/lit/ - Literature

>>14878612
I'd say it's the public's view of what contemporary poetry is. Rupi Kaur is probably the most famous contemporary poet, and it's nothing special. So poetry looks really weak. It's something anyone can do and takes no skill with Kaur as a model.

>How come nobody reads poetry anymore?
In our language almost all of the books are poetry.
It is difficult to find prose in it.

>>14878612
Poetry is the least 'impressive' of the arts. The mainstream public isn't really concerned about expression, they're more concerned about numbers; this song is good and worth my time because it has so many views on youtube, this book is good and worth my time because it is so long and uses big words, this painting is good and worth my time because it has so much detail. Most people are will only consume art/literature if 1) it serves some purpose in their lives (that could be as simple as just impressing they're friends) or 2) if they can absorb it without too much effort. Poetry is too humble, too oblique, and too personal to exist in today's fast pace world.

I was about to make a thread for this. Do you guys have any recommendations for a beginner writing poetry? I’ve never really been into it but I’m strangely drawn to it recently.

>>14878637
Rupi Kaur's not all bad anon.

>>14879046
grown bad child good, fucking pederast

>>14878612
I wish there were more novels written in verse, I usually enjoy them when I find them but I don't think they'll ever really be in vogue. Some that I've liked are:

The Golden Gate by Vikram Seth
Omeros by Derek Walcott
Mr. Either/Or by Aaron Poochigian
Sharp Teeth by Toby Barlow

>>14878612
>I'd say even among boomers it was fairly common.
It wasn't
Poetry as in lyric poetry wasn't all that important until romanticism. Epic and dramatic poetry were of far greater interest for people until then. And even after that it has retained a certain level of elitism, of maximal focus on the language and style rather than on more easily palpable things such as action, plot, etc.

>>14879106
Have you read Pushkin's Eugene Onegin and his poemas?

>>14878612
people don't believe in beauty anymore. It will take a complete reconstruction of culture to the point where beauty is something held to such a place in the common mind that something like poetry is common again.

>>14878612

to like poetry you need sensitivity to language and/or knowledge of verse and form. most people are to pic related to be either.

>>14879011

>poetry
>humble

>>14879558
>Have you read Pushkin's Eugene Onegin
Not yet, I went through a phase where I was only reading Russian lit and got burnt out, but I'll probably start again soon, I do really want to read The Master and Margarita and The White Guard, after that I should read some Pushkin.

>>14879106
>tfw I spent most of 2019 writing long narrative poems

Narrative verse is going to make a comeback. I swear it will.

>>14878612
Everyone remembered the point of poetry was to be spoken not read

>>14879106
Check out Autobiography of Red by Anne Carson

>how come nobody reads poetry anymore
Simple. Back then people couldn't listen to music sung without some planning but these days you can listen to music sung quite easily. Poetry is redundant now.

>>14880413
What did you write? Please tell

>>14880636
It's kind of a long story.

Since I was in the last year of middle school and the beginning of high school, I've had an idea for an enormous story, a story which is so big that it contains multiple major works within its length. I suppose I could call it a "series," but I've always resisted this, because it feels commercial. To call it a "series" would make it seem like what George RR Martin does, or Brandon Sanderson does. And maybe this is just me being snobby and pretentious, but that's not what I want from this story. I want this story to be a great work of art. I want it to be the greatest work of literature of the 21st Century, a thing people will read a thousand years from now. And I want it to be a work that glorifies God. So I've toyed with what to call it. I've thought of calling a "cycle" or a "matter," in line with old traditions.

Anyway, all throughout 2019 I wrote narrative poems that take place within this bigger story. They all were part of the same larger story, all had the same cast of characters, all drew upon the same themes. Some of them were in free verse, some were in regular meter. They were very experimental for me as an artist, because I'd never told a story in verse before. But they were important, because ultimately this huge story of mine is going to contain both poetry and prose. I want to conquer the English language with this big story. I want to achieve mastery of poetry and prose in all their forms by the time I'm done.

>>14878612
>I'd say even among boomers it was fairly common.
Boomers didn't read then and they don't read now.

>>14879011
>this book is good and worth my time because it is so long and uses big words
Your general theory is likely correct, but people read books because they're best sellers. Or they try to. Length and vocabulary are two of the things that will get someone to drop a book fast, even a wildly popular one.

>>14879046
>>14879075
literally in top 50 most common cliches and not even well-written. imagine just shitting out near plagiarisations of pop culture.

>>14879011
>>14880667
Yea when it comes to music at least I would say the advertisement and crafted character is way more important. Like look at kpop, avowed fans barely care about the music aside from tributary support because it's mostly shit. Way more important is how the label directs a boy or girl band to act around eachother. I imagine off camera they're not very close and not nearly as infantile.

>>14879014
Read a lot of poetry.
All sorts. That’s the way to learn.
Write too but don’t expect it to be great. You have to learn what a poem is first and you only get that by interacting with as many as possible.

>>14880651
Sounds nice fren. Looking forward to buying it in the shops.