/lit/ - Literature

anything not tainted by jews is refreshing, which mostly means buddhists and greeks, skipping the hindus.

>>14773244
>>>/pol/

Dude it's been two thousand years. A lot of the greeks are basically turks now anyway.

>>14773216
They were able to create all they did because they lived in a state of constant internal conflict
That is conducive to coming up with new ideas or solutions, not to long term stability

>>14773260
Exactly. Why read books by a failed civilization? The Arabs are still around. Chinese are still around. Why bother reading Greek shit? Surely if they were smart they would have been a superpower.

>>14773264
The Arabs didn't generate anything. Saying that 'the Chinese' are still around is like saying that the Europeans are still around. Which they are
Moron

>>14773266
Europeans are not as homogeneous as the Chinese so that makes no sense.

>>14773216
It survived in spirit through Europe and as you know, Europe became the most powerful and enlightened continent in history.

>>14773264
The Arabs and islamic civilization are heavily influenced by the Greeks

>>14773244
...what?

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>>14773415
Go back

>>14773415
He means Christianity made Greeks dumb

>>14773430

Greek here, we aren't a failed state, even at our lowest point we are still wealthier than the majority of Europeans. We have like triple the GDP per capita of Turkey even after our household income got halved in the last 10 years. We just have a multitude of crises hitting us at the same time. All will be well eventually.

We've been at constant disarray, endless wars, civil wars, wars against Persia, Italians, Arabs, Turks, Germans, Bulgarians, even the fucking Vikings came down here. They all wanted a taste of what's great about us. Most importantly, plagues and financial issues have been prevalent since forever (we REALLY suck at the money thing).

Throughout our five thousand year history we have managed to do impossible things. We created the greatest epics, invented most sciences, designed the slickest architectural stuff ranging from the Parthenon to the Agia Sophia, birthed the greatest minds the world has ever seen, laid the foundation and created the blueprints for Western civilization, managed the greatest war feats ever, set the bar for strategic warfare, revolutionized naval warfare and created the first mega battleships, created Orthodoxy and managed to enlighten the entire Slavic population with Cyrillic, managed to repel the Eastern Arab hordes for literally a thousand years, we could have held up against the Ottomans if Venetians and the rest of Europe didn't stab us in the back, we almost got Constantinople back even though we were a nation 20 times smaller than Turkey, we fucked Italy so hard during WW2, we nearly got to Rome when we pushed back all the while fighting in 3 fronts. We are coming back from the worst recession and civil discontent since the time of Turkish oppression.

Sure we're small and our financials are still shaky, but those numbers and conditions have always been in our favor. Remember that.

>>14773260
Read how genetics work.

>>14773516
tldr

>>14773518
>tldr

It's fine. We're fine.

>>14773516
you can do it greece. i believe in you! but please stop the refugees

>>14773531
Fine? Like Iraq is fine? Greece is an irrelevant, failed state. Things could have been different if you weren't killing each other for 500 years.

>>14773516
muh look at all the things we did 2000 year ago. Hate to break it to you it's the 21st century bucko, you and your accomplishments have been left in the dust, your greatness is done, you hear me, finished. Feel free to keep living in 500 B.C though that era is over.

>>14773538
Tell me where you're from and I'll answer the question of how fine we are exactly in relation to you.

>>14773539
>we were great back when everybody was chucking spears
>we will be great again because we were great OVER 2000 years ago

>>14773542
Ukraine but I live in Canada. And yes Ukraine is a failed state too

>>14773539
I've listed plenty of examples of great things we did in the last 100 years, I can post more. My point is that we're relevant, you are a fuckboi nobody.

>>14773553
>plenty of examples of great things we did in the last 100 years
>only one actual examples
>"we... ugh... kicked Italy's bum!"
yes, but so did everybody else, kiddo.

This all sounds to me like jealousy.

You hate us cause you ain't us. Now go to the philosophy thread and suck Plato's dick.

>>14773560
>you hate us cause you ain't us

>>14773216
Modern Greeks have been turned into S*mite drones... they are fat peasants who hate homosexuals. Nothing noble left on that archipelago! It is not a racial problem, but a spiritual one.

>>14773561
Cope.

>>14773571
Cope of what? Do you even know what that means? What do the roaches inhibiting modern day Greece have to do with Plato?

>>14773566
>you are christian, christianity bad !!
You hate Christianity because you associate it with "Catholicism" , which is not Christianity and never will be.

>>14773577
An enlightened person would say that Genetics don't work the way you think, that you probably didn't get educated past middle school and that you're regurgitating lowest common denominator /pol/ memes. But I'm not an enlightened person so I'll just reply with

>cope

>>14773579
Hm? No. I more or less like Catholicism. It is not as infected with Germanic life-hating austerity as Protestantism, and isn't as provincial as Orthodoxy (though Orthodoxy has plenty of creditable attributes not present in Catholicism). I just find the loss of Greek paganism somewhat regrettable... look at the results of two-thousand years of Christian and Muslim occupation... these fat proles thumping their chests talking high and mighty about Socrates while mouthing off against fags. Decayed race.

>>14773591
Oh so you're an atheist fag. Ooookaaay then.

>>14773599
Not really. I am constantly drawn back to religion... I just cannot seem to believe... The fag part is true, of course...

>>14773605
You do realise though that fags were not much better off in ancient Greece compared to Byzantine Greece, right?

>>14773609
In what sense? I don't have anything much against the Byzantine world, just its modern residue...

>>14773615
Fags have always been pariah. No matter what religion dominated and where.

>>14773626
Plainly false. If by fags you mean effeminate men, then that does apply to many cultures, but what was considered effeminate was highly variable. With regard to Greco-Roman antiquity, submissive homosexual behaviour (in adult freeborn men) was often looked down upon, but dominant homosexual behaviour could even be an affirmation of one's manhood.

>>14773516
and this is why modern greece stagnates. lost in the glory of the past.