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Let us try now to understand the "incel" as one of the characteristic forms that the Subject takes in relation to the phenomenal structure of lived experience in late capitalism.

In particular, I would like to suggest that one of the most striking triumphs of the digital culture industry--the Dating App--demands of its audience a relation to their own sexuality that, whatever their place in the fictitious "Sexual Marketplace" that they create through submission to it (incels "per se," only with the most self-consciousness), is essentially the alienated self-relation of the incel.

The self-made slaves of the Sexual Marketplace will feel resentment when, robbing them of the sensuous particulars proper to their apparent station, I put the most willfully enraged and jealous man on a level with those members of our youth who think themselves most liberated and wizened to the ways of modern love. But I want to say that those very sensuous particulars have already lost their particularity--which is to say, their quality of belonging necessarily to one human life-narrative as opposed to another--in the artificial fragmentation imposed upon their sequence by the temporal structure of the Dating App Experience--an episodic structure it shares with the television series, and perhaps most clearly with the pseudo-cinematic Prestige Television (with which it also shares a contemporary cultural ascendancy).

The television provided in this respect a crucial antecedent for the phenomenal structure of the Internet as a whole. (The Dating App shares, of course, in this general structure of the digital experience; its special power to illuminate this structure proceeds from the way it bluntly subsumes the phenomenal structure that purports to be most different from it--that of the primeval sexual act--to its own.) One knows precisely when a book, a concert, a movie, begins, and when it ends. Sure enough, a successful specimen of any of these is likely to make one feel as if "transported" to another, a more perfect, world. But, as for the most successful books, movies, and concerts, one discovers later that it was as if the transport had only taken one further into oneself. That is because the structure of that experience has become part of the larger narrative that is a human life, thereby enlarging the humanity of that life. One may reread, rewatch, or relisten, but, as we all know only too well, to do so has the ethereal quality of "reliving" any past experience. This is because the experiencing subject already contains the structure of the experience.

The abiding presence of the television series, of the Dating App, of the Internet--of a hundred million unrealized experiences and the hundred million faceless individuals who might inhabit them--is another matter entirely.

Moar?

>> No.14823883
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>>14823871
It doesn't read like Adorno, either in terms of prose or sentiment (it's too blankly hypotactic and clunkily Hegelian.) It's the 'sound' of a box of books by Hegel, Lenin, maybe even Lukacs being thrown down a flight of stairs.

>> No.14823891

>>14823883
I didn't mean to suggest I was embodying Adorno, sorry. Haven't read those other guys yet. Anyways, if you feel you've heard it before, that's good to know.

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>>14823883
Throw some William Gibson in there as well. It reads as much like the monologue from Johnny Mnemonic as it does theory.

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Hell, I’m drunk and putting off a paper so let’s do the rest.

That the Internet reduces reality for its audience to a semi-reality, is in one sense an obvious truth. But this power has little to do with its sensuous presentation as a luminous screen and more to do with the rhythm it imposes on a lived narrative. I think it is fair to say, for instance, that the sexual encounters facilitated by the Dating App are themselves part of the Internet, part of the new way of life. If, as Marx says, the worker in the factory is different, is alienated, from the worker at home, how much more different we must be from ourselves when, in our leisure hours, we willingly sacrifice the possibilities of a human existence for the endless and false possibilities of a life lived by machine, a life in installments!

In the freedom to choose when to turn discreet experiences “on” and “off” lies the familiar moment when freedom becomes self-enslavement. Self-enslavement, because the Dating App by its design intends only to commodify a particular need of the user (a need that has already been commodified in thousands of ways since commodification began). I am not so cynical as to doubt that some have found (their equivalent of) “true” love by means of the Dating App. They prove that the enslavement it engenders comes not from without but from within.

The enslavement is not, of course, to the Internet in itself, but to the blank infinity of spectators we imagine to be viewing from above each of our episodic interactions with it and through it. To allow any of these episodic interactions to become integrated into the larger narrative of our lives—which is the same as allowing the larger narrative of our lives to influence the choices we make in these interactions—would be a lack of propriety. In so doing, we would after all be forced to reduce the number of forever-possible experiences to something less than infinity, thereby turning away some of our infinite spectators. To call this fear of the finite and particular a perpetual childhood, is to misappropriate a naturalistic metaphor in neutralizing an unnatural concept. The fact that all or nearly all users of the Dating App (perhaps of the Internet generally) will eventually appear to “grow out” of its use, is little consolation. I do not deny that such is a moment of genuine growth, of advancement in a life-narrative; I fear that it will be advancement only into another form of existence still dominated by the shuttling between episodes of experience and action.

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>>14824267
Given my audience, I must add that promiscuity in itself is not the novelty under question. I am trying to show that the structure of the Dating App is not consistent with human sexuality, *whatever its nature or natures hitherto*. Whether one considers one’s nature to be purely monogamist, serially monogamist, or “polymorphously perverse,” the form of love engendered by the Dating App substitutes the coherence of that love as a life-work, for the possibility of an endlessly repeated conquest or debasement, pleasure or disillusionment.

>> No.14824318

>>14823871
I'm going to keep it somewhat short because I want to go smoke a cigarette soon. Incels and egirls are two sides of the same coin, both destroyed due to modernity, instant gratification at a finger tip, ubiquitous pornography, drugs, video games, social media etc the youth are extremely online and pillaged by technology. Due to their apathy and acquiescence, this results in curating their identity to metamorphosize into this amorphous, schizoid onliner who lost his touch with nature, relationships and humanity. He becomes extremely alienated, full of contempt, misanthropy, racism, and whatever else. This young man either breaks this barrier or gets totally subsumed by this beast and ends in tragedy. Fin

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>>14824274
>>14824267
One more caveat: the differences between media are, of course, all relative. Again, this helps to explain the "success stories" of the Dating App and, taking a wider view, the fact that a good TV show can resemble a movie, and a bad movie a TV show. If a TV show ceases to be an indefinite cloud of "spoilers" that are arbitrarily realized as episodic units, and instead becomes incorporated into one's life as a part of one's significant past, then it has more the essence of a movie. On the other hand, if one sees a movie and it turns out to be a "flick" that you forget in a week, then it can be said to have more the essence of a TV show. You can extend the same to relationships procured online, and by more traditional means.

>> No.14824352

>>14824318
I think that's about right, I was just trying to articulate it in such a way as to circumvent platitudes. Although I am a little more pessimistic about what "breaking the barrier" means in the end. In my own case, I would consider myself to have done that in large part (not that I ever got into the reactionary political side of things), but I feel myself as something left wounded and unable to thrive.

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>> No.14825628

This whole thread is filled with boring takes due the center-left ideology that comprises this board. Analysis of our community while acting like you do not partake in it is insanity. You all act as if you are so above the rest. It shows.

>> No.14825682

>>14825628
So do you. It really shows

>> No.14825746

>>14825628
Anon...easy on the resentment

>> No.14826518

>>14825628
ITT: Oh I'm so fucking important. Read my impressively cold take about incels pls

>> No.14826667

>>14823871
Incels are obsessed with sex like everyone in this dark age. All materialists will hang on the day of the rope.