slavery.
No, it's not their property legally and they don't have to care for them. A workplace is where you rent your ass out, a household is just your own shit and not even work. Slavery is selling your ass.

Doesn't really matter if it's done willingly or not, still doesn't impact you. Why would you care?

>>14983400
God forbid we talk about books for more than five fucking minutes. Fuck yourself for ruining this thread with your meme shit. Sex workers are wretched slags either way.

>>14984503
it doesn't impact me sure, but it hurts someone. if someone willingly sells their body for labor, that isn't slavery

>>14980486
Yes, they read my messages but don't reply

>>14980486
25-50 year old white women are the only demographic that reads in significant numbers

>>14984517
>if someone willingly sells their body for labor, that isn't slavery
Good, I look forward to buying you when the economy tanks, you're out of a job and slavery is legalised again.

Yes but mostly trash, so not really.

>>14984777
isn't that just finding a new job?

>>14983783
disagree the books women read aren't usually complicated or involved plots. consider a male book like yeah and a girl book like yeah but one word does go for the better for the other. you just gotta think about it. tired of plot haters, prose are good too but plot is just as good, or maybe not i don't know.

>>14984994
Yes, as my footrest.

>>14984785
This just tells me that men don't read at all, because you can't see the difference in quantity between the genres. Only 4 genres are slightly topped by men and 2 of those are autistic cape shit

>>14985250
wooooah...its like men are rational and women emotional...

>>14984785
only four of those categories matter: history, literature, classics, and philosophy--and women outnumber men in 3/4

>>14983237
Best answer in this thread.

>>14980486
Nope

They just buy hundreds of YA novels and then make a youtube channel to show off the fact that they have a bunch of books

>>14983237
Based.

>>14983889
For prose to be good it must contain good ideas.

>>14981809
Now THIS is joker-posting.

Gang-weeders rise up

>>14984386
Faggot piece of shit, you're just happy because homosexual shit-eating faggot sex is compulsory in school now.
How dare they, says you, how dare they insult school today!
you fucking kike

>>14981707
rule 30

>>14980610
I can get behind this thread of logic. Was supposed to read 'The Grapes of Wrath' for 11th grade summer reading, but instead bullshitted my way through the assignment. Not 5 years later when I choose to read it, I loved it.

>>14980486
I want to have anal sex with Jaiden.

>>14983818
They already get murdered in disproportionately high numbers, that's consequence enough.

>>14980486
Yeah, but like the men who read, they don't browse /lit/.
>>14984785
Goodreads isn't really a good indication, since the website itself is more popular with women.

>>14985260
>men aren't emotional
men actually believe this

>>14981809
>i swear im a lowkey genius bro, if i wanted to try in school i would have gotten a 4.0 GPA and all as, schools just a prison though bro
Sure, keep coping. But we all know deep down you're just another retard.

>>14989268
Doing well in school doesn't say much about your intelligence, it more demonstrates your ability to balance workload and understand what is expected of you (which are also valuable traits).

>>14989280
>woah, i'm forced to show that i'm actually learning by taking tests in school that require knowledge of the subject that i'm learning? no way man, that isn't REAL intelligence!
You don't know what intelligence means you midwit pseud. You're a fucking retard with the mental capacity of a fucking ape.

>>14989268
keep fucking crying

>>14984225
You hit the nail on the head.

>>14983748
>if it doesnt """hurt"""" anybody you can do what ever you want and theres no consequences to society hurrrduurrr

>>14989314
>I-I-ISWEAR I WOULD HAVE HAD A 4.0 GPA II-I-I-IF I CARED! I'M JUST SO COOL AND TOO INTELLIGENT FOR SCHOOL, TRUST ME! K-K-KEEP CRYING, SCHOOL I-ISN'T REAL INTELLIGENCE!!!
This level of cognitive dissonance is simply astounding. I doubt you have internal monologue or self awareness, literally mental gymnastics to cope for the fact you aren't any smarter than a nigger

>>14989280
>akshually, a test only measures your ability to take a test
Smart people breeze through school, midwits juggle. Guess you’ve been outed.

>>14981809
I know this is bait but there's a reason classics are compulsory in schools. If you don't like them, chances are the shit you'd read out of own accord is not particularly good and would therefore not impact you positively.

>>14989333
you realize you're having an argument with a made up person, right? Nobody said anything about being smart.

>>14989343
>w-well actually i-i never said i was smart.. checkmate!
Unironically kill yourself fucking retard.

>>14989351

>>14989365
Nice meme. He buried you.

>>14989332
School is a joke. Everyone breezes through
except the clinically retarded and 'troubled'. It's what makes people who take pride in the grades they got as a teenager pathetic.

>>14989291
>blindly regurgitating facts makes me smart

>not reading to pick up /lit/ chicks
Plen

>>14980486
yes, but they don't understand

>>14981729
Fifty Shades is ironically the opposite of rape culture. He actually makes her sign a contract to show consent. With an iota of self awareness it is however basically a poor girl whoring herself out to a multimillionaire

>>14984785
>science fiction is 50% 50%
This goes against all empirical evidence

>>14980486
Why the FUCK would you care about a girl saying she doesn't like reading on the Internet ? This isn't the first time I see this video posted here, what the fuck is wrong with you people ?

>>14984154
>But plenty of people want to be sex workers and they certainly don't find it degrading
You don't get to decide what is healthy for your body/psyche. Nature dictates that such behaviour (sex work) is detrimental to one's mental health.

>>14981809
>>14980610
Okay let's be fucking real here, I'm on the older end of the spectrum of /lit/ posters at 23, and in highschool I didn't read ANY of my assigned readings. Sparknotes was already a thing, I could get away with reading maybe a page or two to lift a direct quote when I was making a point in a paper. No fucking highschool students are laboriously pouring over tomes assigned by their English teachers. Not only do a million analyses exist on the internet for any book getting assigned in highschool, the books are literally shit like The Hunger Games now. I was assigned The Hunger Games in grade 10. All the young people who claim highschool stole their love of reading are just infantile complainers who couldn't get over the fact they had to read something they didn't choose themselves. And again, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO READ these fucking books! I just didn't read the books I didn't want to read, I went to sparknotes and got 90%+ on everything I wrote. Expectations are so fucking low.

>>14984785
>The{}wall

>>14989558
>older end of the spectrum of /lit/ posters at 23

>>14989558
>I'm on the older end of the spectrum of /lit/ posters at 23
lol no

>>14984785
This is a stupid metric. Women love social media way more than men do, and narcissism in women is essentially a pandemic in the West. Of course women think people care about their opinions enough to post reviews for books on Goodreads.

>>14989568
>>14989575
Yes. This place has been overrun by highschoolers and university freshmen for years. The fact threads on actual literature have become all but extinct is testament to this.

>>14989582
Yeah, but that's mostly thanks to ESLs and midwits in their mid twenties.

>>14980486
Yes, they do.

>>14980502
They read smut like nora roberts

>>14989558
I'm 30 and everyone did this in high school when I went. it's more than young people that can't use this "my eyes were molested" excuse. People like to cope and lie to themselves. The lying builds up the task in their head to where they'll never do it.

>>14989473
Exactly. What why the meme is ironic and not literal. It's a meme.

>>14983237
n-pbp

>>14981809
>A lot of people stop reading when they reach the age where they want to have sex and can develop a social life that isn't dominated by their parents
Imagine that
The answer is that most people stop caring about reading when they get caught up in the rat race of socialization and stop being content spending their free time in isolated activities with no social benefit. They didn't stop because they were too intelligent to read a 300 page best seller for their English class and that one experience killed their interest in literature forever

Most goodreads users are women
like 80% of them

>>14983237
Uhhhhh, based department lead manager? You're needed immediately.

>>14989331
What are these consequences to society and why are they bad?

>>14989532
>Nature dictates that such behaviour (sex work) is detrimental to one's mental health.
Then why would you shame the sex workers if they're the ones being harmed? Not to mention, you're free to harm yourself within reason (i.e. excluding things like suicide and whatnot). Smoking causes way more death and suffering than prostitution but I'm sure you're not out there shaming smokers.

>>14989335
its not bait you fucking retard, I bet you dont read poetry because youre a fucking spectator

>>14989373
>pretending to be a different anon to construct illusory support
Pathetic

Actually I think her video is a really good indictment of millennial/zoomer culture in general and not just specific to women.

Basically she admits that anytime she tries to do something that requires too much attention or isolation she starts to feel sad so she immediately resorts to playing videogames or watching youtube. This is like all the millennials and zoomers who have lowest common denominator bullshit like The Office playing on their television at all times because "it's comfy to have on in the background." God forbid you have to actually be alone with your feelings for two fucking minutes or expend a little bit of emotional and mental energy in the pursuit of something genuine. Better to distract yourself with a constant flood of noisy colorful bullshit than confront your any type of meaning in the world.

>>14990294
>What are these consequences to society and why are they bad?
pick up a Bible and find out

>>14990892
God will flood us all again?

>>14989859
>The only purpose in life is sex.
>Also implying that great literature and nonfiction books can't teach you about human nature.
>Probably doesn't read books.

Hi buddy. How'd you find your way to /lit/?

>>14980486
Yeah? What else do you think old women do? It seems people are most invested in learning new things at an older age, especially in free time. It's only young and middle-aged women who read shit like fifty shades. It's also why old people travel more. New experiences are more appealing to old people. Young people don't tend to be into reading cause school shoves shite books down their throats

>>14987696
Yeah, was gonna say, the prose in that book might be the best ever written in the english language.

Who cares, it's not like their opinions on literature hold any value.
>Muh female perspectiv-
fuck off

>>14990796
Zoomer here. Am addicted to distractions. It's a real problem and it's going to be our generations neurosis.

>>14991761
Most of the zoomers I've met have been compassionate and bitterly funny, but don't know shit about anything other than broad neoliberal politics of the past 4 years. But I don't blame them. I was a stupid teenager too shitposting here back in 05.

>>14984225
T H I S
H I
I H
S I H T

>>14984225
The thing is people aren't forced to read books in school. They're given books, then given assignments and quizzes to prove that they can reference the book, bullshit questions like, "On page 58 what did the masked man say about CIA's coat when he walked in the room". Technically you'd have to have read the book to be able to answer that, but what ends up happening is people just scan for the portion of text that answers their question and that's it. I actually bothered to do the assigned reading, sometimes I'd actually finish a whole book in one night, but I'd still have to look forwards of weeks of, "Do you remember this insignificant detail on page 100 of this 150 page long book that for god knows what reason takes two months of daily classes to cover".

>>14983237
Fuckin yeah man.

>>14990506
Fill your mouth with shit.

>>14981809
>i like to read but not really
is like I'm lazy but smart

>>14991973
>"Do you remember this insignificant detail on page 100 of this 150 page long book that for god knows what reason takes two months of daily classes to cover".

Get real. Questions like this are almost never asked in an English classroom, and, if they are, it's asked by the teacher the class after an assigned reading in order to demonstrate a literary device.

They really ask questions like:
>Outline the plot of The Odyssey and explain how each part can be considered in the "Hero's Journey."
>"Analyze the symbolism in this passage from Heart of Darkness [the passage is given] and, using only the language in this passage, try to discern the author's attitude towards European imperialism in the 19th century"
>"Using what you have learned about poetic devices, analyze this poem [the poem is given] and how these devices contribute to the overall meaning"

English education almost never consists of rote memorization, unless it's a vocabulary test.

>>14980486
Yes, but not for the reasons that make it commendable in the first place.

>>14984225
Yea being forced to read shit that didn't interest me and have it taught by subpar teachers didn't make me hate reading, just school. I would just sit in the back of the class reading something that interested me, or not show up.

>>14980486
ACHOO

Asking if women read is like asking if someone that watches movies enjoys artistic cinema. Sure, they do, but they don't usually go for the good stuff.

>>14995160
>Children books bad

Found the retard

>>14980486
probably more than the average male

>>14980486
yes they read far more than men, all smut though

Nothing past what you can buy in a grocery store.

>>14989335
>chances are the shit you'd read out of own accord is not particularly good and would therefore not impact you positively.
Do you think students read those books? They either skim the book through to finish the assignment or look answers from internet or somewhere else. Those books don't stay in their mind.

>>14980512

And men read pic related and books by Jeremy Clarkson

>>14980610

To be fair, if you are having hard times "deciphering" basic themes and it feels like a chore, maybe the person is too stupid for reading

>>14984785
>politics

That could account for all the books by reactionaries or fox news hosrs that shit on women.

>>14994564
testing

Atlas Shrugged. Read and be healed.

>>14980513
Hahahahahah no they fucking don't

>>14985268
If you don't know religions, you don't know much.

>>14992398
HAAHHAHAHAHA KILL YOURSELF ALREADY. PATHETIC FAGGOT

>>14983748
>Literally every guy in the world consumes some type of content stemming from sex work, so it's hypocritical
massive projection

>>14984225
I agree with you but a lot of this comes down to the specific teachers and assignments. Assigned reading in school should be a good way to introduce younger people to deeper ideas in more classic literature but it often feels like a chore not because of the book itself but because of the teachers. In one class we had to read classic works and leave a sticky note about something important that we observed on EVERY SINGLE PAGE. It killed the narrative momentum and immersion of every single book we had to read because we got to the end of each page and had to stop and think of some bullshit to write down just to appease the teacher. It was horrible and prevented me from enjoying several books that I'm sure I would have liked otherwise.

>>14980486
No.
>t. women

>>14989201
What book website is more popular with men? Inb4 /lit/.

Girls don't read because women are theoretical spirit-nullifying golems devised by ethereal freespace aliens to destroy humanity's potential for transcendence. Every sentient species in the Prime universe has a vitalist life-affirmation drive that points toward ascension as its entelechy, which means that, eventually, vital forces will surmount mere physicality and break through into higher realms, with unknown consequences for the eternal silence of those spheres, which are maintained by the steady, low-level thrumming of bounded and base intelligences. Creatures that feed and thrive on that silence want to maintain their habitus at all costs, so they send tendrils of noetical shit into our reality and subtly pollute the fourth aitia or telos of every species as soon as its inner light is visible from beyond. For humans, it is as natural to develop our Consciousness into Spirit as it is for other animals to follow their own instincts. The primary instinct of our umwelt is self-transcendence and self-perfection, so we fit into boundlessness as well as a dolphin fits into its own bounded quiddity of swimming and eating fish. The only way to stop this is to introduce detours and channels that disperse our potential. It's painful for the aliens to be in our reality, so they spend very long times devising the most economical investments of their ability to influence Prime space in order to achieve maximum results. They are more attuned to the pure Pythagorean substructural "morphe" than to graven "hyle," so their knowledge of how to follow variable "trees" of chaos is much greater than ours, who have the reverse tendency. In our case, they reached into the molecular structure of our genetic code, probably around the time we developed abstract thought, and rearranged the female genotype to make sure that any given woman's pure soul has an obstruction. They economically coopted existing structures and features, like fatty deposits, pleasure, and romantic love, and elegantly deformed them in just such a way as to cause a resonance cascade. On the individual level, instead of being born (as men) with pure souls, women are now born with a soul that has a big piece of meat stapled to it. Through an entropic transmission that is an insult to the inner purpose of all Prime life, women become Meat rather than Soul. They speak as Meat, live as Meat, think as Meat. Their animal instincts, subsumed into an enspirited Consciousness in the male human, become the locus of their transcendental apperception. On the social level, this creates an inescapable eddy which drags men into its centre of gravity. As animals, as Meat, women naturally tend toward communal instincts, and the atomised and rarefied individual men are dragged one by one into the orbit of Pussy. The spiritual system of humanity flattens out and deforms, its peaks and leaps become more and more uniform, it distends and denatures into waves and fluid dynamics rather than a sparking flame.

>>14995833
men read self-help and shitty pop history

>>14997467
What the hell did I just read...oh well

>>14981809
Lol at the assblasted undergrad replies to this.

>>14997335
>leave a sticky note about something important that we observed on EVERY SINGLE PAGE.
God, that's such a retarded assignment and yet you just know that she was so fucking proud of it. I bet she (or he, I suppose) talked a big game about it during department meetings.

>>14989505
The video's only a few days old, this is the first thread I've seen on this video. Maybe it's just Americans starting threads on it that die before Europe wakes up

>>14998115
I appreciate your effortposting, but I stand by the idea that tv can never be /lit/ and there's never an instance where one should be reading instead of watching a show.