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His theory of colours is a piece of garbage. He chose an ugly and stulid wife instead of his waifu von Stein because he was a coomer.

>>14851739
Comedian David Mitchell should play him in a self-reflexive Michael Winterbottom dramedy.

>>14851749
>His theory of colours is a piece of garbage
Yes but Schopenhauer perfected the theory and Schrodinger was very approving of the results.
>He chose an ugly and stulid wife instead of his waifu von Stein
von Stein was already married and I don't think it's fair to subject his wife to current standards of beauty.
>because he was a coomer.
Not true. He was chaste until his thirties.

Look at your criticisms for a moment. They are so basic and trivial (not to mention unjustified) that they are further evidence of his basedness. Of any other man we could find a thousand more serious faults.

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>>14851780
The greatest problem with Goethe is that he was so based and contributed so massively to german 19th - 20th century culture that he, like Wagner, could be accused of causing nazism (by being too based)

>>14851795
>could be accused of causing nazism
If anyone argues that, they are very persuasively asking you to convert to Nazism. All the critics of Goethe and the Nazis are too careful not to attribute them to each other for this very reason.

Bump. You guys really need to read more Goethe.

He lost his virginity with 38.

What are your favorite works by him, anons?

>>14851922
Wilhelm Meisters Lehrjahre but also his Diwan.

>>14851782
hes literally me bros

this is now a David Mitchell Worship Thread

>>14851918
he cute

>David Welsh notes that, "Goethe made frequent use of the idea of unifying opposites in the sense derived from the alchemical mysticism, both in his literary and scientific writings.
>"I was pleased to imagine to myself a divinity which reproduces itself from all eternity, but since a production cannot be thought of without multiplicity, this divinity necessarily applied to itself at once as a Second Person, whom we recognize by the name of the Son."

>>14852033
Based

>>14851922
Special fondness for the Italian Journey and Dichtung und Wahrheit; also Eckermann is just fantastic.

>>14851739
Truly based man. In the beginning was the act.

>>14851739
I've read Werther and liked it immensely, where do I go next?

>>14852957
Good taste. Wilhelm Meister's apprenticeship would be the next logical step.

Why did he have brown eyes?

>>14852970
What is a good english translation

>>14852986
All the better to see you with, bl*eoid

>>14851795
>could be accused of causing nazism
What is wrong with Nazism? Post nose kike. Nazism is the best thing to come out of Germany

>>14853206
That would be Charlemagne and the 2nd, not the 3rd even remotely. Don't be disrespectful. The time has changed!

Is there a good biography on him?

>>14851739
i adore the man and a lot of his works, but i like his S&S personality a lot better than his classicism personality

>>14851922
sorry for being a midwit, but Faust I is - just due to my personal developement - my absolute favorite.

Is it true that Nietzsche saw him as the only historical figure that reached the condition of übermensch?

>>14851739
"The Virgin Courtesy"
>Goethe thought differently; he drew his hand, took off his hat and stepped aside
THE CHAD STRIDE
>Beethoven, hands in pockets, went right through the dukes and their cortege... They drew aside to make way for him

>>14851739
Goethe was the first man of any note to proclaim Schopenhauer's genius, about 30 years before that was cool.

>>14853206
>PINK COLORISATION
>a
>World War Colorisation

>>14854835
Goethe said that Beethoven was intelligent, but something to the effect that he was too angry.

>>14854835
Goethe literally had a chad stride

>>14855090
And still got outchadded by B'tovyn

>>14855081
Goethe became a placid boomer in later life, also belittled Hölderlin, Kleist and others because he found them too spicy

>Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship may be called throughout prosaic and modern. The Romantic sinks to ruin, the Poesy of Nature, the Wonderful. The Book treats merely of common worldly things: Nature and Mysticism are altogether forgotten. It is a poetised civic and household History; the Marvellous is expressly treated therein as imagination and enthusiasm. Artistic Atheism is the spirit of the Book. … It is properly a Candide, directed against Poetry: the Book is highly unpoetical in respect of spirit, poetical as the dress and body of it are.

>>14854464
There's Conversations with Eckermann which is basically table talk that occurs over the last 13 or so years of his life. Nietzsche called it the best German book.

>>14855406
Novalis had more soul than Goethe, given that he had traded it to the devil.

>>14855396
>B'tovyn
Are you irish?

>Goethe became a placid boomer in later life, also belittled Hölderlin, Kleist and others because he found them too spicy
Describe spicy.

>>14854443
Charlemagne didn't come out of Germany but out of Belgium the Netherlands.

>>14851782
Did Goethe have moustache?

>>14855458
It wasn't Novalis that wrote a whole book about selling his soul to the devil, you know.

>>14854807
He said, him, napoleon, n jesus were the closest

>>14855760
The Reich was essentially northern France (Frankreich) and southern Germany. Niederländer means lowlands, that of a Germanic people, and the Belgae were a tribe living in northern Gaul, i.e. northern France. The first Reich was of course Rome, which -derrrr- is in 'Italy' and specifically *not* a Germanic organization, nor an Italian one either for that matter. The 2nd, however, was.

Alright, how do I into Goethe?

>>14851795
Wheels are such a great invention, they have brought so many wonders and advanced civilization. But I guess they have caused the death of some people, so they're bad...

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>>14855991
Gotcha

>>14856009

>>14855990
Are you comparing National Socialism, a defunct and inefficient form of capitalism, to the wheel?

>>14851782
That pizza looks like hot garbage.

>>14851739
>having brown eyes

>>14853206
that image is shopped

>>14855955
the first reich was the hre, not the real roman empire, and the second one was the german empire

>>14857517
>Holy ROMAN Empire
>not real Roman empire

Anyone got this? Good collection?

>>14851739
How does one become so superlatively based, and preeminently redpilled?

>>14857612
Its translation of Wilhelm Meister is very good. It also has Faust 1 and some Classicist works as well as his scientific notes but I haven't looked at them yet. Overall, yeah it's pretty good.

>>14857630
Either be Goethe or strive to be like Goethe. There is no other answer.

>>14857654
I guess Wilhelm is the main appeal since it seems hard to get in English anymore. Guess i'll end up picking it up with his biography at some point.

>>14853206
my brother

>>14857654
What's Carlyle's translation of Wilhelm Meister like? An anon in another thread said it was very good but read similarly to Carlyle's own writing.