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>>14760087
>Is analytical philosophy really the end game?

I at least hope not

>>14760087
Because mathematics is the closest thing we have to pure objectivity in the universe and everything else is semantic delusions

>>14760087
>Is analytical philosophy really the end game?
It is for reddit

>>14760233
Too bad our friendly neighborhood Dane proved that "subjectivity is truth."

>>14760087
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>>14760248
>>>/his/

>>14760254
My book is Concluding Unscientific Postscripts to Philosophical Fragments :^)

>>14760254
>you can discuss Kant, but not Russell Not my poor Kant!!

>>14760328
stop screaming, faggot

>>14760087
based ESL retard baiting angloids

>>14760087
bertrand russell is among the most poisoned minds ever to wield the written word

Godel
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Analytic philosophers are worthless. They are failed philosophers. They are failed mathematicians. Nobody wants them, so they overcompensate by pretending they're relevant to AI research or some shit.

>>14760439
they're CUTE
>[O]ur common stock of words embodies all the distinctions men have found worth drawing, and the connexions they have found marking, in the lifetimes of many generations: these surely are likely to be more numerous, more sound, since they have stood up to the long test of the survival of the fittest, and more subtle, at least in ordinary and reasonably practical matters, than any that you or I are likely to think up in our arm-chairs of an afternoon — the most favoured alternative method.
>Certainly ordinary language has no claim to be the last word, if there is such a thing. It embodies, indeed, something better than the metaphysics of the Stone Age, namely, as was said, the inherited experience and acumen of many generations of men. But then, that acumen has been concentrated primarily upon the practical business of life [and so] this is likely enough not to be the best way of arranging things if our interests are more extensive or intellectual than the ordinary. … And it must be added too, that superstition and error and fantasy of all kinds do become incorporated in ordinary language and even sometimes stand up to the survival test (only, when they do, why should we not detect it?). Certainly, then, ordinary language is not the last word: in principle it can everywhere be supplemented and improved upon and superseded. Only remember, it is the first word.

>[T]he principal example that we chose was the hero of Kafka’s story Metamorphosis, a commercial traveller called Gregor Samsa, who wakes one morning to find that he has been transformed into a monstrous cockroach, although he retains clear memories of his life as an ordinary human being. Are we to speak of him as a man with the body of a cockroach, or a cockroach with the memories and consciousness of a man? "Neither," Austin declared. "In such cases, we should not know what to say. This is when we say ‘words fail us’ and mean this literally. We should need new words. The old ones just would not fit. They aren’t meant to cover this kind of case.

>>14760087
philosophy is a mistake imo, one should be either a logician or a theologian, or I guess an anthropologist or sociologist.

>>14760353
Based. Can you elaborate?

>>14760353
>poisoned
the literal reason analytic philosophy is superior

>>14760248
nah.

>>14760610
But that's just your subjectivity talking.

>>14760452
Didn’t pretty much all those things spring out of philosophy though?

1. Get a PhD in physics or mathematics with a masters in linguistics
2. Become analytical philsopher
nobody will question your credentials

>>14760448
I fucking love mid century analytic energy.

Austin and Urmson here.

They don't treat everything as mathematics. They noticed that mathematics had the same qualities as logic.

Things which are arithmetically or geometrically true are necessarily so. If 1+1 stops being equal to 2, then the rest of arithmetic explodes (everything else we know stops being true and necessarily so); if the theory that the sum of angles of a polygon is 180(S-2) becomes false the rest of geometry explodes; etc.

There is an overwhelming beauty in these logical truths and the height of the structures that have been built with them. The dreams of analytic philosophers are obviously motivated by this, if mathematical logic is the internal machinery of the universe then its truths - however deflationary they are in themselves - are assuredly the only bridge to the end of subjective reasoning and cyclical history.

You can imagine at this point that the incompleteness theorem was a huge pothole.

>>14761318
good pic

>>14760439
>Nobody wants them, so they overcompensate by pretending they're relevant to AI research or some shit.
That's an interesting way to say that they are the only philosophers who are taken seriously be scientists and actually contribute to discussions about the possibility of creating AI. What's the influence of continentals outside of their field, gender studies?

>>14760975
ur mum sprung out of philosophy

>>14761874
You are obviously a retard who doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about, don't talk about analytic philosophy if you don't actually read it.