/lit/ - Literature

I once heard that only 2% of buddhist scriptures were ever translated into any western language

>>14869569
Dude, learn Pali, I was a cook in a theravada monastery for a year and even I was learning Pali back then.
Specially if you want to read obscure rare stuff, also the Pali community is very welcoming, and produce a lot of Pali study resources.

>>14869585
Holy shit, I legit want to hear about your year there like a Conversations of Goethe but Conversations of Anon in a Theravada Monastery.

>>14869569
the whole thing has been translated by the pali text society, but its massive as fuck and thus expensive

http://www.palitext.com/

>>14869589
What you want to know? It was a mix of very mundane stuff mingled with some life changing insights. Overall it was a good experience, I was almost a kid back then and it made very cautious of "spiritual" people overall, the monks were cool guys, the other visitors not that much, specially the hippy dippy ones. But most of the time it was just a lot of silence, insights and study, even daily chores were meditation. If you want to know how is it just go get into one, you don't need too much money for it, just have the balls for the schedule and silence.

>>14869585
>theravada

Cringe.

>>14869620
So enlightening and compassionate.

>>14869631
Guru Rinpoche would not support theravada and he is the greatest Buddhist next to Buddha himself.

>>14869636
Welp, Shakiamuni did, but you are free to think whatever you want to.
Also is so huge ass egotistical of you to claim what Guru Rimpoche would do, I pity you if you have samaya vows and you aren't just a 13 year old larping, go make bad karma anywhere else.

greetings, fellow crypto-advaitins

>>14869585
Are Pali and Sanskrit mutually intelligible? If I learn one, will I be able to read the other?

>>14869620
Theravada is the best

Can someone give me a quick rundown on why Theravada is shit on?

>>14869704
They are very alike, but far from being close to isometric. It's like Portuguese and Spanish, they are pretty close but not like ladino or mozarabic are to Spanish. Certainly you should focus on learning each of them on it's own, not like they are interchangeable.

>>14869706
Politics and ideology, as it always happens with "religion".
I'm no partial to any side tho, ultimate reality is way far from dogmas and concepts. Finger and the moon, etc...

>>14869706
bants between two different ways of interpreting Buddhism.
>>14869735
it's theological, not political or ideological.

>>14869740
>theological
Then it's as I wrote, conceptual, not ultimate reality at all, just convoluted delusion on any of the holders of opinions. Do you rejoice in duality?
-t. jaded dzogchempa

>>14869706
Mahayana is closer to what the Buddha actually taught.

>>14869569
>fully delve
>translations
oh no no no no

>>14870052
Butterfly, how many languages do you speak?

>>14870073
i'm mute and deaf
;_;
guess i'm out of the oral tradition lel

>>14869706
Contrarianism: Theravada, or a watered-down form of it, has a lot of influence in secular "mindfulness" meditation and correspondingly on the educated westerners who are interested in that kind of thing but who want to maintain the appearance of being scientific and reasonable.Since it is probably the variety of Buddhism that the West likes best, 4chan's urge to be counter-culture demands rejecting it.

>>14869569
>Khuddaka Nikaya
mot of those texts are just made up stories

>>14869706
Theravada is has less vedic entertainment like philosophy, so hedonists prefer mayahana like >>14870046

>>14870368
Nah what you actually mean is Vajrayana, not Mahayana.

>>14869631
>>14869645
Damn are Buddhists really as passive aggressive and impotently superior as Christians?

Maybe Nietzsche was right.

>>14870196
>Since it is probably the variety of Buddhism that the West likes best

Where do you get that from?
I concur that Theravada is the overall most intellectual branch and might have exerted a subtle indirect influence, but the West’s primary obsession lies with Tibetan Buddhism and Zen, not Theravada.

>>14869649
The reverse

>>14869569
just learn Pali, it's a meme language that can be learned in a week

>>14870974
>dude just learn 50 languages lmao
>reading translations lmap

>>14870974
>it's a meme language that can be learned in a week
Brainlet opinion

>>14869569
As a descendant of same racial line as of Buddha, I never had any interest learning his works. Bhagwad Geeta is more based and aryanpilled than entire Buddhism where Buddha abandones his true Dharma as a ruler. Plus todays buddhist works are corrupted anon, Pali wasnot Buddha's mothertongue, it was sanskrit.

>>14871215
Based and correct

just get a Pali gf to read it for you

>>14871215
cringe and poo-pilled

>>14871215
>Bhagwad Geeta
I can tell you're indian by this spelling. If I may utter this before we continue,
>POO.

Ok now that I got that off my chest, the Tathagata was a pure aryan (white) and had no dirty dravidian blood in him like you do. You are not of the same racial line, go wipe your ass shitskin.

>>14871215
Sanskrit is younger than Pali. Sanskrit is a meme language.

>>14871215
>As a descendant of same racial line as of Buddha
The Buddha was a white man, just like any historical ancient Indian of any note

>>14869569
not complete translations but both of these sites offer excellent translations of many pali canon excerpts

https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/index.html
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/index.html

i stick to dhammatalks but both are good

>>14871215
>Plus todays buddhist works are corrupted anon, Pali wasnot Buddha's mothertongue, it was sanskrit.

Is this important to the teachings or just history?

>>14871215
>Bhagwad Geeta is more based and aryanpilled
cringe, all of this bc omega poos love philosophy & suck at meditation
>>14871215
>Buddha's mothertongue, it was sanskrit.
cringe

>>14869620
t.Hindu

Pali canon is empty bro

>>14871548
>Buddha was a white man
cringe

>>14872691
This. Buddha was a black woman who happened to have blue eyes. Yes Buddha was a she too, "retractable penis" my ass. It was a fucking vagina. But chauvinists rewrote history to fit their shit narratives.

>>14869717
Texts are probably easier than familiar conversation would have been and modern uses involve careful pronounciation of preserved literary varieties.

The other day I was watching a Brazilian documentary which mostly involved people being interviewed in public and could understand 90% + of it with Portuguese subtitles on.

>>14870882
I've encountered very few Americans with an interest in Tibetan or Vajrayana Buddhism, but many with Therevada-y interests.

I didn't have Zen in mind when I wrote that, though. Zen sure is influential, but seems like the most bare-bones version of Mahayana due to its unique emphasis on directness.

Anyone try the Pali text reader or know of any other similar programs or sites?

>>14871548
WE