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>>14770998
Hans Zehrer said something like that. Also that Spengler's (and others) pronounced pessimism means we feel we don't even have it in us to make things better.

I don't think that linear view of history is faustian. It comes from abrahamic religions or magian culture, in which there are cycles, but time is linear. Although said view is quite fitting to faustian view.

Linear time isn’t the ursymbol of Faustian culture though

>>14771127
Faustian and Magian sense of time are both linear but whereas Magian begins with Creation and ends with Judgement, Faustian is always working towards some higher goal. God is absolutely everything in Magian culture, but the will to power (the upward trend, the achievement) is the goal of Faustian history. Hence the ancient, medieval, modern division. The present has been worked for and the future is to be worked for.

>>14771149
But the idea of linear time came to europe through christianity. Pagans still saw world through repeating cycles, and when it comes to will to power, I haven't read nietzsche but didn't he write something about eternal reoccurrence? Which is basically syclical view of time, or that's how I understand it.

We aren't in the decline yet

Maybe only if your problem is the name given to the civilization- Faustian- hitting the nail on the head too perfectly. Faustian implies inevitable defeat in its name. Perhaps we'd be on the rise if we hadn't realized the entire enterprise was Faustian, but now that we've realized that all we can do is eye the decline rather than lust for the achievement

>>14771372
Damn, how bad will it get?

>>14771493
Whats bad about the west?

>>14771322
Indeed, the idea of linear progress was a side effect of the Incarnation.

>>14771514
Probably something about a black dude being cast in his favorite tv show

>>14770998
Yes. Spengler himself believed so, and his work was about
1. Accepting our circumstances
2. Taking purposeful actions on the basis of these circumstances, without trying to get back to our Spring
Spengler was an atheist and considered himself a "roman among greeks".
Which is why he discouraged the history of philosophy and science and encouraged his readers to pursue career as entrepeneurs, engineers, soldiers

>>14771514
It would be much easier to say what is good.

>>14771546
>Probably something about a black dude being cast in his favorite tv show