/lit/ - Literature

I'd jest if the person was doing it for any other author but it is Joyce we're talking about.

My autism prevent me from it

>>14902554
Could you jest... infinitely?

I try not to mark up my pages unless it's a really profound thought

>>14902554
Joyce would think obsessively studying his book like this is mega gay.

>>14902603
very profound thoughts

>>14902603
I like to draw silly pictures instead of notes

>>14902603
Kek this reads like a black women shouting at the screen in a theater

>>14902536
if i have notes to make i make them in a notebook

>>14902536
anyone have a screenshot of that girl who raped her copy of Phenomenology with 10 different highlighters

>>14902536
Only if it's for a class or i'm writing about it.
If it's guided note taking then it's immensely helpful, but anything else is retarded.

>>14902603
>he's finally learning
that got a chuckle

>>14902603
>no there isn’t
Kek

I did it for Faulkner and Joyce because I’m a brainlet

>>14902603
>what is a holding
>no there isn't
Kekkek!

Note taking is for posers

>>14903494
You're not a brainlet, they both can be difficult. But that makes them all the more rewarding.

>>14903514

BREKEK KEKKEK KEKKEK

>>14902536
this book makes no sense

I took out a copy of Mann's short stories from the uni library, got the end of Death in Venice, and found this waiting for me at the end.

I only do it if I have multiple copies or if the book is really old and second hand ruined. A lot of my family does it to my aunt gave me an old copy of Les Fleurs du mal by Baudelaire she wrote in.

>>14903734
yowzers

>>14902615
Joyce wrote his books to be ridiculously deep so he could troll academia into overstudying it.

>>14902536
I think it helps but just simply reading the book and asking yourself questions is good enough

>>14902554
exactly. This is in no way "important literature". It is rubbish.

>>14902536
only if its written in a very complex style and packed with metaphores and analogies

>>14903790
Oh yeah, he really "trolled" academia by making really good books. Damn it, Joyce, you got us again!

>>14904031
I'm not saying his books weren't also good, but it was part of his mentality.

>>14902536
Only for nonfiction, really. But yes, absolutely. And I always try to use a pencil.

>>14904248
Why? Book pages are thin, you would rip the page if you tried to erase it. If you mark a book, prepare for it to be permanent.

>>14902799

>>14902536
If it can’t be helped I use post it notes, I don’t care for writing in a book, thoughts can change

>>14902536
Very much so. I like to know what reasoning process an author or rhetorician is using.

>>14905172
Idk how else you expect someone to understands hegel's retarded ass ideas and writing. What an absoloute smooth brain fart sniffer he must have been.

>>14905748
Actually I believe it was Joyce who was the fart sniffer.

Nero is cool.

>>14902603
I used to but then I realised I never went back to them or thought my notes were retarded and superficial when I finally did.
These days I keep separate notebooks on individual authors or major works which I think gives you a better overview and chance of making a system of it, which in turn I think is necessary if you want your notes to be anything more than scribbles to make you think you're engaging the text.
Pic related, picked it up on campus when I was a student, was probably used in some English lit 101 course somewhere and immediately discarded afterwards (likely couldn't sell it either because of the vandalism).

>>14905748
>retarded writing
yes
>retarded ideas
(you)

I don't write in books but at the end of every chapter I take quick notes on what was said on a separate paper, and when I finish my reading session I write a proper digest in a notebook. For very complex thought processes I sketch diagrams as I'm reading.

>>14906218
>Text: That's all we do, isn't it
>Note: That is all they do
Wow that note was very necessary.

>>14902631
based

>>14902536
Depends. 99% of fiction, no. Joyce, yes. Going through Ulysses and especially Finnegans wake without making notes, tracking connections, finding the puns, is missing the entire point really. Both of those books beg for obsessive and autistic reading, and reward you for doing so. Portrait or Dubliners don't require the same level, if any.

Philosophy texts get slight notes, mostly just underlining certain key arguments some notes in the margins every few pages. This said, highlighting is absolutely barbaric, as is taking your notes in anything colored or bold pen. A well sharpened pencil is all you need, because its unobtrusive an won't stop you from reading the text later. Final thought: has anyone ever gotten a used book with actually coherent notes in it? Every single time I do, its some incoherent bullshit written in highlighter or red pen like "I can't believe it" or "what did he mean by this?"

>>14906461
Was he high when he wrote Finnegans Wake? It just seems like a bunch of random words.

>>14906583
There is nothing random about it, it cost 17 years of his life and tens of thousands of pages of notes. The way he uses language is different than in other books. Each word is usually a combination of others, a pun, or contains intimations of other concepts if you read it out loud in the sentence. Sometimes the words reinforce each other, most of the time they suggest ambiguity, since the book runs on dream logic rather than linear presentation. Everything is shifting and spinning around a few major points and events, in various forms and permutations. I don't want to say too much that you didn't ask for, but even though the learning curve is steep to get a feel for how it reads, the payout is enormous.

>>14906583
Not random at all
Listen to Terence McKenna's lecture on Finnegans Wake, he does a breakdown of the first page that helps you kinda understand the depth and meaning that goes into it.

I am usually too lazy to take notes, but if i am reading a philosophical text i might take a few notes or even make a summary of what i„ve just read on my notebook.

>>14902574
You can write on a post-it.

Is this how people who don't have an inner monologue read books?

I recommend every single one of you autists to take notes while reading. Preferably not on the book itself. I use Google Docs to write down summaries, quotes and references about the books I'm reading.

Why Google Docs?

I like talking about books so when I'm out clubbing and talking to girls I can show them my Google document with all my books and afterwards they want to have the sex with me which is cool but then I panic because I'm a total fucking retard I come home drunk and crying
Thats the best time to light a cig and read some Miguel Serrano while listening to Fleetwood Mac while pissing my pants

Tl;dr just take fucking notes retard. That way you'll remember more of the books you read and understand them much better.

>>14907581
What's the difference between an inner monologue and just thinking to yourself?

>>14902536
I once tried but I didn't like it. It felt pretentious, like "ooh look at me I am reading something and having profound thoughts about it, I must commit them to paper for the rest of the world".

Now I just read.

yes because it helps you remember and organize what you think of what you read. try reading 100 books a year,without taking any notes, then come back and try and remember anything of substance about them that you couldn't just read off wikipedia.
>>14907641
based

>>14907641
I do the same thing but without the drinking, crying and pissing. I'm also quite adept at not having sex however I feel I'm able to do it more efficiently by having removed the unnecessary imbibing and elimination of fluids.

>>14905134
Sorry I don't have fucking ogre hands
I've erased things from books plenty of times