/lit/ - Literature

This work pulls its meat from the Jewish Kabbala tradition with a Christian fusion, and the mystery religions of ancient Greece.

>occult literature
You already posted it. Would add Agrippa's three books, and the Picatrix.

It's all bullshit though. Man is a nothing, power does not bend to a nothing except by mercy.

>>14765017
This may be a little modern, an slightly disconnected from some occult traditions, but I thoroughly enjoyed pic related.

>>14765029
Picatrix is overrated. Really not much going on there.

>>14765017
tfw I read some occult literature and it's just gay mystic self help bullshit that retards think is cool because there are latin words sprinkled in.

>>14765029
With a merciful approach said powers collaborate with the nothingness of man, for it transcends such nothingness to a noble state. But yeah, most of it is bs, I’m just trying to find the less bs, most rare an occult texts, I know Latin for the most part so I’m trying to find (with little luck) first editions. A lot of shit is made up or lost in translation. Not to mention once an “occult” book becomes popular and cases like the wiccraps appear it loses even the last bit of credibility.
>Picatrix
Arabic zodiac bs but somewhat ok.

>>14765044
My sentiments about occult books in general, anon. They're almost all a shallow invented mythology, written by literal retards after the fall of enlightened civilization.

>>14765056
This. Why are you me.

>>14765065
>Almost all
Yeah, looking for the ones that are not. Posted this in hope some anons will have some knowledge of that 1%

>>14765065
Um, no sweetie. The occult is at the root of enlightened civilization.

>>14765029
Man is greater than god

>>14765060
A fair assessment.

>With a merciful approach said powers collaborate with the nothingness of man
loooooool

Spirits come in two varieties, OP: truth tellers and deceivers. Angels bear the message of the truth. Demons have a mouth full of convincing lies and obfuscation. The latter are by definition incapable of mercy. The former are mercy's agents. Occultism is a game that was rigged from the start.

Where do I start with hermetic alchemy?

>>14765098
would you not say that Scripture hid its meaning from the vulgar masses? That it veils its knowledge in obscure language? My point is Scripture itself is occult.

>>14765074
Then stick to Neoplatonism / Iamblichus. I wouldn't even mess with Jewish mysticism, not because it's dangerous just because it's too fucking complicated and literally a life's worth of study to get right. You wouldn't know what you're doing.

>>14765111
Aha, but that's not what occult means in 21st century English. You're speaking of mysteries. Which is why I recommended Iamblichus. That's as far as you ought to go, and it's somewhat credible vs the nonsense dreamed up by European peasants in the early middle ages between bouts of wiping their ass with pinecones.

>>14765105
You don't.

>>14765017
Authors that I have read and can recommend:
>Manly Hall
>Albert Pike
>Blavatskey
>Cornelius Agrippa
>Éliphas Lévi
>Aliester Crowley
>Kenneth Grant
>A.E. Waite
>C.G. Jung
>S.L. Macgregor Mathers
>Dion Fortune

Contemporary authors:
>Johannes Nefastos
>N.A-A 218
>Jeremy Christner
> Andrew Chumbley
>Daniel Schulke
>Vexior
>Mark Alan Smith

>>14765122
Fair point and thanks for the recommendation. Modern occultism is a bunch of LARPers.

>>14765190
One of those is not like the others.

>>14765202

Blavatskey?

>>14765210
Jung. If you had understood his work, you wouldn't have listed him among those others.

>>14765215
Jung regularly consulted the I-Ching for his patients and drew up horoscopes for them. He's an occultist. Maybe he larps as a "psychoanalyst", but in reality he's just another occultist. The whole concept of synchronicity is occult in essence.

>>14765215
So you don't think his writings would be of interest to those studying the occult?

>>14765222
He is an occultist in a higher sense. No baseless speculations or clairvoyant roleplay is seen in his works. All empirical, phenomenological, knowledge. Which makes him miles ahead of the others.

>>14765244
You think Jung didn't believe in clairvoyance? lmao. And how is clairvoyance not empirical? Do you even know what the word "empirical" means?

>>14765237
I think namely the opposite. He is the best way to understand the occult

>>14765247
Drawing inspiration is different from basing knowledge. Not to say clairvoyance isn't real, but it's not a good foundation for knowledge and Jung acknowledges it.

>>14765017
https://discord.gg/X5uk75G

>>14765244
I don't see how that makes him much different than Hall or Pike, both of whom (to me) reflected that same level of scholarship.
I can agree the others were not relianent on empirical data, which is what I believe separates mysticism from science. But I think viewing their works through the lens of Jung, and from a keen understanding of history, one might be able to take more away than from simply believing every account at face value.

>>14765197
>>14765017
If you're gonna go that way, might as well read the Dead Sea Scrolls as well. Get a study version. And if you haven't carefully read the Hebrew Bible get to it.

>>14765215
Jung was a mystic anon. He documents his experiences in the Red Book.

bump

>>14765078
That book is so fucking good on explaining occultism on society. lacks drawings tho.

>>14765272
I got a first volume of the dead sea scrolls, one in English and one in french, and it's amazing how much of it was chopped off on the English version. As for the Hebrew Bible, do you mean the Torah or the Tanakh? I don't know hebrew at all and it's a pain in the ass because I feel like I'm missing stuff when I get translated versions.

>>14765128
I was on that thread and /k/ isn’t even my home board. Good times.

>>14765128
I can't believe this. Why.

>>14765244
>clairavoyance
Jung claimed to have predicted the world wars in the red book
>roleplay
Jung published Seven Sermons to the Dead pseudonymously

>>14765078
Madame Yates died so that we may receive the errors of our arts.

>Hermeticism:
Corpus Hermetica -- Copenhaver
Hermetica II -- Litwa
The Egyptian Hermes -- Fowden
The Eternal Hermes -- Faivre
>Neoplatonism and Ancient Greek Religion:
The Shape of Ancient Thought -- McEvilley
Ancient Philosophy, Mystery, and Magic -- Kingsley
The First Philosophers -- Waterfield
The Pythagorean Sourcebook and Library -- Guthrie
Complete Works -- Plato
Complete Works -- Aristotle
Enneads -- Plotinus
Elements of Theology -- Proclus
De mysteriis -- Iamblichus
Commentary on the Dream of Scipio -- Macrobius
Chaldean Oracles - Majercik
The Orphic Hymns -- Athanassakis
Hesiod and the Homeric Hymns -- Hine
Theurgy and the Soul -- Shaw
Philosophy and Theurgy in Late Antiquity -- Uzdavinys
Philosophy as a Rite of Rebirth -- Uzdavinys
Orpheus and the Roots of Platonism -- Uzdavinys
>Occult Philosophy:
Western Esotericism: A Guide for the Perplexed -- Hanegraaf
Three Books of Occult Philosophy -- Agrippa
Cause, Principle, and Unity: and Essays on Magic -- Bruno
Transcendental Magic: Doctrine and Ritual -- Levi
Introduction(s) to Magic -- Evola
Occult Traditions -- Cheak
>Gnosticism:
Seven Sermons to the Dead -- Jung
The Gnostic Bible
The Bible
The Gnostic World
>Kabbalah:
Inner Space -- Kaplan
Jewish Meditation -- Kaplan
Meditation and Kabbalah -- Kaplan
Sefer Yetzirah
Bahir
Zohar
Etz Chayim
>Cabala:
Platonic Theology -- Ficino
Oration on the Dignity of Man -- Mirandola
>Angel Magic:
Five Books of Magic -- John Dee
>Grimoire tradition:
Techniques of Graeco-Egyptian(/Solomonic) Magic -- Skinner
Encyclopedia Goetica -- Stratton-Kent
Greek Magical Papyri -- Betz
Picatrix
>Alchemy:
Alchemy and Mysticism -- Taschen
Psychology and Alchemy -- Jung
Alchemy -- von Franz
The Hermetic Tradition -- Evola
The Forge and the Crucible -- Eliade
Alchemical Traditions -- Cheak
Mysteries of the Cathedrals -- Fulcanelli
Dwellings of the Philosophers -- Fulcanelli
>Astrology:
Tetrabiblos -- Ptolemy
>Tarot:
Way of the Tarot -- Jodorowski
Meditations on the Tarot -- Tomberg
>Paracelsianism:
The Alchemical Writings of Paracelsus
>Boehmeian Theosophy:
Aurora -- Boehme
>Rosicrucianism:
The Rosicrucian Enlightenment -- Yates
Rosicrucian Trilogy -- Godwin
>Freemasonry:
Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry -- Pike
>Illuminism:
The Secret School of Wisdom -- Wages
>Swedenborgianism:
Heaven and Hell -- Swedenborg
>Blavatskian Theosophy:
Isis Unveiled -- Blavatsky
The Secret Doctrine -- Blavatsky
The Mystic Qabalah -- Fortune
>Golden Dawn:
The Golden Dawn -- Regardie
>Thelema:
Magick: Book 4, Liber ABA -- Crowley
>Typhonian:
The Magickal Revival -- Grant
The Nightside of Eden -- Grant
>Traditionalism:
The Crisis of the Modern World -- Guenon
The Reign of Quantity and Sign of Times -- Guenon
>New "Thought":
Kybalion -- "Three Initiates"
"Initiation Into Hermetics" -- Bardon
>Shamanism:
Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy -- Eliade

>>14767501
"Hebrew bible" generally means tanakh.

Bible hub is a good resource if you don't know Hebrew (or Greek) but still want to get an idea of what the original says
https://biblehub.com/text/psalms/23-4.htm

>>14769419
Is the midrash worth reading? I wanna learn about Lilith

What's the point of philosophy that isn't occult? I've never gotten anything out of it, it just seems like mental masturbation.

>>14765029
Agrippa himself said that his three books were bullshit when he got older. I believe he said they were the fruit of his juvenile naivety.

>>14769408
How long did it take you to read all this?

>>14765027
I always wondered why the obsession about angel classification

>>14769796
Are you new? No one who makes recommendation charts/lists actually reads books

>>14765044
I picked up some lines and the "Perfect nature" chapter from the Picatrix. Is anything else worth studying from that book?

>>14769806
Skip around. Just pass over the long sections of talisman drawing instructions and see if you can pick up some gems here and there. IMO even the philosophical/theoretical sections of the Picatrix are meh

>>14769489
Are you saying non-occult philosophy is pointless? If so, why?

what's wrong with wiccan shit?

>>14769807
Does anyone even read books at all here? How do I know if that list is even worth it.

>>14769861
Look up the books individually, read their descriptions and Amazon reviews, then decide if it’s what you’re looking for

mandatory

>>14769854
It’s NPC feminist mental relief for brainlet w*men, Anon.

>>14769796
>>14769807
>>14769861
I've been reading various philosophy for about ten years now (twenty if you count the pseud stuff I read as a teen). Always been a sucker for the esoteric. Getting a PsyD currently. Jungian/psychodynamic.

>>14769865
It’s what I usually end up doing. Just thought I might get some reliable info on this Lebanese oryx trading image forum.

>>14769878
>porn for pseuds

>>14769879
are you only saying this because of the sex magic stuff

>>14765078
This book goes further in detail, dissecting the personalities and works of court alchemists as well as texts considered to be "Rosicrucian". My favorite section is the account of Dee and Kelley's mystiboobery in Central Europe, Kelley is a dysfunctional weirdo with severed ears who tells Dee that angels compel them to share each other's wives.

>>14769887
Thanks anon! I’m somehow more reluctant about your recommendations now.

This thing any good? Any better books regarding the history of the occult and the third Reich?
PS not a nazi fag, just interested in the dumb shit that they pulled

>>14769899
No, because any literature that’s female based and which primary consumers are females is redundant, substance lacking and laughable.
>inb4 have sex incel
I do, thanks. Just my 2 cents Anon. Better to realize it sooner than wasting your time.

>>14769972
>No, because any literature that’s female based and which primary consumers are females is redundant, substance lacking and laughable.
What a terrible belief to hold. You're automatically relieving yourself of literature (and presumable art) written by and intended for 50 per cent of the population. No one understands women better than a woman, and you're doing yourself a disservice by actively avoiding any and all feminist literature.

>>14769854
Wiccan is ahistorical. It was invented by Gardner. Authentic witchcraft is hard to find. Trad witchcraft mostly involves buying overpriced books. Most neopaganism is poor reconstructionism with existentialism, feminism, group sex, and drug abuse with worship of so-called balance of nature (disproved by science) tacked on.

All neopagan movements are cringe as fuck, ESPECIALLY Asatru and Rodnovery. Wicca is the least cringe because it pisses off all the other neofagans to no end.

>>14769994
Where did I mentioned that I avoided such literature? On the contrary, my despise for its mediocrity and popularity blooms from my own indulgence on Wiccan literature and pagan “magic“, even the pathetic excuse of a book that they sell at hot topic, as well as the less-laughable but still redundant old “Wiccan texts” that of course have been “revamped” by a well renowned feminist. In any case — I thank you for your concern on my knowledge, the concern is mutual, Anon.

>>14770100
>>14770056
This. Fuck off /lit/ w*men enabler.

>>14770073
True. Chaos magick is most based occultism for similar reasons.
>>14770100
That said but...
>tfw no wiccan priestess gf to be initiated into deeper mysteries by my hermetic caduceus
Feels bad man

>>14765017

>>14770133
"Know the death posture and its annihilation in duality of law, in that day of tearless lamentation the universe shall be reduced to ashes...But he escapes the judgement!"
Austin Spare was the maddest of lads.

>>14770429
Funny how we drive meaning from absolute nonsense.

>>14770429
For I am I: ergo, the truth of myself; my own sphinx, conflict, chaos, vortex—asymmetric to all rhythms, oblique to all paths. I am the prism between black and white: mine own unison in duality.

>>14769514
Did he actually mean it, or was he under pressure by the Catholic Church?

>>14770056
Correct. Try telling a wiccan that ancient pagan societies were actually proto-fascist and patriarchal, and they will screech themselves out of the room.

>>14770818
Blackmail claims by pressure.

>>14770885
It’s one of my favorite things to do actually; one time this self proclaimed “witch” tried to counteract the argument by saying that Wiccan and neo-paganism has always been a feminist ideology and that the “new order of witches” is better. All whilst holding her 50 shades book.

>>14765017
>watches Hereditary once

>>14770623
It's very *convincing* nonsense!

>>14771163
So pretty much 4chan

>>14771892
Replace "convincing" with "embarrassing".

Written by one of the archaeologists who first assessed the contents of the Nag Hamadi texts. In addition to presenting their findings he includes excerpts written by the gnostic's enemies such as Irenaeus and the Neoplatonists to fill out the dimensionality of their obscured identity. I assume the gnostics in the other thread are here already but I'll post it there too.

Bump

>>14767913
Yeh I wonder how he is now.

>>14767938
Why do retards go playing with the occult? Same reason. Curiosity.

>>14767501
Like anon said, Tanakh. It will suffice to get an NRSV Holy Bible with the deuterocanonical books. There ought to be a good translation in your native language, but it helps imo if you read in English. Supplement with dictionaries if you want to.

I'm a shitty magician. It's so hard.

>>14765017
The greeks

I have finally read Marcus Aurelius and it actually contains esoteric teachings.

The unfortunate truth is that very little of this leads to actual enlightenment. The only thing on here that's remotely close is >>14765027 and some of the kabbalah stuff from >>14769408.

You will not find enlightenment or real truth in anything in the western tradition typically labeled occult. This is because there are no realized masters in these traditions, there is not an unbroken lineage of spiritual authority in these traditions. You will not fine enlightenment in the golden dawn, in hermeticism, in the OTO / Thelema, in Luciferianism, in Wicca, in Freemasonry, in Euro Paganism. Again, THESE TRADITIONS HOLD NO TRUE ENLIGHTENMENT.

You would need to find a living teacher who is a realized master, who has walked all steps of the path. You need an initiation from an unbroken lineage. You would find that in Eastern Orthodoxy, in Sufi Islam, in real Kabbalah (like Hasidic or Lurianic Kabbalah), in Buddhist or Hindu Tantra, in Daoism maybe.

Western Esotericism is unfortunately dead. You need to search elsewhere, the rest is psychological self confirmation and larping.

>>14773375
Hard truth to swallow

>>14765017
What's wrong with Wicca? :(

>>14765190
>Authors that I have read and can recommend:
>>Manly Hall
>>Albert Pike
>>Blavatskey
>>Cornelius Agrippa
>>Éliphas Lévi
>>Aliester Crowley
>>Kenneth Grant
>>A.E. Waite
>>S.L. Macgregor Mathers
>>Dion Fortune
>Contemporary authors:
>>Johannes Nefastos
>>N.A-A 218
>>Jeremy Christner
>> Andrew Chumbley
>>Daniel Schulke
>>Vexior
>>Mark Alan Smith

>>14773375

based

>>14773707

Cornelius Agrippa is comfy bro

>>14773685
See
>>14770056

any occult books that dont deal with anything particularly dangerous? Occult seems very interesting, but seems dangerous for one who cannot discern what not practice etc.

>>14774002
Agrippa's Three Books

>>14774009
Really? Arent things like ceremonial magic dangerous? and I've heard there are no 'how-to's to practice the contents, so may be at a loss there

>>14774015
Three books is mostly theoretical, yes.

Theoretical magic is endorsed by most religion as an actually existent natural phenomena within the world even if most religions advise against the practice itself.

>>14774298
So, how would you get value out of the three books? Would you recommend certain book to start practicing? Or does it contain philosophical writings?

>>14774330
Three books is a philosophical tome that amalgamates a bunch of ancient knowledge (and gets a lot wrong) -- still worth reading tho if you are interested in philosophy and occultism and history. The sheer breadth of knowledge is incredible for the period it was written in. Not really the best place for starting practice however.

For practice? Hmmm... Probably I'd suggest Liber Null & Psychonaut by Peter Carroll, The Book of Pleasure by AOS, and Liber ABA by Crowley for three separate perspectives. Yes, they also got a lot wrong (particularly Crowley) but they are also extremely practical and provide multiple workable paradigms for the discerning modern occultist. I'd also possibly suggest Hanegraaf just for the historical overview found in A Guide for the Perplexed although he is completely academic and agnostic. Jung's Red Book is honestly pretty workable too. Recently been inspired by that.

What are you into?

Explain to me the weird Gnostic autism about Satan/Lucifer.

>>14774453
Well, I'm into Jungian psychology, and aim to get round to reading the Red Book. I'm also into eastern mysticism like the Yogic, Tibetan, Taoist traditions and practices.

But I'm also interested in the occult and esoteric teachings. If I were to ACTUALLY practice magic, i'd never want to harm anything in anyway nor infringe upon someone's freewill.

I'm reluctant, though, because of general dangers. Also, because of things like initiation, where you have to do ALL of it or nothing at all, or doing something wrong, or not frequently enough can lead to unpleasantries to say the least.

Also, interactions with 'negative' entities also puts me off a lot.

Is there anything which is based and or redpilled, which fits my simp tendancies lmao

>>14765190
Any thoughts on Austin Spare?

>>14774546
Interesting. I am very similar. Contrary to popular belief about black magic and so on, much esotericism (I prefer the term to occultism) is indeed focused on self work. I would recommend looking into literature regarding the intersection of the greek daimon and the zoroastrian/abrahamic tradition of the holy guardian angel -- I think working with a sort of higher self entity like that is exactly what Jung did with Philemon.

Aside, but have you read Sloterdijk? I think Art of Philosophy and You Must Change Your Life fit in well with the Hadot books mentioned in this post: >>14769408
He also has an interesting angel concept which I think intersects.

And you have read Eliade on initiation? Rites and Symbols of Rebirth? Good stuff.

If you're Christian then Meditations on the Tarot is mostly orthodox if you ignore the sophiology.

>>14774567
>>14774453
>Book of Pleasure by AOS
You caught that right? Love the man. That's one my favorite works of his. Zos Speaks is pretty interesting too. Logomachy and Zoetic Grimoire are good. Plus the personal anecdotes. One of Grant's most sane writings too. Alas Inferno to Zos is so expensive -- would love a complete edition of his works.

>>14774546
>>14774642
Also:
>into yogic shit
Read the Yoga Sutras -- I believe the siddhis explain most occult phenomena.

>>14765017
https://discord.gg/E22wu2Y

>>14765017
Fuck off Taj

>>14774650
>>14774546
Have a red book quote, my fellow journeyman

>>14774642
Thanks for the recs, very interesting.

Yes, esotericism focused of self mastery is of interest to me, i have Initiation into Hermetics and The Mystical Qabalah on a 'to read' list - they seem more focused on this aspect.

Stuff like Crowley, I have heard, has 'traps' hidden in his work for the uninitiated, giving mindfog or something.

Do you know of any books pertaining to (white) magic, for gnosis, protection, positive outcomes, clairvoyance/claircognizance, enhancing siddhis etc etc. (apologies for the broad sprawl of examples)

>>14774650
Yes, will certainly read it. Have you read Autobiography of a Yogi? There are many fascinating accounts of such siddhis written in there.

>>14774537
Some gnostics believe the demiurge is flawed and not the true god because the world is flawed (but not completely fallen due to the presence of wisdom within man). Some other gnostics also believe that the serpent was actually a good guy for giving knowledge and that Jesus is the avatar of the serpent and not the demiurge.

>>14774712
Very true. I was not really interested in reading Philosophical works before for this reason.

But I think, it is beneficial to balance the path of knowledge with that of our own path and intuition, and by reading these books, they can open new doorways, which one can choose to walk down.

>>14773884
Cornelius Agrippa himself said most of what he wrote was false. Anon's will claim he was being pressured by the catholic church while nothing indicates that.
It's all a pretty shitty LARP

>>14774717
>autobiography of a yogi
Never read. Heard good things. You might like Vivekenanda's Raja Yoga if you like that. Autobiography plus commentary and translation of the yoga sutras. Vaguely theosophical however. I would recommend reading multiple translations and commentaries too. Some older and some newer. Fantastic text. Better than Gita or Upanishads, IMO. Cryptic tho.
>mystical qabalah
Read it. Liked it. Good intro to hermetic qabalah. Helpful for getting into jewish kabbalah if you care to too. Not much to say. Also pretty theosophical. Recent esotericism tends to view theosophy negatively but meh.
>initiation into hermetics
Weird book. Some swear by it. I was turned off by the language used. Seemed silly. Practices seemed mostly harmless, or at least the first few before I put it down and never picked it back up.
>crowley
>traps
Lol. Ya. Idk. I am a victim myself. Either I am an auto-initiate or a madman. Not sure. Fucked me up hard. But I got better. If you are hungry for knowledge and power there is no more quick crash course though it is also dirty and dangerous and carries risk of death and insanity. Lol. Your mileage may vary. I have since moved on because his scholarship is poor but he was very inspirational at a certain time and place in my life.
>white magic
Look for books on i-ching, tarot, runes, dream interpretation, meditation, yoga, etc. White magic tends not to be labeled occult. Eventually you will develop a relationship with a power greater than yourself and have mystic insight.
>>14774740
Indeed!

>>14769926
>This thing any good? Any better books regarding the history of the occult and the third Reich?
bruh. you got to read Joseph Farrell

>>14774872
Thanks for all the recs, anon!

Yes, I have been thinking about the i-ching recently. Might hold out until I can read it in classical chinese.

>White magic tends not to be labeled occult
Yeah, im already getting into most of the stuff mentioned. I guess its just the aesthetic of magikal books and grimoires is v enticing. Thats how they get ya lmao.

>>14774965
Some pretty occult books that I've read and I'd recommend:

>Ethos
>Zos Speaks
>Entering the Desert
>Azoetia
>Sacrificial Universe


All pretty high level but mostly without traps as far as I can tell and fairly seriously grounded. Unfortunately some are pricy nowadays...

Red Book is nice but too bulky. Prefer the reader's edition for studying.

Also, just buy hardbacks and stuff like I-ching will look quite beautiful on your shelf.

Cheers! :^)

How do I realize I'm the eternal witness?

>>14775146
>sit still
>quiet inner voice
>???
>prophet!

>>14774872
Traps for the uninitiated? How does one become initiated?

>>14775233
There's the issue of sloppy scholarship and deliberate blinds. People call both these traps. The deliberate blinds serve to conceal dangerous information tho some say it is equally dangerous to conceal them. Sloppy scholarship is self-explanatory. Don't worry too much about it. Just read around before you practice. Don't become a crowley cultist and worship the man as infallible after one book.

>>14769835
I said why but my post was poorly written.
It seems pointless based on my experience. Meanwhile occult literature has helped decode the world around me in ways I'd never thought possible. I can only assume that academic philosophy is, at least in part, a containment for directionless intellect.

Why is it called occultic if it is globally known?

Thoughts on Styxhexhenhammer666's work?

>>14775323
cringe

>>14775317
It related not to being hidden, that is esoteric, but the idea of occult forces (electricity was once considered one) -- tho it also is suppressed by religious and scientific mainstream...

>>14775336
Are you sure about that? I somehow find occult books full of things that are just interpretative, what can occult lit give me that for example mythology, philosophy or psychology cant?

>>14775350
That's what Hanegraaf says in Dictionary of Gnosis and Esotericism. He finds esotericism a more suiting name as well. It definitely feeds into the popular conception of occult as shadowy and thus dark forces etc. which is certainly prevalent and drags down the wider field of practitioners unfortunately with edgelordism.

>philosophy, psychology, mythology
Honestly, it offers little that is not offered in those fields. Except perhaps a different viewpoint. More instrumental and pragmatic. Esoteric and occult literature is usually just an exercise in syncretic mythology and comparative philosophy and visionary psychology.

Read it the way you'd read any other religious or cult pamphlet. Why restrict yourself to the texts of mainstream religions? Fringe is cool. And dates back far...

For anthropological academic analysis of magic you want stuff like pic related. They too believed there was something to it.

>>14775408
>it offers little that is not offered in those fields.
Explain

>>14775674
Not him, but here's what I have to say. Psychology is utilitarian in nature. Reminder that alchemy and modern science functioned the same, but the importance of myth, aesthetics, and the importance of the observer were castrated

>>14773375
>Not reaching enlightment through Plato, Plotinus and taking high doses of psylocibe

>>14775674
Esotericism is mythology, philosophy, and psychology.
>>14775862
Based.

>>14775721
Right, they wouldn’t be important if we weren’t humans haha

>>14774842
(You)

>>14774888
Any recommendations, anon? I'm not familiar with him

>>14773685
this looks like a porno

>>14776834
It is.

>>14774842
>Cornelius Agrippa himself said most of what he wrote was false.
Source?

>>14775904
Obviously. Current AI research demands the multiple realizability of the mind to be acknowledged, so classical science is diminishing

>>14777830
Agrippa, De incertitudine et vanitate omnium scientiarum, chap. 48

How do you not know this though? He spent most of his life as a skeptic refuting what he wrote when he was young.

>>14769408
Evola isn't really a figure in the occult community

Not because muh nazi, just because his books don't really stand out

Really for the Occult Philosophy section you just need Levi and Agrippa, the rest are literallywhos

>angel magic
>dee

Probably more widely-applicable choices than that, Dee's system is its own thing

>grimoires

Where is Joseph Peterson in this list? That's a large omission

>Thelema

Book 4 is more general magic, probably better to put Liber Al in there

Anything about Scandinavian esotericism?

I really like Waite's writing style, which book of his should I read next?

>>14779468

>>14765128
What are the ingredients he used?

>>14779907
Heat up oil and vinegar, then add a cup of 80% water 20% gasoline.

Aleister Crowley is pure larp

>>14779429
Have you read Introduction To Magic? I haven't got any particular interest in getting more people to read Evola, but I thought it was a good introduction to various kind of traditions and practices.

>>14779429
>dissing evola
>bruno called a literal who
>promoting joseph peterson -- literally who?
>book 4 includes liber al
Thanks for the suggestions but no thanks.

Why should one take Crowley seriously? Why is he recommended so often in occultism? To me he appears as a drug addict that fooled everyone into buying his books. But I'm here to have my mind changed.

>>14780787
You shouldn't.

he is frequently babby's first occultist, simply because he is shilled by normies and brainlets. he was mentally ill and his entire life and work was a reaction against the Church. he was a fool.

>>14779907
If you don't know and don't have the brain cells to figure it out why should I tell you? You can't be trusted not to gas yourself or someone else.

>>14779429
>Agrippa
Wrote his "occult" books during his teenage years and then spent the remaining of his life as a skeptic criticizing both his books and the rest of the occultists of his time as con men.

>Crowley
Mentally ill con artist

>Dee
Literally got tricked for years by a con artist into thinking he could interact with angels. Realized it was all bullshit only when his "friend" told him angels said Dee's had to let him cuck him.

Most of these guys are either gullible retards or con artists, and this is why modern "occultists" love them so much, because they're just the same.

>>14781119
How about Jung?

>>14781395
>Jung
Based. Simple as that.

>>14781119
Spirits are tricky. Jesus was a mentally ill con artist anti-church rebel but the spirit of his words is still powerful today

>>14781395
Haven't read his esoteric writings yet so can't comment. I can say that his psychological writings lack rigor though. Not as bad as Freud but unimpressive nonetheless.

>>14781589
Who are some rigorous psychologists?

>>14781601
Sun Tzu

bump

>>14781119
You have to be considered mentally ill to stand out as a person anyway

Fucking gay ass bullshit I hope you fuckers burn in hell like the degenerate you are.

>>14783554
Doesn't mean you should give credit to their writings. Sometimes you can, in his case definitely not.

>>14783559

what did the pot call the kettle again?
... oh yeah. Nigger.

Occult Literature Discord: https://discord.gg/FFwRXKq

>>14780959
Because although I already looked it up, I wanted to know the ones in the image dumbo. Also, your
>heh kid you not ready for my arcane knowledge
>adjusts glasses
just confirms you are a retard autist. Moralniggers go away

>>14765190
All satantic pseudo spiritual rats. Read Guenon.

>>14770885
But anon, don't you know a FEW cults were actually led by women? Don't you think that means we need to ignore all the historical cultures built by men?

Redpill me on bhoota damar tantra

Anyone here really modified some aspect of his reallity through studying and practicing the esoteric?

>>14786117
Yes. Believe it or not the esoteric is more about self improvement than you think. The most valuable pieces on my house are my home gym and my library. However to reach full enlightenment one needs a master that has already reach it, for it is almost impossible to reach it yourself. I’m still on my journey, probably wouldn’t be on this website if I wasn’t; but esotericism and occult knowledge will certainly open your mind if you read it the right way and hold the right mindset.

>>14786117
yes

what is the goal of this whole occultism thing? I'm slowly trying to get into philosophy and wanted to read some of Evola's works but I found out he wrote many books about occult stuff. What's so interesting about it and is it actually believable coz I only believe in aliens, no spirits or souls
do you guys do magic or something?

>>14780787
>To me he appears as a drug addict that fooled everyone into buying his books
mostly correct except no one bought his books and he died penniless

>>14787192
The thing about "occultism" is man trying to explain the source of consciousness and the hidden forces affecting and influencing it.

>>14765017
Remember anons. All "Jewish" mysticism is taken from Druids and Egyptians which were a remnant of the great Atlantean and Lemurian civilisations. Even the name Ashkenaz was appropriated from early Germanics.

>>14765017