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>characters flat as shit
>cliche plot stolen from folklore
>everything stolen from folklore
>characters and plot created only as background for the world, instead of the world created as background for characters and plot
>unnecessarily detailed world that anyone could make with enough spare time, thus learning about the world is only interesting for the autistic author himself (= typical self-wankery)
>purple prose (see above)

>> No.14894015

>>14894000
This looks like first year literature student criticism.

>> No.14894019
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14894019

>bitch bitch bitch
You are of course posting this to make people feel rotten.
Fuck off

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>>14894015
>studying literature

>> No.14894029

>>14894000
op is right, reddit soi cucks seething

>> No.14894032

>>14894000
Looks like someone got asshurt over in the silmarillion thread. It’s ok to not like Tolkien bud but there’s no need to cry about it.

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>>14894029
^Direct hit!
OP on suicide watch

>> No.14894075

>>14894000
based

>> No.14894675

If anyone can make one show us yours

>> No.14894730

>>14894675
cope.

>> No.14894743

>>14894000
>unnecessarily detailed world that anyone could make with enough spare time
decades of fantasy writing worse than his demonstrates that this is not true

>> No.14894780

>>14894000
How is Frodo's arc flat? How is Sam's arc flat? How is Aragorn's arc flat? How is Gimli's arc flat?

What's wrong with characters having flat character arcs? Why does the story have to be more about a couple characters than the world it's in?

>> No.14895094

>>14894000

Tolkien's work is God tier. And he's not going away.

The man created an entire elven language for fuck's sake. You can learn it, read it, write it just like any language.

And the hieroglyphs used for the lettering is the most beautiful of any language ever, just how you might imagine an elvish language would look.

>> No.14895118

>>14895094
Exactly this. The man created an entire genre. OP is a shitposter on an Inuit whale bone carving forum.

>> No.14895291

>>14895094
Yeah, he was an autist, arguably one of the first of this kind, who liked creating conworlds. And?
Doesnt mean he was a good writer. He wasnt. Doesnt mean his works were enjoyable to read. They werent.

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>>14895291
Only an autist like yourself would argue his writing isn’t enjoyable to read when into been enjoyed in dozens of languages by countless individuals for over 70 years now. I know this might be shocking to your inflexible mind but your opinion is only your opinion.

>> No.14895357

>>14895325
>I know this might be shocking to your inflexible mind but your opinion is only your opinion.
you're on /lit/, faggot, not reddit

>> No.14895381

>>14895357
>muh reddit
Go back to the subreddit from whence you came. I’m sure they have a place there for your edgy, unpopular opinions.

>> No.14896107

bumpp

>> No.14896168

>>14894000
>that anyone could make with enough spare time
Clearly not because no one has made anything close to being as coherent. Mostly they just throw random elements together unappealingly.

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>>14894000
>Not knowing fantasy is just stealing history and throwing fairy dust on it
Anon...

>> No.14896584

>>14894000
>world not created as background for the characters

That’s the fine part you dip. Gives you a feeling the world actually goes on before and after the story is finished. Otherwise it’s just a stage for a theatre that some janitor is going to disassemble when you’re done reading,

>> No.14896681

Sure are a lot of meaningless 'buzzwords' and drivel in here for a /lit/ thread.

>> No.14896769

>>14894000
If your shit is flat, see a doctor.

>>14894019
Kill yourself.

>> No.14896795

>REEEEEE TOLKIEN ACTUALLY HAD BELIEFS AND SINCERELY HELD THEM WHERE IS THE IRONY WHERE ARE THE QUIPS
lmfao fag

>> No.14896845

>>14894000
>prose epic 'reconstruction' of a Briton/Celt/Saxon + some Scandifag/Finn Saga
>bougie novel
Pick one faggot

>> No.14897132

>>14894000
there were some dumbfucks over at /tv/ who were saying that tolkien was better than homer, idk what´s the deal with genre fiction fags, fucking neckbeards i swear