/lit/ - Literature

Not a commie btw

>>14772958
also

>>14772963
>>14772958
haha you've outed yourself as a brainlet

>>14772953
His criticisms of capitalism are pretty good, although I think his answer is wrong. Also, materialism sucks.
>>14772963
Read "Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum." It goes into far more detail about the problem of technology than Ted's screeds and you can even talk about it in public without coming off like an insane person. Ted just gets memed because if you are environmentally-conscious and he is your first introduction to "environmentalist" type literature it is easier for you to be groomed into a general extremist political milieu and then gradually radicalized by one flavor of violent cult or another.
>t. majored in ecology and wrote my thesis on pre-industrial origins of anthropogenic climate change

>>14773112
>Also, materialism sucks.
Yeah, but waddaya gonna do?

>>14773112
Advancing technology scares a lot of people, but they're just tools. You take the tools away the beast in the room is still there

>>14773122
Acknowledge that it is a bullshit metaphysical model and a false monism? Materialists will say that love is chemical reactions in your brain without even considering that those chemical reactions are merely the way that the material body interacts with the higher feelings of the soul. Materialism is shortsighted and any organizational systems based on it will inevitably be backwards and lacking in any of those things that come exclusively from the immaterial soul like compassion, love, and faith.
>>14773125
Of course, "original sin" or "scarcity of material resources" or however you wish to call the property of the material that causes evil. However, technology causes problems of its own that need to be recognized. Please just read the book before you comment on it.

>>14773167
>without even considering (the fairytale) that those chemical reactions are merely the way that the material body interacts with the higher feelings of the soul (which literally has never been spotted outside of fiction)
any organizational systems based on it will inevitably be backwards (in a funhouse mirror sort of way)
>love
You don't know love till you accept the material world.>>14773167

>Please just read the (Uncle Ted) book before you comment on it.
And I wait for anyone to refute Uncle Murray's refutation of it. Maybe it's you who ought to read Bookchin. The dream of stopping technology isn't to save the environment, is it?
If it is not, then it's no good to us. In fact it's not a dream but a nightmare.

>>14773167
>without even considering (the fairytale) that those chemical reactions are merely the way that the material body interacts with the higher feelings of the soul (which literally has never been spotted outside of fiction)
>any organizational systems based on it will inevitably be backwards (in a funhouse mirror sort of way)
>love
You don't know love till you accept the material world.

>>14773167
>Please just read the (Uncle Ted) book before you comment on it.
And I wait for anyone to refute Uncle Murray's refutation of it. Maybe it's you who ought to read Bookchin. The dream of stopping technology isn't to save the environment, is it?
If it is not, then it's no good to us. In fact it's not a dream but a nightmare.

>>14773200
>souls
>fiction
If you've only experienced "love" as a set of chemical reactions in your material body, then I would say that you don't know love.
>Please just read the (Uncle Ted) book
No, you retard. "Plows, Plagues, and Petroleum," the book I suggested to the Tedfag as a far better alternative to the ramblings of a murderer that will leave him socially-isolated and vulnerable to being groomed into a destructive but unproductive secular cult.
>maybe it's up to you to read Bookchin
I have. I have literally read every single one of Bookchin's environmentally-focused works. I literally have an MS degree in this subject. I know that doesn't mean anything on this rotten board and that you probably won't believe me at all, but please just shut up. Bookchin is literally just the New-Left-flavored version of "neoliberalism will result in new technological developments that will save us." Please just stop. Also, next time you try editing the things someone types into bait taglines, please try brackets instead of parentheses.

>>14772933

>>14773265
what's the point of this?

>>14773112
>materialism sucks.
the masses are slowly getting hip to this sentiment

This book ruined the sixties for me and actually makes me wonder what media is and isn't propaganda.

>>14773603
tell us more

literally eye opening

>>14773639
Most of the big musicians from the late sixties were either involved with or had family in intelligence or high level military and some were even from extremely wealthy families. The Hippies were created to destroy the anti-war movement.

>>14772939
kek

>>14773645
An extremely profound thought. Taro Gomi has observed a fundamental nature to beings; precisely beings that are alive. In doing this, she has not only led to this most profound thought but has elaborated on the distinction of living and not-living.

>>14773240
t. pseud

>>14773665
thinking about Jim Morrison this makes absolutely no sense. his father was in the army but hated his son's career.

>>14773682
Jim Morrison is featured prominently in the book. Zappa, Crosby Stills and Nash, Momma's and Papas, The Byrds, Gram Parsons, etc etc were all in on it. You should read it.

>>14773681
kek

>>14772933
Completely changed the way I think about money and politics.
It's really weird how simple his explanations are about common misconceptions, yet, more people still believe in them than not.

>>14773603
careful there, figuring out that the government controls popular culture is slippery slope. Next you might find out that the publisher of the Nation magazine is the daughter of a founding member of the CIA, and that Anderson cooper is CIA, and the National Review was founded by the CIA.

Once you make the connection that the government control the overton window just like they have demonstrably done in other countries, there is no going back. You will find it hard to respect the unenlightened and unable to talk about it in mixed company.

>>14773862
Programmed to Kill goes way deeper into the Rabbit hole than that. I think it's actually better than Weird Scenes.

>>14772933
I found the uncensored version to be much more life changing.

>>14773521
What are you refereeing to?

>>14773167
>Dude, the physical process in the brain is how soul interact with body
Literally Deepak Chopra-tier.
Kill yourself.

>>14773240
>the book I suggested
You aren’t anybody different from anyone else here, so I was mistaken this once.
So how come you’re you're unaware that it isn’t technology, but human greed that causes the problems? Look, I’m just picking at the uncle Ted argument and you’re bellyaching about parentheses and calling a socialist a neoliberal. A degree. Pppf

>>14773862
Tell me about it!

>>14773993
Catholic shit he’s been told

>>14773836
>It's really weird how simple his explanations are about common misconceptions
Doesn't Sowell have an entire seperate volume dedicated to this?

>>14772933
https://discord.gg/E22wu2Y

>>14773112
How are you to effect change without radical measures?

nice strawman btw

>>14773112
I don't give a fuck about the environment or how technology is destroying it. I care about my freedom and how technology is depriving me of that.

And you don't really care about the environment either.

>>14775007
based mindreader

the mulamadhyamakakarika

>>14773596
give me a rundown.

bump

>>14773112
Just go one step further in ecological views.

>>14773603
This book was a downer for me too but I still love The Doors

Unironically

I now believe that wagecucks should not be citizens, natural slaves must be used by their masters and that communitarianism is the only sensible solution.

>>14775790
Normalfags can’t handle that Linkola-pill

>>14773521
Based /m/ poster.

>>14775951
uhm... based??

>>14772933
>having a "worldview"
there's your first mistake nerd

>>14775951
??? I dont understand why, since most wars are either over within a decade where there are not going to be to much repletion or are intermediate to the point where extermination isnt really the end goal (100 years war)