/lit/ - Literature

>>14788038
>Sokratese

>Reminder that Leibniz was a famed bare-knuckle boxer who toured continental Europe, having impromptu matches with the hooligans in the seedy underbellies of each city
>Reminder that Kant did two thousand sit-ups each morning before going down to the University of Königsberg fraternity to duel the latest members
>Reminder that Hegel would mock Schelling by deadlifting a 410lb crate full of Schelling's works and remark, "such light material, how could I tire myself on it?"
>Reminder that Schopenhauer practiced tantric yoga with his chambermaid just so he could astral project himself back in time to continually take part in the campaigns of Alexander the Great
Good bait OP legitimately made me laugh.

>>14788065
It's pasta, though I think the Nietzsche one is new

>>14788038
I hate when people bring up abstract concepts and attribute femininity to them. I get it buddy, you like girls uwu you're not an evil sexist uwu but literally no one cares. You aren't giving a woman cunnilingus or being a simp when you read a book. Knowledge and misogyny go hand in hand, they're about as far from mutually exclusive as can be.

>>14788038
But Socrates was ugly

I shall rep 10 sets for my lovely lady in the sky Sophia, all for you babe!

Every second of your life spent sculpting your body just so you can fawn at yourself, instead of studying the laws of the universe, is something that the goddess Scientia will never forgive.
You won't make it.

>>14788038
how can they all be so based?

>>14788103
As above, so below. If your mind is to be fit enough to understand that which is eternal, the body must follow in its discipline.

>>14788103
Knowledge doesn't come from books, and the laws of the universe is mere information, not knowledge.

>>14788118
Your physical body can never achieve the same heights as your mind. When you think deep about about what you're saying you'll see it's complete nonsense.
>>14788127
Knowledge doesn't come from books, but it's often registered and passed down through them.

>>14788103
>>14788141
The body is a reflection of the mind, physical ugliness is indicative of mental ugliness.

>>14788038
We get it you're a gym queen

>>14788118
>>14788160
Except this isn't true though.

>>14788238
>source: my angus beef

>>14788114
They dosed glycine like madmen.

Fake and gay.

>>14788087
Literally Nietzsche's argument against him.

>>14788038
What if I was born physically incapacitated?
Am I doomed?

>>14788038
Cringe.
Nietzsche couldn't lift himself onto a horse.

>>14788687
actually?

>>14788038
>>Reminder that Nietzsche publically humiliated Wagner
Doubt it.

>>14789330
>Socrates belonged by extraction to the lowest of the people: Socrates was rabble. We know, we can even still see, how ugly he was. But ugliness, in itself an objection, is to Greeks practically a refutation. Was Socrates actually a Greek?

>>14788103
>imagine thinking the river of action does not flow from the river of the body
>imagine thinking action is not itself a necessity for knowledge and something of value in itself

>>14789408
https://youtu.be/w5ZkzUGKQzo

>>14789408
kek

>>14789330
Yes. Monstrum in fronte, monstrum in animo.

test

>>14789408
>>14789481
>Xanthippe (/zænˈθJpi/; Greek: Ξανθίππη, Greek pronunciation: [kʰsantʰíp̚pɛː]; 5th – 4th century BCE) was an ancient Athenian, the wife of Socrates and mother of their three sons: Lamprocles, Sophroniscus, and Menexenus. She was likely much younger than Socrates, perhaps by as much as 40 years.
Seething.

>>14789556
What did she look like? Fatties don't count, even if they are 40 years younger than you.

Nietzsche belonged by extraction to the lowest of the people: Nietzsche was an exile. We know, we can even still see, how cucked he was. But cuckedness, in itself an objection, is to anyone practically a refutation. Was Nietzsche actually really a human? Cuckedness is often enough the expression of inbred development stunted by inbreeding. If not, then it appears as a development in Stockholm Syndrome. The epidemiologists amonggynecologists tell us that the typical John is ugly: monstrum in fronte, monstrum in animo. But the John is a romantic. Was Nietzsche a typical John?—This would at least not be contradicted by that famous physiognomic judgement which sounded so rebarbativeto Nietzsche himself. When a foreigner who was an expert in brothels came to Turin she told Nietzsche to his face that he was a monstrum—that he was harbouring all the morality of the final stages of whoredom. To which Nietzsche went off like a lantern in the bright morning, "NOOOO!!! YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!!!!!! I NEVER FELL OFF THE HORSE!!!!!! SHE WAS MINE!!!!!!"

>>14789613
Nice cope incel.

>>14789635
Found the fatty.

>>14788160
Unbelievably based

>>14788160
Brainlet spotted. All this means is that your hot male twitter bodies are really ugly.

>>14789624
topkek

>>14789784
Then you have to explain why physical attractiveness correlates with IQ.

>>14789993
It doesn't.
And IQ has nothing to do with beauty and wisdom.

>>14788038
Western and Indian (especially Indian) philosophy is preparation for death and rebirth, you fucking retard.

>>14789409
This is all well and good but fitfags just care about looks and narcissism.

>>14789511
>>14789613
>>14789646
>>14789757
very based...
>>14789556
>>14789635
>>14790012
>>14790030
holy cringe...

>>14789409
What does standing at a machine straining your muscles have to do with action? You are no different from the bugmen because the essence of what you do is similarly hollow, perhaps even worse.

>>14788038
>tdlr
stiffy on the iffy uh

>>14790050

>yep gotta keep dat bod in tip top for wagin tomorruh brehs

>Why do I workout so I can have my muscles glistening within the light of the sun? It's a way to let the everyday plebeian know that I was born from a higher stock, from the gods themselves.

Do you guys really not enjoy physical exercise? I love the agility and strength I have in my youth and try not to squander it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/cctpe1/from_a_overcompensating_gym_rat_to_cute_summer/

>>14790012
There are things called empirical studies. You should look into it.

>>14790096

>>14790050
Post face.

>>14790084
It's also the quickest way to get rid of depression. Even going for a walk is better than nothing.

>>14790125
And last effortpost

>>14790125

Skyrim stream tonight. Gotta recover from the swole. The gods are smiling upon us.

>>14790087
Sad. Why has womanhood become this?

>>14789624
lmao. Owned

>>14788103
cope

>The back plate to a bronze muscle cuirass decorated with two warrior heads dated 4thC BC. An engraving across the middle written in Greek translates as "for Athena - spoils from the enemy". A votive offering from a successful battle.
OP knows what's up.

>>14788038
Lift all you want. Doesn't change the fact that this is the peak Italian.

>>14790114
More like this.
Intelligence and physical attractiveness - Satoshi Kanazawa - Department of Management, London School of Economics and Political Science, United Kingdom
National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent to Adult Health (Add Health), 1994-2008 (ICPSR 21600)

Cringe.

You fags don't even realize that your heroes would be embarrassed for you if they read this. Fucking subplebs.

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>>14788103
every piece of information you perceive is an ability to act. if you can not properly act through your body, you're worthless.
also: absolute truth can only be known through action and never in theory. often also called belief.

>>14788049
>it's akshuly pronounced sowcratiis

>>14788160
Causation is not correlation, is this not one of the first fucking fallacies in logical theory that you'd have heard of? Most likely share a common cause, i.e. what would be considered "good" and healthy genetics - which would explain the correlation between the proper development of factors such as facial features etc. (whatever you constitute to be "attractive") and healthy cognitive development.

Unironically that view you've put forward is so retarded, even though I normally reserve this, if you won't or are genuinely unable to internally address the issues with that thought you should be euthanised - if for no other reason than to save you from the remainder of a miserable life devoid of the capacity for logos

>>14788038
>Reminder that Kant did two thousand sit-ups each morning before going down to the University of Königsberg fraternity to duel the latest members

You could have fooled me if it wasn't for this. This manlet never lifted in his fucking life.

Genuine intellectual curiosity, how do you so-called fitlit people internally reconcile the fact that in relation to study or any endeavour to add to the mind or consciousness (can be considered to be permanent for the sake that with its end comes death, so it is the one thing we'll possess for the entirety of our existence) is surely an infinitely finer use of our time than weight training or exercise (of the body, i.e. temporary relative to consciousness).

Enjoyed it formerly as a hobby, although recently an intellectual opposition as such has mounted against it, genuinely looking for an apt logical rebuttal, since now if I attempted it a part of my mind would be undermining my partaking in it and subconsciously sabotaging itself, if that makes some kind of sense.

Very much related: " 'If you are doing philosophy, that's good.' For that is the only way one can really be doing well. Without that, the mind is sick; and the body too, even if it has great strength, is sound only as that of an insane or deranged person might be. So care for the mind;s health first and foremost, and for the other only secondarily

[...]

"It is foolish, dear Lucilius, and befitting an educated man, to busy oneself with exercising the muscles, broadening the shoulders, and strengthening the torso. You may have great success with your training diet and your bodybuilding, but never will you match the strength hand weight of a prime ox. Besides, your mind is then weighed down by a more burdensome body. Restrict your body, then, as much as you can, and give more latitude to the mind.

Those who are obsessed with such a regimen incur many discomforts. First, the exercises exhaust the spirit with the effort and leave it with less energy for concentration and intense study."

>>14793294
*unbefitting

>>14790050
posting tradition and posts like this are truly a cancer endemic to this place which it has been infected by due to its unfortunate cohabitation on the site with certain fundamentally anti-intellectual and coarse boards.

Worst thing of practices like these are that whilst being made up of no substance, a simple word often - and at most two, they have a genuine effect on the subconscious of individuals, and therefore shapes whole communities by extension. Although if any board is likely to be more resilient to this kind of herd mentality, it would be lit.

>>14793294
>Besides, your mind is then weighed down by a more burdensome body. Restrict your body, then, as much as you can, and give more latitude to the mind.
This is based on a false dichotomy between mind and body. The brain is a physical organ, and constraining the body therefore constrains the mind. Many people may not notice the effects, as they have never pushed their bodies to peak performance and so have nothing to compare their experience to.
>Those who are obsessed with such a regimen incur many discomforts. First, the exercises exhaust the spirit with the effort and leave it with less energy for concentration and intense study."
Concentration is vastly improved by exercise; a fact noted by chess players for a long time. When Karpov was a young man training for the championship he was weak and sickly. His coach immediately put him on an intense physical regimen and forced him to endure military levels of discomfort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAhtMKhvG1A

>>14793575

I can fully understand something like the video suggests such as extreme cold to put you into a heightened state of alert and to clear your mind of distraction (which I guess the sensation of the cold achieves by disrupting the usual background chatter)

Although, Seneca didn't suggest to exhaust or degrade the body and later in the context of the quote he cedes that some physical exercise is necessary to keep the body from wasting away due to atrophy and suggests some kind of callisthenics which takes no longer than a few minutes.

In this way, seems to me to just be a recommendation to keep the body healthy - within reason, to fulfil its basic needs and to not overly concern yourself with eternally accumulating muscle mass and the likes

Are you also suggesting that the likes of bodybuilders or sportsmen have a greater cognitive capacity? If so I would ask why haven't we seen more great sportsmen as great thinkers throughout history and why is it that so many of those intellectually revered seem to fit Seneca's description of focusing their time on mental - rather than physical pursuits if as you suggest the mind is greatly augmented due to its relationship with the body?

>>14793652
>I can fully understand something like the video suggests such as extreme cold to put you into a heightened state of alert and to clear your mind of distraction (which I guess the sensation of the cold achieves by disrupting the usual background chatter)
You're trying to approach it like a meditation, but it is much more basic than that. Low temperatures stress the body, forcing it to adapt to change. Lab tests involving blood refrigeration devices have yielded similar results to steroid use, without the nasty side effects.
Your brain is dependent on a whole network of systems from the cardiovascular to the endocrine to the digestive. All of these systems are interconnected. You cannot just maximize a few things and expect your brain to work at peak performance. The whole organism has to be strengthened in unison, just as a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
>Are you also suggesting that the likes of bodybuilders or sportsmen have a greater cognitive capacity?
All else being equal, yes. A high-IQ sportsman will tend to be a better thinker than a high-IQ non-sportsman. Exercise also greatly alleviates the neurotic and depressive tendencies that intellectually oriented people tend to have.
>If so I would ask why haven't we seen more great sportsmen as great thinkers throughout history
A great thinker will tend to be remembered for his mental, rather than physical, achievements. No one celebrates Plato for his wrestling, but this doesn't mean that he was any less physically disciplined than the other wrestlers who were not philosophers.

>>14788038
Reminder that you are a pseud

I literally won a state championship in running, thereby presumably experiencing that "beauty and strength" and literally weeks after that race, I stopped running and have never seriously exercised again, after having run at least 50-70 miles a week for 4 years to get to that point. Then I decided that everything was pointless and literally became a heroin addict. I don't miss being in shape but I do miss heroin. What a world.

>>14794045
lmao

>>14793791
>>14793652
>>14793575
This is all irrelevant to what is being said though. You guys are arguing that mind follows the body. It's basically "I lift, therefore my mind thinks."
It's funny as a meme, but you don't seem to get the irony of the Chad meme. You take him as a literal hero.

>>14794767
>It's funny as a meme, but you don't seem to get the irony of the Chad meme.
I'm not basing these arguments on the Chad meme. I'm actually basing them on personal experience. As someone who has gone through periods of depression and NEETdom, I know what happens when you don't exercise. Your lack of exercise clouds the mind, which in turn worsens your physical habits.
This is a horrible vicious cycle that must be broken. If anyone here is in the abyss, I beg you to please go out for a run today. It will do you more good than all the 'self-help' books in the world.

>>14793575
>chess

>>14794045
Tell us more. Why did you decided everything was pointless?

>>14789624
Underrated.

>>14788083
bottom tier bait :(

>>14788038
>Reminder that Hegel would mock Schelling by deadlifting a 410lb crate full of Schelling's works and remark, "such light material, how could I tire myself on it?"

>>14790087
Why didn't he just embrace masc cross-dressing? It is the patricians fetish.