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Refuted by Whitehead (PBUH).

>>14912474
This is for discussion of traditionalism and the magazine. Please find another thread to meme at.

>>14912474
based!

>>14912635
what is based?

>>14912474
exceedingly based my ol' chap.

>>14912746
are you under the influence?

>>14912501
fuck you faggot

>>14913346
what is your problem with this magazine exactly?

bump

Do not respond to the hylics in this thread brothers.
We must "remain carefully aloof from all controversy" as Guenon himself did.
The first magazine was based. But we need more stuff. I am writing a special piece about Guenon. It will take some time but it will be good. I may send it to the magazine. I may publish it myself. I may do both.
Lastly, we need to bring Londonfrog into the light of Guenon. Only Guenon (pbuh) can save this young man from the crisis of the modern world.
Peace be upon the brothers. Peace be upon Guenon.

>>14913800
based

>>14913800
holy based... this has inspired me to sing. Listen brothers...

Verses of Guénon (pbuh), lively concepts
Begotten from the soul of my worries,
Flowering from my most sincere embraces,
Born from pain more than liberty.

Abandoned to the world we lost,
With Guénon (pbuh),I know where
To walk: by the steps of Wisdom.

Since Guénon has stolen the labyrinth from Crete,
From Daedalus his high thoughts,
The fury from the sea, the flames from the abyss,
Always shall he be, with the One, Guénon (pbuh),
of Prometheus, reincarnate.

>>14913893
irrefutably based....

>>14912474
the avnglo bvll

based........

A reminder to my brothers... It is pointless to argue with any detractors. A logical proof means nothing in the face of intuitive apprehension of truth. Those who claim to have "refuted" Guenon are nothing but delusional hylics. Their knowledge is like the light of the Moon, cold, second hand, and easily blocked by any passing cloud. Our knowledge is like the Sun itself, dazzlingly bright, visible to all who dare look towards the heavens, and capable of piercing through any cloud

Philosophy is over. Finished. Guenon has defeated that beast once and for all. All that is left now is for us to discuss his teachings, study the sacred texts, and one day join a traditional order ourselves.
I wish peace on all my brother's, and a swift death to those who oppose Tradition.

>>14912474
cringe

>>14913800
Based

>>14913893
>>14913984
BASED

Why are these threads so based lately? They keep getting better and better

>>14913986
Our numbers are increasing once again. We will soon be the mysterious group of intellectual elites that control this board, in the same way Guenon wished to form such a group to control the world.
In the coming weeks our influence will grow to heights never seen before.... But we must work tirelessly for this to come about..... Make threads brothers. Make posts..... Ignore the hylics, defend your brothers.... We must rise once more to the throne we once occupied on this board......
Peace be upon Guenon....

Once once once, the three that make one. The one that makes three.... Peace be upon this post......

So I got memed into reading Intro to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines. This long face mother fucker says that Hindus do not believe in reincarnation. Wtf?

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>>14914034
The joy within me my soul... I cannot contain...
The Guénonian Renaissance is upon us brothers...

>>14914054
Not in the sense that westerns think of reincarnation... Read symbolism of the cross and you will be initiated into the truth.... We only pass through the human state once... And then move on to other states, or if we become enlightened, we return to the Principle..... There are countless states other than the human one with which we are familiar, unimaginable different states... This is but one grain of sand on the beach of being..... Peace be upon you, brother....

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>>14913893
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>>14914073

You do realise you are a mentally ill narc right?

Guenon and his traditionalism are just another antiwestern leftwing movement that tries to disquis itself as something rightwing.

>>14914084
Leave your worldly affairs outside of this intemporal discussion of Guenon (pbuh)...
The worries of our times do not concern that which is eternal...
Seek the light brother...

>>14914105
>Leave your worldly affairs outside of this intemporal discussion of Guenon (pbuh)...
>The worries of our times do not concern that which is eternal...
>Seek the light brother...

thou shalt never sleep in the arms of a sorceress,
lest she should lock thy limbs;

So shall she charm that thou shalt not heed
the council, or words of the king,
nor care for thy food, or the joys of mankind,
but fall into sorrowful sleep.

>>14914084
Brother I feel your anger.... It is only natural in the Kali Yuga for men to feel such things..... But ask yourself... What is left wing and right wing? The hylics will have you believe that they are two separate paths diverging before you on the path of progress.... Once you read Guenon you will realise that they are nothing but two different servings of the same poisoned dish....
There are only two options available to us today.... Materialism and Tradition......
I hope you make the correct choice brother.... We will be here always to guide you on your quest......

>>14914124
Why dont you meditate on these verses, instaid of jabbering like a loon.

>There are only two options available to us today.... Materialism and Tradition......
Where does that quote from Havamal fit?

Based

>>14914138
We offer wisdom... They ask for arguments.... We offer brotherhood.... They ask for strife.... We offer salvation.....they ask for reddit points..... Truly a dark age brothers.... We must pray for the hylics ....

How's the second issue coming along?

>>14914054
Guénon (pbuh) is correct, as always

Reincarnation as normally understood is the idea that the personified soul-essence of Bob was actually Napoleon or Cleopatra etc in their past lives and that this soul essence which is you continues from life to life while remaining the same "you" with the same values, tendencies etc. What is actually taught in the Upanishads according to the Hindu school of Advaita Vedanta that Guénon (pbuh) mostly writes from the perspective of is transmigration i.e. the Supreme Godhead remains as immutable and unborn and never actually reincarnates but is the inner Self and Awareness animating all living beings and that the only things that transmigrate are unreal illusory creations of God's magician-like power. The subtle body, in which the mind inheres is the object that transmigrates from body to body, but the Godhead who is the inner Self animating that subtle body and mind observing them as their inner awareness never actually transmigrates. All the things which make up "you" as a person such as your emotions, values, memories, proclivities are based on the conditions of your current life and karmic influences from past lives but are not any sort of stable or permanent identity/soul whatsoever.

The actual "soul" which is always there at all times in all the lives and which is eternal and which is the true "you" is the Self, which is the Supreme Godhead, whose essential nature is immutable bliss and which is completely free from all such attributes that we might consider to the components of our personalities or identities. In enlightenment and spiritual liberation the subtle body and our personas as individual beings with such and such traits are revealed to be unreal illusions (created by the Supreme Godhead's power of maya) and vanish, leaving God alone as the thing that was always really existing all along and as the only thing that will ever exist. The major difference with the regular conception of reincarnation in the west is that the soul in the Hindu conception bears little resemblance to what people regularly imagine to be the soul to be which reincarnates in the standard western conception of reincarnation.

>>14914310
Coomaraswamy wrote an essay on this exact topic

Sankaracarya’s dictum, ‘Verily, there is no other transmigrant but the Lord’ (satyam, nesvarad anyah samsari, BrSBh, 1.1.5) startling as it may appear to be at first sight, for it denies the reincarnation of individual essences, is amply supported by the older, and even the oldest texts, and is by no means an exclusively Indian doctrine. For it is not an individual soul that Plato means when he says: ‘The soul of man is immortal, and at one time comes to an end, which is called dying away, and at another is born again, but never perishes .. . and having been born many times has acquired the knowledge of all and everything’; or that Plotinus means when he says: There is really nothing strange in that reduction (of all selves) to One; though it may be asked, How can there be only One, the same in many, entering into all, but never itself divided up; or by Hermes who says that ‘He who does all these things is One, and speaks of Him as ‘bodiless and having many bodies, or rather present in all bodies’. The ‘Lord’ of whom Sarikaracarya speaks is, of course, the Supreme and Solar Self, Atman, Brahma, Indra, of all beings Overlord, of all beings King’, whose omniformity is timeless and whose omnipresence enables us to understand that He must be omniscient (sarvanubhuh, BUt II.5. 19, cf. IV.4.22 and SA, XIII); Death, the Person in the Sun, Indra and Breath of Life, ‘One as he is Person there, and many as he is in his children here’, and at whose departure ‘we’ die (SB, X.5.2.13, 16); the Solar Self of all that is in motion or at rest (RV, 1.115.1); our Immortal Self and Inner Controller ‘other than whom there is no seer, hearer, thinker or knower' (BU, III.7.23, III.8.11); the solar Indra of whom it is said that whoever speaks, hears, thinks, etc., does so by his ray (JUB, 1.28. 29); Brahma, of whom it is said that our powers ‘are merely the names of his acts’ (BU, 1.4.7, cf. 1.5.21); the Self, from whom all action stems (BU, 1.6.3; BG, 111.15); the Self that knows everything (MU, VL7). Whether as Surya, Savitr, Atman, Brahma, Agni, Prajapati, Indra, Vayu or madhyama Prana-yadrgeva dadrse tadrg ucyate (RV, V.44.6)6—this Lord, from within the heart here, is our mover, driver and actuator and whole source of the evanescent consciousness u that begins with our birth and ends with our death (MU, II.6d, III. 3).12 We do nothing of ourselves and are merely his vehicles, and instruments (as for Philo, passim). This ‘higher’ (para) Brahma is that ‘One, the Great Self, who takes up his stand in womb after womb .. .as the omniform Lord of the Breaths'.

http://turiya.vidya.hu/konyvtar/pdf/On%20the%20One%20and%20Only%20Transmigrant.pdf

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>>14914327
This is cool and all but Hindus clearly believe in reincarnation. How am I supposed to take Guenon seriously when he says something so obviously false?

>>14914352
Those who are uninitiated...have an uninitiated view...

>>14914365
BASED

>>14914352
Some Hindus who have not studied their religious texts very closely may sometimes acquire the misunderstanding that their religion texts reincarnation in the western sense, but the main Hindu religious scriptures and many of the most influential Hindu schools themselves teach a concept which is actually very different from the western conception of reincarnation and is hence not reincarnation but transmigration, and it's this that Guénon (pbuh) is referring to

> so obviously false?
I just explained why it was not false but correct

>>14914382
The false statement is that Hindus do not believe in reincarnation. Saying that kind of torpedoes Guenon's claim to some kind of religious expertise.

>>14914409
Latent pedophilia too. Anyone who actually reads Aquinas can only stand to get through it with constant thoughts of raping altar boys as a reward for finishing it.

>>14914365
Based.....

>>14914409
>The false statement is that Hindus do not believe in reincarnation.
can you cite the passage in his (pbuh) book? Is he talking about what certain people believe or what the actual scriptures and traditional doctrines teach? I'm inclined to think you are twisting the wise master's words

I've unironically bought Crisis of the Modern world what am I in for?

>>14914463
a damn fine book and a masterful deconstruction of the fundamental assumptions underlying the modern world

>>14914463
You are in for an awakening... Based choice of book brother, peace be upon you.

Holy based..... I am crying...

holy b-b-b-b-based!

read evola after guenon

>>14915282
Larping as a kooky muslim mystic is fun, larping as a fascist not so much

>>14912462
lmfao.

>>14915507
>kooky muslim mystic
Holy based......Brothers.......I just.....I just cannot handle this........it is just too based to even fathom.......I'm balling my eyes out......my heart skipping beats......profuse perspiration...........mind in ecstasy............absolute bliss...............the all pervading Brahman is starting to encompass my Atman as I write this..............I simply can't............. I.......I AM.........TAT TVAM ASI.....................AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>14914197
>reddit points
BTFO kek

>>14912474
piss be upon him!
cringe!
retroactive!
guenon (pbuh) based based based!!!

>>14913800
based. send it to the magazine, brother.

>>14914382
>Some Hindus who have not studied their religious texts very closely may sometimes acquire the misunderstanding

lmao, you're a westernized follower of a western neovedantist claiming that 98% of india (a country you've never been to) "misunderstands" their own religious texts

neovedantists are amazing

don't forget to bump guenon threads.

>>14917290
Based. Always bump.

eliatic

>>14918009
>eliatic
yes Parmenides is also based.

from volume 1:

Transcend non-duality Peace be upon him, verily
Workin like I'm Dante in Piazza Santa Croce Sublime work ethic, cause I'm tradizionale
I'm also Parmenides
My life is Divine Comedy
Comedia by Alighieri
She can suck these but she ain't my Beatrice
-Guenonpoet

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Is Guenon’s concept of ‘progess’ The same as Hegels?

>>14918707
No it's totally different, For Guenon "progress" is a lie, a fantasy, a sick delusion. Hegel envisions a process that leads to the Absolute through progress, to Guenon the Absolute needs no progress, qualifications, etc but has always existed and been complete and it is the anti-traditional and satanic idea of 'progress' that turns people away from God and the eternal to distract them into focusing on ephemeral changes in the material world and to regard such changes as being what's truly important.

>>14918728
But don’t they both believe in a linear path toward God? That through our actions we come closer towards God?

>>14918753
>But don’t they both believe in a linear path toward God?
In a broad sense yes but so does every other mystical/metaphysical school and thinker who says one can attain union or unity with God, i.e. the vast majority of them

What's the deal with all the ellipses, is there any mystical symbolism behind them

>>14918763
But they both take from Hindu thought correct? The cyclical view of progress\regress eventually returns to the supreme source I.e God. Hegel has a linear model but not really because he has the dialectic which isn’t exactly linear but rather it’s similar to guenons cyclic model.
So I disagree, they seem different at first but are actually the same.
I wonder though, Hegel was pro technology, pro advancement but what Guenon?

>>14918812
Glad you asked brother........ They represent the "metaphysical point", a key aspect of Guenons thought.......... You can read more about it in Symbolism of the Cross....... The point is One and Many........... it is as small as the almond seed and as big as the planet........ Peace be Upon the Point.............. PBUTP

>>14918853
for Hegel there is only one way: forward. there may be some bumps, sure, but the Telos of history is the end of history
Guenon and Hinduism are cyclical and strictly regressive with the Kali Yuga. there is no "return to the same source" but only a tendency of the rate of tradition to fall (TRTF), ending with materialism and the reign on quantity. in other words, things are only getting worse. yet there is still the cycle of life and death, still the transmutation of one atman to another in the sea of brahman, a ripple in the ocean, all while the illusion of maya is dictating to the hylics "yes, this is progress" while they sit and watch anal gesticulation pornographic rape hentai tentacle fantasies.

>>14918924
>in other words, things are only getting worse.
only in relation to this particular part of the cycle though, but the cycle continues on forever and will eventually be at the good points again, it is continuous, even if there is some massive cataclysm at the end of the Kali Yuga it simply leads to the next Yuga

>>14918959
correct, but it is wrong to say that the Telos of this cycle is itself the next cycle, which would be what >>14918853 is implying when he says that they "eventually return to the supreme source i.e. God"

>>14918959
Ya but an individual can transcend the yucas ( like Buddha’s) and return to the source, thus flowing a linear path towards the brahman. History thus isn’t leaner nor cyclical but both at the same time. That’s I’m saying Guenon and Hegel both have the same notion of what ‘progress’ is. Am I right here?

>>14919013
no one can transcend the Yugas, they can only escape the cycle of Samsara, of continuous life and death. I guess in this way they could escape by means of Nirvana in buddhism, but the Yuga is a notion of the history of the universe, not of individual actors. in this way no one can "stop" the yugas; each cycle will still end the same way.
I hope you understand what I mean, I think I worded it awkwardly

>>14919034
The yugas only matter because their are individual people within them, if one or all humans trancend the physical as Christ and Buddha does, then the yugas for all tenses and purposes don’t exist. Thus this means they end. In this way I am saying that both Hegel and the traditionalist have the same notion of progess. They both lead to the absolute one.

>>14912462
why do you guys consider Rene Guenon as a holy man?

>>14919063
you have obviously not read the sacred texts and/or Guenon sufficiently.
>if one or all humans trancend the physical as Christ and Buddha does, then the yugas for all tenses and purposes don’t exist.
what a useless hypothetical claim, equivalent to a redditor's "well, technically..." the yugas necessarily exist, there is not one source which claims that the Telos is for all of humanity to transcend. the yuga can only end in Kali Yuga. necessarily. I'll leave you with a quote of Guenon from his essay on the Unity (Tawhid) of the Absolute.
>...the affirmation of Unity is everywhere, but originally it did not even need to be formulated expressly to appear as the most obvious of all truths, because men were then too close to the Principle to disregard it or lose sight of it.
you can decide for yourself whether or not this fits in with your degenerative little Guenon-Hegel syncretism.

Goodnight brothers..... Keep the thread alive at all costs.... Peace be upon you all......

>>14919095
I cannot believe someone walked in here trying a Guenon-Hegel synthesis lmao

>>14919423
What’s wrong with it, bud?

>>14919340
Based

Why has Guénon been /lit/'s favorite philosopher this past year? How based can he be?

God DAMN! I said GOD DAMN! Now THIS is absolutely fucking based!

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>>14914524
Thank you my brothers. May Geunon (pbuh) bless you all

>>14912462
To the Guenonian (pbuh) Librarian, a brother made these Sacred Icons for us to worship (pbuh) in another thread. I submit them in his name.

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>>14921739
>Guenonian (pbuh) Librarian
Holy... BASED!!!

bros... exaclty how based is He (PBUH)?

Brothers..... Last night I was reading Traditional Forms and Cosmic Cycles..... Guenons piece on the Pyramids was exceedingly based....... He says that the pyramid itself is a burial place........A symbolic burial place..... The very construction of the pyramid holds the secret of the Sacred Science of the Egyptians..... The dimensions, the angles, the alignment, and so on.......Moderns think that the builders made a mistake with certain pyramids, as they are aligned differently to the Great Pyramid..... Guenon (PBUH) refutes these Hylics and points out that the alternative alignment represents different Cycles, different times, when things were aligned differently both in social/spiritual terms, and geographical terms....... I found this all based...... I hope you all enjoy it brothers.....
......Peace be upon Guenon....... .....Peace be upon the Pyramids......
.....Peace be upon the Brothers......

>>14915531
>the all pervading Brahman is starting to encompass my Atman
I AM BROOMMMINGG

Brothers why do we refer to the Great Teacher by the name he chose to cast away. Abd al-Wāḥid Yaḥyá(PBUH) is the his name Rene Guenon is just the name the degenerate west knows him as

>>14921933
Rene Guenon is more than a name... It is a symbol..... PBUH

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>>14921933
Brother, we are still under the reign of quantity in however small ways even when we pledge our Soul to Guenon (pbuh)... We are not worthy of using his initiatic (pbuh) name in vain....

One can use it when gathered in prayer with other brothers, but otherwise the hylics will learn it and try to subvert our gathering...

(pbuh)...

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>>14921974
Holy... based...

I honestly can't tell if this is a brilliant joke or a schizo's insanity

>>14922024
its anons jokingly encouraging a schizo's insanity

>>14921980
An excellent . (point) Brother........
Guenon (pbuh) was always keen to stress the importance of hiding certain facts from the profane...... Peace be Upon You.

>>14922029
very cringe...our praise is as sincere as Guenon's (pbuh) words...

>>14922028
Saturn is both the King of the Golden Age, and the clown of Saturnalia. To the profane he appears as a clown..... Only the initiated can recognise the hidden nature of this fallen god........

>>14921980
A flash of inspiration.... Hit me all at once...... Just as there are many names to refer to the same Supreme Being (God, Allah etc.) So too are there many ways to refer to Guenon........ Truly a divine being...... PBUH

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>>14921743
Based...the collection grows...

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I require guidance brothers what is Guenon's(PBUH) teaching on idols and images?

>>14922083
In proper use they are aids to contemplation..... In degenerate use they are objects of worship in and of themselves..... Our use is the former ...... PBUH

>>14922122
>contemplation
holy based...

Bros, what is a proper way to legally engage in contemplation in the profane world? Is copious amounts of strong black coffee a proper substitute for the Initiatic Substance our Great Teacher (pbuh) cherished so much?

>>14912474
Piss Be Upon Him...

>>14922410
cringe.

>>14922028
yikes. cringe

>>14922024
super yikes. supra cringe.

>>14922405
coffee.......is a tool of action.......not contemplation...... in certain cases.... you will see it used for ritual purposes, mainly to induce vomiting... but for contemplation too much caffeine is an impediment....... perhaps.... use opium....... or a very high dose of red kratom....... ultimately... it is best to remain pure, unless you are following specific guidelines, as was Guenon (PBUH) when he utilised such substances for meditative purposes.............. Peace be Upon you Brother.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

>>14922405
>black coffee a proper substitute for the Initiatic Substance

Brother... It seems to be so! I searched for "guenon coffee" and got this place in a small Japanese city.
It seems very much like an initiatic Shinto group founded in the image of Guenon (pbuh)...

https://www.facebook_com/cafe.guenon/about/
The Guenon-thread (pbuh) protection against hylic websites doesn't allow me to post the full link, brothers...

holy... based...
they know! they are trying to establish Guenonian (pbuh) rule over Japan as it was traditionally until the profane hylic destroyed it!

>>14922430
>mainly to induce vomiting...
based.....
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>>14922410
based..

>>14922430
>coffee.......is a tool of action.......not contemplation......
Maybe one cna initiatically contemplate upon the smell of it? Brothers, I will try this today and report back. I promise to not use it as a tool of action... After all, as Our Great Teacher (pbuh) teaches...
>Contemplation > Action
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>>14922438
Based... Fellow weeb contemplators should make a pilgrimage to this Holy Site.
(pbuh).

>>14922449
based..... I wish you success in your contemplative endeavours.......

based

baaaased baaased!!! based...

>>14922635
BASED!!!! ..... Excellent creation my brother.....

>>14922028
I kinda wish it was at this point, but too much has happened for me to believe this isn't actually real. At least then what i typed here wouldnt matter and would just vanish into the ether like 99% of the other messages

>>14912462
wow, i seriously hope this is a joke

start with the greeks

>>14922976
Ignore him brothers...... He misleads you..... Start with Study of the Hindu Doctrines...... Peace be Upon this Book

>>14922976
>start with the greeks

>implying guenanons havent all ready read most of the canon
very cringe. read the magazine.

This thread is honestly disgusting. i didn't think it could get worse than five months ago, my last visit on /it/
Congratulations to the pys-op master who managed to turn a really interesting author into a meme; right at the center of the counter-culture website of our times...

It's honestly genius at this point. Don't hide knowledge, shove it everywhere but make it ridiculous

>>14923016
What is /it/ brother?...... Is there another board where the brothers are active?...... Enlighten us...... Peace be upon /it/

The intellectual decadence of the modern age has has provided this board with countless examples of those who will proclaim their own enlightenment to be the result of, in effect, removing themselves from the consequences of order or meaning and declaring triumph over these, as they would surely call them, false objectives while spending their lives staring into what amounts to a simple hole they have dug into the ground which, many, or possibly few, years later will become their graves and in which, they think, their bodies will become in a literal sense immaterial and their lives spent in rejection of any higher order will be justified in their total and permanent disappearance.
As wonderful as that would be, it, as we know, is not the case.
These types will plague us forever.

>>14912462
>118 posts
>3 posters
Yup, it's a Guenon thread alright!

>>14923016
guenonfags on suicide watch

>>14923065
BAAAAASED!
>>14923016
Cringe, brother... Please reconsider and repent. Guenon (pbuh) wants to enligthen you...

Where do I start with Guenon?

>>14923065
cringe

The Hylics.... Separated from the joys of tradition and brotherhood.....seethe with resentment...... The brothers stand fast in opposition..... Remaining carefully aloof from all controversy..... Safe in the knowledge that they will emerge victorious from the Kali Yuga..... PBUT

>>14923109
Study of the Hindu Doctrines..... Peace be upon you brother.....

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>>14923115
damage control

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>>14923069
Cringe

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BASED

>>14923109
You don't. You move on and don't attach any value to the ramblings of a college dropout with mental issues. You respect his right to privacy and let him do whatever he feels like without trying to find some hidden meaning where there is none. Just read whatever else you wanna read

>>14923137
The Hylics mind is poisoned with the teachings of the profane universities.... Pray for him....

>>14923137
Brother you have just revealed that you surround yourself with those who take pleasure in material goods. Please, recoil with disgust from the error of your ways and join us in the desert, where true enlightenment lies.

>>14923137
wow very cringe indeed.

>>14923158
based

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based

>>14923208
They cannot refute us brother..... They cower before us.... Like shudras before Brahmins....

>>14923291
>shudras before Brahmins

Based.. /lit/'s conversion to Guenonianism is progressing nicely

>>14923065
Brother, there is only 1 poster.... who is also many.... I suggest you contemplate on the nature of the Non-Dual....

Daily reminder that (pbuh) is spoken of by Allah (swt).

فَخَرَجَ عَلَىٰ قَوْمِهِ مِنَ الْمِحْرَابِ فَأَوْحَىٰ إِلَيْهِمْ أَن سَبِّحُوا بُكْرَةً وَعَشِيًّا - 19:11
So Zakariya came out to his people from him chamber: He told them by signs to celebrate Allah's praises in the morning and in the evening.

يَا يَحْيَىٰ خُذِ الْكِتَابَ بِقُوَّةٍ ۖ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْحُكْمَ صَبِيًّا - 19:12
(To his son came the command): "O Yahya! take hold of the Book with might": and We gave him Wisdom even as a youth,

وَحَنَانًا مِّن لَّدُنَّا وَزَكَاةً ۖ وَكَانَ تَقِيًّا - 19:13
And piety (for all creatures) as from Us, and purity: He was devout,

وَبَرًّا بِوَالِدَيْهِ وَلَمْ يَكُن جَبَّارًا عَصِيًّا - 19:14
And kind to his parents, and he was not overbearing or rebellious.

وَسَلَامٌ عَلَيْهِ يَوْمَ وُلِدَ وَيَوْمَ يَمُوتُ وَيَوْمَ يُبْعَثُ حَيًّا - 19:15
So Peace on him the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life (again)!

>>14923415
just how.. based... is he (pbuh)?

Greetings brothers, we'd like to release volume 2 of the magazine soon, but to do so we need submissions. Fiction, non-fiction, poetry and the like. Either post here or send to guenonmag@protonmail.com

Brothers, I am crying from joy right now...
Today I gathered a small group consisting of two Guenonians (pbuh) and we destroyed numerous buddhists and hylics in debate, humiliating them and forcing them to accept Guenon (pbuh) publicly.
Truly (pbuh)... He (pbuh) helped us with His (pbuh) presence...

>>14923415
>>14923422
>>14923426
Very based....

So do you guys go to your local mosque?

>>14923426
I am in the process of composing a song........ it will be ready soon......in the coming days.....maybe earlier.......I will send it to you brother.........

>>14923426
I see you use the same vpn i do, what a coincidence

>>14923567
it's a very good one :)

>>14923534
holy... based...
may the Angels (pbut) gather around this thread and sign of Guenon (pbuh) to us...

>>14923448
Very Bassie'd!

>>14923595
Im just gonna be honest and admit i still have no idea wtf is going on. I wanna blame someone for doing whatever this was, but I can only think of a couple people who would be capable of it. Ive been a scumbag but what in the world is this shit? All I know is that I've been seeing these threads for months, and for someone to stay interested in this for that long there has to be something going on. "You will never know" well, if that's the case then i can only hope this stops eventually, when you feel i've been in this prison long enough, or something

>>14923645
be silent and let the wise face of Guenon (pbuh) calm you anon...

>>14923645

Hylics be seethin'
Buddhists be bleedin'
They do not see for they are blinded by the Light
But a sustenance it is for Those who know their plight
Guenon teaches us to stay aloof from the profane
And we know, and follow his Holy Name

Amen...

>>14923645
For such an extreme action........there has to be an extreme stimulus................ Guenon is that stimulus....... He is the unmoved mover behind our posts...... PBUH

>>14923670
Brother............... You have outdone yourself........Based!

>>14923682
Extreme action, as if i've beaten or killed someone. If you read through the logs there's nothing that even hints at violence. I was just lying because I had nothing else, and feeling like I was a somebody instead of a nobody got me through lonely nights. It's a shitty thing to do, but not as amoral as what I think is going on right now. Ive never lied about liking someone else.

Can someone recommend me a good secondary text for getting a general overview of Guenon's philosophy?

>>14923974
Against the Modern World is more a academic historical look at the Traditionalist movement. Evola and Schuon both wrote long essays on Guenon but colored by their own outlook. There is some biography in French I couldn't find in English

>>14923835
Brothers........ This is a psy-op by the Hylics to associate us with schizophrenics......... Do not fall for their tricks.....

>>14923835
you are not well...either succumb to the darkness and leave us be or join us and bask in the sunlight...

>>14923989
Names of the essays?

>>14924027
Frithjof Schuon
Rene Guénon - Some Observations

Julius Evola
René Guénon - A Teacher for Modern Times

>>14923835
>Extreme action, as if i've beaten or killed someone. If you read through the logs there's nothing that even hints at violence. I was just lying because I had nothing else, and feeling like I was a somebody instead of a nobody got me through lonely nights. It's a shitty thing to do, but not as amoral as what I think is going on right now. Ive never lied about liking someone else.
wtf are you talking about? what did you lie about? what do you think is going on right now that is so immoral?

>>14924072
Brother..... That gentleman is troubled..... Leave him be.....

>>14924089
A sign of the times brothers. The Kali Yuga approaches it's culmination

>>14924094
The function of /lit/ is to prepare the Ark of important information (Guenons works PBUT) to bring through the upcoming cataclysm....... We are carrying out important work.....

>>14924072
I wonder if that one angry buddhist who would spam every single guenon and hinduism thread with his autistic copypastas and images with a bunch of text is having another breakdown because the countless hours he spent doing so ended up upgrading /lit/'s Traditionalism to a new level instead of driving away Guenon (pbuh) posting like he wanted to.

Brother, it's still not too late to come to the light. The Atman is shining with bliss within you at this very moment, you just have to stop averting your gaze from it

>>14924089
Based...
He knows not what he does... may Guenon (pbuh) enligthen him and lead him from destruction...

Guenon's (pbuh) Name (pbut) is an Eternal Light to us brothers...
But for the hylic.. for him... it is akin to Eternal Hellfire...

based... may the reign of quantity leave us unhurt... may guenon (pbuh) guide us...

>>14924072
I dont know either honestly, im just looking for an explanation for what's been happening with me the past 3 months. Am i actually insane, why am i on the verge of tears again

>>14924212
Based..... The dual nature of Fire..... Light and Heat..... The Sun as benefic and malefic..... Based.

>>14924268
>why am i on the verge of tears again
because you have not accepted the auspicious light of Rene Guenon (pbuh) into your heart

>>14924072
I just feel like i have an entire catalog of random associations, images, bits of text etc in my subconscious that fires in my brain whenever i seem to recognize a situation, movement, manner of speech etc. It's been this way ever since the end of january and i seem to connect it to things i've said on another site because the wording and topics often correspond to things i remember typing there. Now, why i keep seeing these things, i don't know, but i got convinced people are tracking everything i do and say online (possibly also offline) because they feel i harmed them in some way i dont fully understand. Well, thats it, thats why im still here and why im on meds and fighting with my parents all the time.

>>14924376
We mean you no harm brother...... We are simple men..... We do not track anyone....we simply read Rene Guenon.....and contemplate.... Do not fear....... Peace be Upon You

>>14924280
Based.......

>>14924395
You're not fooling me with this shit i open youtube and it's right back to the same thoughts. Why

>>14925534

479600095001604091747816093265736472

>>14925534
Goddamnit why does this affect me so much i wish i could just do something else but i can't stop thinking about it

>>14925596
Congrats om mentally breaking me, im fkn exhausted and dont wanna think about this anymore. Am i leaking all my private data to some random stranger every time i type in a password, will my bank account be empty when some guy needs money, can i ever do something without someone listening or watching. who knows about this, does anyone know about this, is this even real if so how much of it. Why are people i know seemingly trying to calm me down as if they can watch along as well and if their intentions aren't bad then why do they allow this to carry on.

Sometimes I hate 4chan. I can't understand what people are talking about. The posts are just submerged in layers of memes, I don't have the time to lurk Guenon threads to understand. Furthermore, I can't stand schizo posts, almost on the verge of being coherent so that I think the problem is just in my understanding. I know that in the memery is reflective of actual interest and agreement with Guenon's ideas and thats just what this website does. But for once I just wish people were straightforward and we could just talk intelligently about Guenon's writings. :(

I say this as a traditionalist, someone that agrees with Guenon. Sidenote: One of my philosophy/religious studies professors had the class read some Guenon and write a short essay on him. He also says he visited his grave in egypt and talked to his son haha. He probably hasn't ever heard of this website though. Peace be with you brothers, I know through the memes that you mean well.

>>14925596
Yeah, that's paranoid schizophrenia for ya

>>14925768
since you seem eager with Knowledge, We Initiate you into the Lesser Mysteries (pbut)...
>there is the Based Guenon (pbuh) who shines the Eternal Light of Gnosis upon the contemplating brothers who praise his (pbuh) Name
>there are cringe hylics, trying to subvert and deny the teaching, dooming themselves to perish in their hylic ways
>this shall continue until the Saviour (pbuh) prophesied by Guenon (pbuh) in the Qur'an (pbui) >>14923415 comes at the end of the Cycle and ends the Kali Yuga

So Peace on him the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life (again)!

>>14925768
>He also says he visited his grave in egypt and talked to his son haha.
Based....... You should immediately ask for a blessing from him... He shall transfer the Initiatic Influence upon you and you will understand that
>"Contemplation > Action"
(pbuh)...

B A S E D
A E
S S
E A
D E S A B

>>14926152
thanks man pbu y(ou)

based...

.......................based........................

based

>>14925768
is this your teacher?

>>14927758
He is well fed on the wisdom of Guenon. Though he may have misunderstood the value of symbolism in the metaphor.

>>14927758
Holy based...Our brother has made his pilgrimage...

>>14927758
Holy.. based... Where did you get this picture of me?

>>14927794
more than one brother

>>14927758
holy........ baaaaaased......
oh the things i would do to get even a brief glance at that Guenonian (pbuh) library in person...
i've heard Our Great Teacher (pbuh) has living male descendents? i have a sister, 18 years of age, if you brothers catch my drift...

>>14927809
...based...I must return...to the motherland as well...

>>14927758
>>14927809
So based!

>>14927809
The Based Department...... Peace be Upon Them...

>>14927809
Imagine the feet smell.

>>14927809
Just how based are these brothers? May Guenon (pbuh) hear their prayers to Him (pbuh)...
>>14927812
>a brief glance at that Guenonian (pbuh) library in person
I cry out with the same Sacred Desire, brother... I am willing to take your sister as my wife if I ever manage to make the pilgrimage and establish a small monastery near this Holy Site (pbui) to grant us brothers free access to such an important Place for us...

>>14927758
>>14927809
Extremely based...
Is there a law of return to Egypt? I need to return to my spiritual home...

Brothers........ How can we acquire a base of operations in Egypt to house our Spiritual Centre........

As Moses (pbuh) lead the Guenonians of Old (pbut) out of Egypt, we need to return to it not as slaves, but as Masters and Teachers to complete this Sacred Cycle and end the Kali Yuga.

>>14928079
Supremely based...... Like Jesus returning on the back of the donkey..... as a King.....

I'm thinking of a five letter word, brothers.....................................

>>14928123
Based - Guenon and the brotherhood
Cringe - Hylics
Allah - the uniting principle in which they are made one.

>>14928135
"Cringe is a six letter word" the Hylics cry out... Yes... And the brother said he was thinking of a five letter word.... Guenon (pbuh), the brothers (pbut) and Allah (pbuh) are the only things on the mind of enlightened men...... PBUT

>>14927809
>>14927758

Brothers... I will start learning Arabic immediately with the goal of marrying an Egyptian waifu and returning to the Holy Land as one of its own... I want to follow the example of Our Great Teacher (pbuh)...

the tiger escaped
the tiger is free
now he is eating my cum
yes
yes my cum

>>14923645
>>14923835
>>14925534
>>14925596
>>14925665
If you are being serious right now, then you sound like you're having a schizophrenic episode. Don't trust your paranoia right now. Your mind is playing tricks on you. Please go talk to someone who can help. These threads are a dumb joke.

>>14928376
While the man is suffering......... These threads are not a joke........

>>14928376
>>14928382
Cringe hylic psychology. What the brother needs is Guenon(PBUH), all is made whole through him

>>14928392
in nomine Guénon (pbuh)

>>14928392
where did I infer a belief in any modern nonsense?....... I think Guenon could help the man......... Why do you associate me with Hylics brother?.....

>>14928410
Apologies brother in these degenerate times sometimes the truth is hidden even to one who follows Guenon(PBUH) such as I

>>14928376
I still don't believe you. Too much has happened, maybe you don't understand what exactly but i've got enough reason to believe this can't be coincidence. I really wish it was, but it can't be

>>14927809
That's based and all but can't you get a valid initiation by joining a good powerlifting gym or martial arts club?

>>14928489
very well brother..... you speak the truth.... These are dark times.... Peace be upon you ...... One must wonder if there are infernal forces at work here.... Attempting to divide the brotherhood......

>>14928588
Contemplation > action, brother...

>>14928392
>all is made whole through him
One could even add that all is made through Him (pbuh)...... For he Truly is One with Brahman (swt)....

>>14928572
Yeah, that's the feeling you get when you're having an episode. People have the same feeling about whatever random bullshit delusion they happen to have.

I'm not telling you to stop thinking about it. You don't have to trust me. Just go be around someone you do trust, someone who actually loves you. Ask them for some help and for their opinion. It's at least possible that you're having a shitty schizophrenic episode right now. Just consider that.

>>14928735
Blessings upon you brother, thank you for being kind, even to someone who has clearly lost their mind.

Brothers... in these dark times I finally turn to him (pbuh) for guidance... who will show me where to start my journey in understanding him (pbuh)... thanks...

>>14929610
Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines...... You will not regret this decision brother.... Peace be upon you.....

>>14929633
..... did you just reply to yourself brother? ..... kinda based.

>>14929665
We are all one brother, including even the great Guenon (pbuh)

>>14912462
Dare I say it, based?

>>14912474
Get behind me Satan!

>>14929764
Based................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

>>14927758
no that isnt my teacher

>>14927758
Can we get some actual context behind these pics? I'm sure there's an amazing story behind it that someone can write about for the magazine.

>>14927758
this brought a tear to my eye...

>>14927758
Message to all brother: if you’re a fat unattractive son of a bitch don’t take pictures of yourself, don’t associate yourself with the thing you’re trying to promote, preferably, just kys. This goes for all ideologies btw.

BROTHERS I FOUND THE CONTEXT TO THE PICTURES:
https://lostlinkmuseum.com/art-and-artist/rene-guenon-abd-al-wahid-yahya/

PEOPLE DID GO ON A PILGRIMAGE.... HOLY BASED.....

>>14930739
HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE NAME OF Dr. M. Al Kailani A MAN SO DEVOTED TO THE CAUSE HE WENT ON A PILGRIMAGE. SHAME ON YOU.

>>14930739
How dare you insult a follower of Guenon (PBUH)...... Judging by appearance like a Hylic....... Piss be Upon You........ That man (pbuh) is infinitely more advanced than you in his knowledge of Guenon (pbuh). Retract your insult at once...... Or face the wrath of Allah!

It’s over bros. I don’t want to play this game anymore. Guenon is not based as proved by these pictures.

>>14930741
mon dieu....this...is...too...based
Brothers, where can I find our Brother's, Dr. M. Al Kailani, writings on his pilgrimage?

>>14930750
>>14930760
Ok bros may you be just as advanced as

*tips*

>>14930772
The serenity in his eyes...the honey of wisdom leaving his parted lips...brothers...is he Guenon (pbuh) reincarnated?

>>14930763
You're being ridiculous.
>>14930772
Dr. M. Al Kailani literally has published many research papers on multiple fields. This is like making fun of authors or academics because they don't look like models. What were you expecting?

>>14930763
>>14930772
>>14930780
Wow so this is how the average Guenonian looks like

>>14930791
This guy is also a doctor with multiple papers published on research journals. We'd be lucky to be as blessed as him.

>>14930782
Brother.... in your amazement.......you have forgotten one of Guenons (pbuh) teachings. We cannot reincarnate into human existence...... And Guenon himself (pbuh) returned to the Principle upon death...... The only possibility here..... Is that the Good Doctor..... Is an avatar of Guenon..... Guenon may have returned in the form of this magnificent being to guide us through the end of the Kali Yuga....... PBUH

>>14930809
holy based brother.... how do we contact this good doctor, Dr. M. Al Kailani.

>>14930783
>>14930802
Oh that I’d be so blessed. Based!

>>14930809
You know, sometimes i forget you guys are being ironic. This shit is actually well researched and you guys are either well read schizos or academic jokesters, I really can't tell anymore.

Allah really blesses one while hiding it with external deformities. Based pbuh!

>>14930814
Brothers....... We must contact The Good Doctor..... To determine if he truly is the Avatar of Guenon (Pbuh)

>>14930838
He's literally an old doctor.... were you expecting George Clooney to be a Guenonian?

>>14930809
Holy...based...my brother...a thousand thanks for the enlightenment...I should've not let my passions take over me...

Arabs have no soul, Guenon was based but got tricked by evil spirits into hanging out with gay arabs who dance around in dresses.

>>14930763
>>14930772
>>14930780
>>14930791
>>14930818
>>14930838
very cringe...homosexuality is heretical...do not obsess with what your eyes see...open your heart to receive the beauty of his soul...

>>14930849
You are welcome brother....... At times of amazement.... It is easy to be confused...... Peace be Upon you.....

>>14930845
Do you doubt??? Don’t you recognize the external signs of Guenon’s (pbuh) wisdom?????

>>14930880
WE MUST CONTACT THE GOOD DOCTOR IMMEDIATELY.

>>14930884
He is among us brothers!

>>14930880
We must be careful brother........ Guenon (PBUH) warned us of spiritual deception in these times....... It warrants further investigation..... I do believe The Good Doctor (pbuh) is an initiate of the highest order........ Beyond this I am unsure.......

Guenonisekaianon, if you're here please respond to my messages. If you can't get chapter 2 for volume 2 of the magazine that's fine. I just need to know how to plan around the release. Brothers, please submit to the magazine. We're in great need of submissions for volume 2.

>>14930899
Look at his lotus face! >>14930884
I shed a tear

For the magazine:

Win a nobel prize like obama
cause im traditional like coomaswarma
based like im movin in space
bitch, nobody can beat me in this race, yuh.

Philosopher king thanks Aristoteles
she want me to suck her tities
now i got these nice Givenchys

stung by a bee
make the frogs go ree
i might take her to the skis
Les Suites de la Potiniere
im traditional
cant you tell

P

>>14930942
Disgusting how you're making fun of this guy's appearance. He's a doctor not a model.

>>14930950
>I’m literally shaking right now

So this is how an initiate looks like

I have submitted a Hymn to the Magazine. peace be upon it.

>>14930940
Based.......

Brothers, thanks for the great submissions so far. We even had some never before translated journals. We're still in need of more submissions, however. Please write, and if you're not a writer, there simply is no better time to start than this dark age.

>>14931303
Based............... Peace be upon all who contributed.....

I have never even read Guenon................. I just like saying Based............

>>14931561
uhhh kinda based....

>>14930853
>imagining that there are really other people who exist as separate conscious entities without understanding that there is really only one all-pervading consciousness which is the ocean in which the wave of the world appears
ISHYGDDT

>>14930863
>very cringe...homosexuality is heretical...do not obsess with what your eyes see...open your heart to receive the beauty of his soul...
this alhamdulillah

>>14931303
bump

Any decent biographies on him? Preferably focusing a decent amount of his life in France.

B A S E D
A.......... E
S ..........S
E ......... A
D E S A B

remember to bump threads brothers

>>14927809
Based...

So baaaased!
Brothers I will make the pilgrimage...
I promise...

baaaaaasd

>>14932983
make sure to write about it and takes lots of pictures!

>>14932983
>>14933345
yes...brother...record your pilgrimage...to the origin...I shall read them...with the greatest enthusiasm...

>>14912501
can i submit my article on nusayri sex magic?

>>14933381
>nusayri sex magic
If it's serious and not ironic, sure.

>>14933345
>>14933355
>takes lots of pictures
I am afraid my visage will be seen and black magic cast onto it... But I will find a way, brothers...

>>14933414
what does guenon say about black magic? anyone actually read guenon here?

>>14933650
Magic is one of the more intact traditional sciences. In its current form however it is a much reduced version of what it once was, even if much of the principles remain the same.......magic was once strong enough to achieve amazing feats.....but no more...... It uses demonic forces to achieve its aims....... It is best avoided in favour of following an initiatic spiritual tradition such as Sufiism........ This is what Guenon (PBUH) writes on the topic

>>14933650
>anyone actually read guenon here?
of course, brother. what were you trying to insinuate with that heretical statement?

Brothers..... We must remain strong in these times of war..... The Hylics will not win........

>>14928735
The thing is, during every other aspect of my day i can be completely coherent and respond to things in a way that seems to be in line with reality enough for people to accept it as normal. It's just that i've built up a whole web of things ive seen and interpreted using minimal bits of information that may or may not be related to whatever i think happened. I also think the fact that I can step back and look at my thoughts critically means i'm not caught up in a delusion to the point of dissociating from reality. I feel like I might not be remembering things correctly though, so what I did might've been worse than i imagine. I just see it as me spewing a bunch of frustrated emotions out in the form of horrible irony and cynicism. It feels like i've scraped off a layer of filth and can finally say things without that sour feeling clouding my true intentions.

>>14934165
write about it for the magazine, anon.

so based.... guenon (pbuh)... i love you... (pbuy)

always bump this thread.

>>14931907
Paul Chacornac's Simple Life of Rene Guenon is good

>>14934932
>Life of Rene Guenon is good
Based....

>>14912462
bump

So baaased pbuh pbuh pbuh

>>14934877

Based.

>>14933381
>nusayri sex magic
I'm sure that based Assad (pbuh) himself is a master of it

>Ctrl f: based
>94
Cringe

posting in a based thread

Guenon had a ring with the letters AUM inscribed upon it. When his wife asked him what that meant he told her "it's the name of God"

Where do I start with Guenon (pbuh) brothers.. I am ready to begin my initiation....

>>14940133
Start with Schuon, he has everything Guenon has, but it's more concise and robust.


http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/Public/articles/A_Note_on_Ren%C3%A9_Gu%C3%A9non-by_Frithjof_Schuon.aspx

>>14940133
>I am ready to begin my initiation....
based.... follow this initiatic chart, brother....
>>14940156
Cringe!

>>14940156
Based, I have been waiting for /lit/ to discover that Schuon is Guenon but better in every way. He completed what Guenon began.

>>14940797
Cringe

>>14940117
Based... Im gonna do the same with my wife...

>>14940117
That's funny because in one of his books he says AUM is the name of a 3000 year old monk in some hidden-magical city.

>>14941444
>3000 year old monk in some hidden-magical city.
BAAAASED!!!

>>14941444
>>14942109
holy based... where do I find this monk? I need to talk to him brothers... I crave initiation.......

>>14941041
>He completed what Guenon began.
Guenon (pbuh) is without beginning and without end, brother.
Drop your hylic illusions and join us!

>>14942709
Schuon is the teacher of Nasr.. He and Nasr complete what Guénon started you counter-initiated moron

>>14942733
>Schuon
Cringe! He thought protestantism was initiatic, revealing his hylic nature... He was also in contact with the Buddha who got retroactively demolished by the impeccable argumentation of Our Great Teacher René Guénon (pbuh).
>Nasr
Cringe! He works for the CIA! It literally has CI=counter-initiation in its name!
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1976TEHRAN11491_b.html

>>14912474
Why do people still take Whitehead seriously?
Libraries might as well stop having his books in stock desu.

based

>>14942864
do you unironically have a problem with schuon and nasr based on their philosophy or what? i don't think Guenon(pbuh) would have a problem with their writing.

>>14944298
>engages in syncretism by praying with american indians while being """"muslim"""", does naked dances involving children, claims to see buddha in visions, got """"initiated"""" by his master in a vision
>secular liberal """"scholar"""" working for the CIA

He (pbuh) would promptly retroactively refute both of them for their deluded views.... Brother, you need to see the hylics beyond the mask.... Look beyond maya..... Look beyond appearances.......
Nasr is a confirmed CIA shill, Schuon was probably too, may Allah (swt) curse their name.......

Hey anons, I'm thinking about writing a short story for the mag, any advice on where to start?

>>14945172
based....

>>14945207
Aight thanks