/lit/ - Literature

>what's the best method to remember and retain what I've read?
why do you want to do that?

>>14782524
read more. no really, read more take notes skim chapters than return to them and read in full attention. hopefully you're reading the kind of books that stick with you and are easier to remember.

how to read a book is a good place to start

>>14782524
what is it with plebs and stoicism? stoicism is the gayest boomer "philosophy" ever.

>>14782577
>read more.
what? you must be joking!
>no really
oh shit this nigga was serious!

>>14782535
>why do you want to do that?
Isn't that the basic idea of reading? To gain knowledge, expand your horizons, challenge your thinking, and retain it?

Imagine the books you could've bought with the money you spent on that.

Friendly reminder r8 threads are cancer

>>14782577
Thank you I will!

>>14782607
I don't know, instead of just saying the books I could of bought instead, why not name some and I'll add them to my reading list.

>>14782581
I don't know why you'd think that, I find stoicisms teachings to be very compelling. Especially with how shitty and superficial today's world is.

>>14782524
please for the love of god stop taking book recs from normies this is disgusting

You could of saved 100s of dollars by just buying homers odyssey and illiad. would of ''learned'' everything in that pile and a lot lot more.

>>14782708
So no suggestions than? Okay

>>14782741
"Just" Homers Odyssey and Illiad?

How basic

This is the peak of bugman young conservative memeshit

>>14782794
Yeah fuck you too pal, a number of my books may be basic, but nothing about me is bugman like. So much for constructive criticism, but than again this is 4chan so I should’ve expected as such.

>meditations, letters & essays, discourses
3.8/5
>man's search for meaning
3.8/5
>12 rules for life
3/5

All the other shit like the subtle art of not giving a fuck and these modern how 2 stoic are a bunch of cringy crap, and you know this.

"The art of not reading is a very important one. It consists in not taking an interest in whatever may be engaging the attention of the general public at any particular time. When some political or ecclesiastical pamphlet, or novel, or poem is making a great commotion, you should remember that he who writes for fools always finds a large public. A precondition for reading good books is not reading bad ones: for life is short." - Schopenhauer

Read the works of Homer, Plato, Aristotle,The Holy Bible, In the Buddha's Words: An Anthology of Discourses from the Pali Canon etc.

>>14782622
Start off by adding some novels to your collection. Just look into some of the /lit/ charts and read some of those.

>>14782825
You are a lost cause

>>14782524
>Also, what's the best method to remember and retain what I've read?
The simplest method is to recite what you've read either out loud or in your head at regular intervals until you've committed it to memory. This is not the same thing as taking notes or repeatedly reading notes. This is taking the time to actually recall information in your head without additional cues. Repetition without recall and recitation is a complete and utter waste time. Recitation is the only memory "trick" you'll ever need.

>>14782524
I estimate the OP's IQ is about 60.

>>14782679
read russell's history of western philosophy chapter on the stoics. it's kinda funny desu

>>14782858
>>14782880
Besides seeing my limited library of books, you know nothing about me.

>>14782524
>Mark Manson
Skip that so.i garbage. Tomassi and Glover are good. As the other anon said, read more. Quality over quantity.

>>14782952
I've seen enough.

>>14782846
Thanks for the ratings and suggestions
>>14782850
Thanks appreciate it!
>>14782871
That actually makes sense, thank you!
>>14782913
I'll look into it

Wow, actual constructive critique and helpful suggestions! How nice!

>>14782967
No you really haven't

>>14782952
This response speaks by itself.

>>14782984
How old are you?

>>14782581
Those famously-stoic boomers

>>14783091
29.

>>14782524
my biggest suggestion would be to throw all of those books into the trash and start over

>>14783091
26. Don't know who the fuck >>14783100 is
>>14783082
Sorry, I'm not very keen on being completely shat on by anons not offering anything of constructive value, and don't feel they deserve anything of value back.

>>14782524
Here you go anon

>>14782524
Another Classic

>>14783184
>>14783194
Based, thank you, I'll save these for later!

>The art of the deal
?

>>14783203
If you read it you'll understand Trump in realtime better than literally anyone following "news"

>>14783200

>>14783241
>by reading a book wrote by tony schwartz, you will understand trump

>>14783241
whats there to understand? hes just a run of the mill boomer with money.

>>14782581
nigger what

>>14783279
Exactly, explain where this hate for stoicism comes from?

>>14782593

no its to show off on 4chan

Practice recalling the main points of what you read when you are not reading

>>14783273
I never said he wrote it, anon. Learn to read for God's sake.

>>14783275
>Why is Trump shooting missiles at Syria/Iran/insulting people on twitter???
Questions nobody who read this book ever asked, but which have left heads spinning now for five years.

>>14783287
It got a revival a few years ago and now a lot of basic bitch self-help shills write "daily stoic" or "explaining stoicism" books that nobody needs.
There are three books in the Stoic canon, only three, they're all ancient and we dont need any more.

>>14783318
Those 3 are the ones I have, Discourses, Letters & Essays, and Meditations. They're all great books, but Discourses has been a challenging read for me so far, so reading other newer books that translates it to simpler terms makes it easier to understand. Then I go back and read the original texts to appreciate it better.

>>14782524
throw out half these books and buy real ones. I don't even care that its conservative shit, just read schmitt and heidegger instead of this garbage

>>14783368
Any books in particular from those two authors you'd recommend? They seem to have a lot of work to look through

>>14783318
I didn't said you did. Your premise is still retarded.
>learn how to read for God's sake

>>14783392
Schmitt you should read political theology, concept of the political, and the crisis of parliamentary democracy. Heidegger is a little bit tougher because you'll need secondary and some prelim reading to understand him. you'll probably want a familiarity with husserl first, then follow the plan for heidegger in this doc: https://mega.nz/fm/Y6JkVIJT

>>14783478
Thanks!

>>14783541
i dont think that link works. if you use this link then go to books>philosophy>continental philosophy that's the doc that was supposed to be linked

https://mega.nz/#F!JrhSyY6S!7qmTPol52TnmpFOdbag7RQ

>>14782749
>expecting people to handhold you
>trump
Is there a more reddit post on all of /lit/ right now?

>>14782524
A whole lot of shit here, though I suppose I can't tell you what you ought to enjoy. Read Freud.

>>14782524
Read Summa.

>>14782749
>Starship Troopers
>A Farewell to Arms
>The Bombay Boomerang
that should keep you occupied

>>14783200
Holy fuck you’re a faggot

christ, you niggerfaggot. don't come here ever again. your books are shit, your taste is shit, your attitude is shit. you sounds like sweden yes. is this truly what reddit is like, or is this a well engineered bait? also, here's a rec for you.

>>14782524
I swear these are slandering shitposts.

>>14784149
never underestimate OP

>>14784047
Thanks, I've been wanting to get Starship Troopers
>>14784149
>calls me a niggerfaggot and says my books are shit, recommends me a book that already in the OP image
Only niggerfaggot is you pal. Only reason my attitude is apparently shit, is most assholes responding are jumping down my throat insulting me and not providing anything constructive like a recommendation like others have. At this point I don't even know why I bother anymore.
>>14784379
Thank you anon, fucking owned

>>14784496
Watch out for the Relative theorists, they are part of the discordia gay op who keep intellects trapped in their own mind.

>>14784586
Thank you, I'm really confused with the amount of personal character attacks I've been receiving for even making this post. Like I know my selection is limited, but I was hoping for book recs that stem from what I have and can branch out further. Makes me feel bad for even engaging with this board because this is some /pol/ tier shit tossing and it's put me in a depressive state

>>14782524
Found the Redditor who migrated from r/TheDonald

>>14784627
This is 4chan, if you want nice people and book recommendations you should've gone to r/suggestmeabook. That said, although your book collection is bad, you are at least getting some reading done and developing a literary taste.

>>14784698
The reasoning behind my books is I deal with a lot of depression and anxiety most of my life and I've sought answers and guidance through self help books with The Subtle Art of Not Giving A Fuck being one of my earliest purchases in my adult collection. I later discovered Stoicism, and found its philosophy and beliefs in emotional regulation and general life guidance attractive and I ended up buying a bunch. How To Win Friends and Think and Grow Rich were gifts to me from my parents who just want to see me be happy. When Trump became president, buying his book was a no brainer to learn more about him as a person. I've been fascinated with Norse mythology for a while and wanted to learn more, which I plan on expanding on in the future.The Naked Communist was a cool purchase as its an original 2nd edition from the early 60's and it's scary how accurate it still is today. The Rational Male and No More Mr Nice Guy are desu kinda cringe, but I unsurprisingly struggle with woman, my parents are no help, so I've been trying to seek answers and develop myself further as a person. I haven't even touched 12 rules for life and You Mean I'm Not Lazy, Stupid Or Crazy is me trying to find help to manage my ADHD.

I get this is 4chan and people can be nasty, I've been here for a few years and I was expecting some shit, but dammit I didn't expect to get roasted this fucking bad. It sucks.

you seem interested in learning, id suggest starting with pic related, you can skip the liberal arts part and just focus on literature and philosophy for now, but eventually come back to it. there's a more in depth chart on the trivium if you find you like it. also remember, you'll feel burned out at times and some times you'll have to take breaks, but you should never read less than 5 pages of fiction a day and never go more than a week without studying harder stuff no matter how tough life gets.

>>14784742
>muh anxiety
>muh depression
>self help books
You can stay here and act like that all you like, but this reception is all you're gonna get.

>>14784379
holy fuck, he actually bought it

Every book a meme.

>>14782524
Aren't you embarrassed?

>>14784892
No, just irritated and disappointed

>>14784742
If those books have helped you, and you found some recommendations. Ignore the roast and keep reading whatever makes you happy anon.

>>14782524
>all that self help
basically kill yourself if you are 30

>>14784916
This, might as well pick up some Harry Potter op, that about the worth your collection is.

>>14784627
Faggot

>>14782524
What's a good book on stoicism and why?

>>14784940
>>14784970
Fuck you lay off on him

>>14782524
The little book of stoicism is decent but is far outdone by A Guide to the Good Life by William Irvine

>>14784742
Looks like those books didn't really help at all if your that butthurt about it. I suggest looking for new ideologies.

>>14782524
You may want to go to a different website that is better suited for people like you. May I suggest Goodreads?

>>14784627
I would literally cave in your skull with a heavy rock grug-style if the means to get to you were within my grasp

>>14782524
stoicism and trumpism... right...

>>14782524
>all these self-help tier stoicism books by literal whos
>The Subtle Art of Not Giving A F*uck
>The Art of the Deal
You know you're onto something when the second best book in your stack from the last 1000 years is by Ayn Rand. Anyway, throw away every book except the original stoics, the Norse books, Man's Search for Meaning and Ayn Rand if you feel like reading her.

>>14784742
Sounds like you should read this. Or maybe write the sequel.

>>14784975
>

so this.... is peak /lit/ performance........

>>14784627
It's your own fault for posting embarrassing self-help shit.
What does it feel like to be a mindless normie-drone? Actually, I don't want to know. Go back, faggot.

>>14783288
based

>>14782524
>>14782524
>No other sizes of this image found
Let me guess, you browse /r/theredpill, /pol/, and you're some teenage to twenty something low IQ loser half-halfheartedly trying to "self-improve". You're so basic, holy shit. Just read the books on the /lit/ charts and you'll laugh at this image in a few years, hopefully, assuming this isn't bait and you are capable of self-awareness.

>>14782524
>asks people to rate his books
>posts a stack of pamphlets
......
>anything less than 600 pages
>a "book"
Pick one

>>14782524
I just finished A Confederacy of Dunces. It was eye opening to what I could've become if I were slightly more autistic. It made me realize I shouldn't hold my "knowledge" over others, because in most cases it just makes you look like a pseud.

Nineteen year old business major detected. Throw out everything except Seneca.

>>14785232
I hope this is an elaborate bate but oh well. Ignore the shitty selfhelp books and read the stoics. While most followers are onion the philosophy is rather based. For the depression stuff unironically go excercise, that will make you happier in the short term than those reddit tier books. If you want some relatable /lit/ kafka and dosto should scratch that itch, but depending on how down you feel and your apparent interest in stoics maybe startwiththegreeks.jpg instead. If those books are all you have read chose some modern primer on the mythology and then read homer, the dramas and then continue with the philosophy beyond the stoics. And unless your completly autistic the self help stuff wont help you with relationships either, that comes from experience only so go leave your basement and get uncomfortable

please leave /lit/ and off yourself

>>14782524
>I'm slowly but surely reading through and digesting.
Good. The "I want to read x number of books this month" is a poisonous habit.

>>14782913
>read russell's history of western philosophy
>reading anything by russell outside of his logic/maths work
i hope you didn't read his history of western philosophy as though it was, in any way, authoritative

>>14782524
Why do you have so many books on Stoicism? Just read Epictetus and be done with it.

>>14782590
made me kek

>>14782524
I really hope this is a bait.

>>14784742
The Rational Male and 12 rules for life are great books anon. Don't let these guys bring you down!
I would recommend Jordan Peterson's Biblical Series on youtube, it helped me with depression and nihilism. For women, just get yourself out there and approach, it's a skill you develop also lift weights, this advice only is worth more than many books these greek-pseuds preach. Lets not turn this board in a Reddit fag-festival.

>>14787632
clean your room

>>14784742
You're a fucking retard

>>14784742
Imagine being such a subhuman faggot, you're anonymous on this site, why do you care if someone insults you? do you have autism?

>>14782524
cringe

>>14783318
>There are three books in the Stoic canon, only three, they're all ancient and we dont need any more.

While I'm not disagreeing with you, I also personally include a lot of Christian texts since at some point there was an attempt to incorporate stoicism into the church's practices. Someone who wants to dive even deeper into the pool might seek out a few Saints to read.

>>14782524
Embarrassing. Lurk for at least 2 years before you post again.

>>14782524

you need some fiction books.

also think on what you read. re-read passages and paragraphs that get your attention. ask yourself questions to see if you can accurately recall what you read. take notes.

>>14782581
It's just an incel cope. Chad doesn't need stoicism when he's fucking a new girl every night.