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Trojans > Greeks

Prove me wrong.

>> No.14956578

>>14956569
>Prove me wrong.
They lost.

>> No.14956582

>academia thought the Trojan war was a myth for decades until they discovered the ruins
Atlantis is real

>> No.14956597

>>14956582
Source?

>> No.14956624

>>14956597
Would Plato lie?

>> No.14956629

>>14956582
There was probably a war that happened at Troy, but it wasn't the Trojan war as recalled in the Iliad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_VII

>> No.14957110

>>14956569
Hector was based.

Achilles was a whining Mary Sue cuck.

>> No.14957116

>>14956629
Suuure. And Homer was 1000 different persons. Just like Troy's pure fiction.

>> No.14957143

>>14957116
Are you incapable of conceiving of things being neither absolutely true or false?

>> No.14957168

>>14957143
Name a single such thing

>> No.14957169

>>14957110
hector was a pussy who should have been killed a million times but got saved by gods every time

>> No.14957180

Odysseus gang rise up

>> No.14957181

>>14957169
Bro achilles cried to mommy about literally everything

>> No.14957201

>>14957110
and fuck the bitch godess who plotted against hector.

>> No.14957226

>>14957110
This.

There's probably no greater person than Hector, except maybe Aeneas.

Also, fuck Achilles, I'm glad he was killed by Paris.

>> No.14957244

>>14956569
One thing I like about the Iliad is that there are heroes in both sides. Neither side is "good" or "evil". We apparently can't have that in modern culture, possibly to Jewish influence and WWII mythos, one side always needs to be the absolute evil that must be exterminated. Even Star Wars pays lip service to the notion that there needs to be a "balance" of the force, but that is not true in practice. In practice the light side must win and the dark annihilated.

>> No.14957252

>>14956569
Homer does kind of portray Hector, his family and Priam as really cool dudes while Greeks are almost universally shown to be selfish, greedy, cheaters and petty
>>14956629
Your source literally makes the connection between Troy VIIa and the Trojan war which is only further strengthened as more archaeological excavations are made. Obviously most of the mythical shit and the Trojan horse were false but judging by archaeology and the immediate aftermaths of the war, it was most likely a war between Some kind of Greek confederation and Troy
Just because the real Gilgamesh didn't have the powers of the mythical version doesn't mean the connection is wrong

>> No.14957287

Why /ourgay/ Heraclitus hated Homer so much? Was Iliad truly unbased and bluepilled?

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>>14956582
Doggerland, Eye of Sahara, Scandinavia, etc. – which one are you thinking?

>> No.14957403

>>14957168
This thread
dif anon

>> No.14957704

>>14957181
nigga im not defending achilles. aias and diomedes are my niggas