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14952585 No.14952585 [Reply] [Original]

The Analytic and Continental divide is purely stylistic

>> No.14952600

All footnotes to Kant anyway

>> No.14953166

>>14952600
Many to hegel as well.

>> No.14953172

>>14952585
analytic has the method, continental have the ideas

>> No.14953176

>>14952585
The difference is down to methodology, in the sense that Analytic philosophy has one.

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>>14952600
>>14953166
the philosophic singularity

>> No.14953185

>>14953172
Continental philosophy has no ideas. Just platitudes wrapped in purple prose.

>> No.14953207

>>14953185
can you please convert this assertion into a symbolic language and then derive a proof of it? you're wasting my time otherwise

>> No.14953220

>>14953207
>t. has no idea what analytic philosophy is

>> No.14953238

>>14953220
I'm going to take that to mean you can't do symbolic logic, which unfortunately means you can't actually understand analytic philosophy

>> No.14953659

>>14952585
I don't care how autistic it is, but I just love the feel of high analytic philosophy around mid-century. Ayer's exchanges with Austin over the viability of the sense datum theory, and how it was side-tracked into the significance of technical terms and how different philosophical programs can amount to the adoption of different vocabularies for different purposes is a great example. The points are so fine that there is an exquisite pleasure to truly understanding them, and they sort of gently untie the confusions of philosophy very slowly, and liberate you step by tiny step. It's like a puzzle you've been subject to all your life slowly unweaving, or like every day your lungs have a bit more capacity after a lifetime of breathing like a smoker. The feeling is utterly delectable, so minute, yet so far-reaching.

>> No.14953722

>>14953238
>projecting this hard

>> No.14953793

>>14953659
Link please?

>>14953185
>>14953172
Both have the ideas. Analytic's method replaces the purple prose.

>> No.14953810

>>14953793
I've never heard of a single contribution to philosophy made by the continentals. They don't even bother tackling the classic problems of knowledge, causation, modality, etc. They just kind of spin their wheels, dropping buzzwords and misused terminology from science.

>> No.14953859

Does continental philosophy actually create anything of value, or does it just criticize existing ideas?

>> No.14953889

>>14952585

Which is one is actually more autistic? Analytic or continental?

>> No.14953904

>>14953810
>I've never heard
Sucks to be you, bud.

>> No.14953911

>>14953889
Autistic? Analytic
Depressed, paranoid, and schizophrenic? Continental

>> No.14953915

>>14953911
Continentals should stay on r9k

>> No.14953916

>>14953810
A continental could easily say they have never heard of a contribution to philosophy by analytics.
Also there are plenty of contemporary continental philosophers who engage with the classic problems

>> No.14953958

>>14953916
No, they couldn't. That's exactly the different. Analytics philosophers have made thousands of contributions that advance the ball. The writings of continentals are remarkably free of content.

>> No.14954090

>>14953958
What the fuck do you mean
A continental could say how continentals are the ones who advance the ball, look at freud, nietzche, marx, husserl, heidegger, then how the "ball moved" into the postmarxists, the contemporary post-continentals (like land or moynihan), the psychoanalysts.

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>>14952585
Honestly I feel like a lot of people who study and read continental philosophy, like most of the people in this board, would appreciate the essays written by analytic philosophers especially if they involve little use of symbols

>> No.14954305

>>14953220
>>14953722
go laugh at a fart witty no one cares

>> No.14954319

>>14954090
Among the people you listed, only Heidegger is a continental. And his work is a whole lot of nothing. Marx wrote clearly and rigorously, which is all analytic philosophy really is.

>> No.14954322

>>14954305
Go back to >>>/b/, brainlet.

>> No.14954326

>>14952585
the ‘divide’ doesn’t exist except as a polemical distinction invented by smug anglos.

>> No.14954334

>>14954326
Only correct poster in this thread. And I'm a smug anglo, so I should know.

>> No.14954343

Wittgenstein is a typical Jewish "philosopher": the goy thinks he's actually reading something meaningful, but behind the smokescreen of scientific rigor there are plenty of winks sent at the Chosen People. The color red - a key Jewish symbol - appears at the very beginning of the Tractatus. Then you get all the bits about atomism. Here, once again, the reader is clueless unless he knows that atomism is a code word for Adam, the mythical first Jew. And then comes the infamous "silence" ending. Silence is a huge theme in Judaism: it goes back to the prophets, hearing the voice of Yahwe etc. Tons of writings by Derrida, Levinas, Adorno, Beckett etc - all Jews - have tackled this "silence" business.

>> No.14954350

>>14954326
"Continental" is just a euphemism for non-philosophy. It's an attempt at civility by real philosophers, as if the nonsensical babble coming out of France were just another "type". So in a way, it's the opposite.of smug. It's overgenerous.

>> No.14954357

>>14954343
Go back to >>>/x/, schizo.

>> No.14954374

>>14954357

Even Russel made fun of Wittg's 'mysticism'. Too bad he didn't specify that this mysticism was of a very peculiar brand.

>> No.14954934

>>14953185
>platitudes wrapped in purple prose

how continental

>> No.14955443

>>14952585
Are there any philosophers that are both analytic and continental?

>> No.14955557

>>14954090
All they'd be claiming is that the discourse changed several times. None of them could list an actual contribution even if they tried.

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>>14954350
t. definitely smug

>> No.14955622

>>14953793
>Link please?

Ayer, A. J. (1967). Has Austin refuted the sense-datum theory? Synthese 17: 117-140.

It's on sci-hub.

>> No.14955629

>>14953916
>Also there are plenty of contemporary continental philosophers who engage with the classic problems
name 5

>> No.14955633

>>14954343
Kys

>>14954357
His "mysticism" was similar to that of a catholic priest. Read more, unless it would be too intense to contradict your worldview in which go back /x

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>>14955443
Kant, Hegel, Sellars, Witty, Rorty, and Badiou.

>> No.14955731

>>14954319
I agree very strongly about what you said about marx, but everyone I listed are commonly referred to as continental philosophers, also how can you say heidegger is the only true continental and leave out nietzche? He is almost a perfect example of a continental philosopher