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Why come no significant religious works in 21st century?
Proof that god is indeed of fact dead?

>> No.14750325

>>14750306
Jung answered this.

>> No.14750331

>>14750325
What was the answer?

>> No.14750346

>>14750306
>he doesn’t know about dianetics, urantia, or sean goonan

>> No.14750349

>>14750306
>Why come no significant religious works in 21st century?

The Unbearable Wholeness of Being: God, Evolution, and the Power of Love by Ilia Delio

>> No.14750372

>>14750306
Does Laurus count as Christian? Probably not. Anyways, it's too early to decide which chiefly theological works are "significant" yet, but they are certainly being written.

>> No.14750440
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Pope Francis' encyclicals and exhortations are pretty good, but I wouldn't expect a dumb Neetch poster on 4chan to have read any of them.

>> No.14750454

>>14750306
Man has replaced the extasy of faith with soulless materialism.

>> No.14750469

>>14750331
The Collective Unconscious. If you are familiar with Carlyle's view of great men you should get the picture.

>> No.14750496

>>14750349
>Ilia Delio
>boomer nun who doesn't wear a habit
>doesn't think the bible is inerrant
>thinks the church is a patriarchy for sociological reasons rather than because God made it so, as the Bible says
>follower of teilhard's pantheistic heresy
>Until we can let go of the Adam myth and take hold of evolution as the way God is creating unto the fullness of life, we will continue to have a church losing members to the lures of technology and social media.
>How can the church hope to instill a consciousness of integral ecology when it cannot own up to modern biology? Instead of trying to defend the elite fallen male, the church might face up to the reality that Adam and Eve never existed as a single couple responsible for a defect in the species. If the church cannot accept modern biology and a deeply enmeshed biological God, then how in the world will we ever be set free?

that is gonna be a yikes from me

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>>14750349
>cyborg christian

holy WHAT HTE FUCK

>> No.14750504

>>14750496
I'm so fucking glad all the new younger nuns are going back to wearing habits. The day the last boomer nun dies off will be a great day for the Church.

>> No.14750510

>>14750454
>christ cuck
>tripfag
>extasy
The cringe combo

>> No.14750539

>>14750346
>dianetics
1950
>urantia
1924-1955
>sean goonan
Not significant

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>>14750306
We have won.

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Plantinga is great and pope Benedict was considered a genius by his peers

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It is not that 'God is dead'. It is that our capacity to know Him has been obliterated by the secularising forces of modernity. It is not that we have forgotten God because we have come to greater knowledge. Rather, we have forgotten him precisely because we have regressed in understanding. Sure, we have advanced in technical knowledge. But our capacity for 'wisdom', for a coherent and comprehensive sense of the Whole, is lost. Formerly our epistemologies were grounded in place which served as a filter, retaining only what was pertinent to life and which cohered and could therefore serve as the basis of a functioning society. Now there is no basis. Now we are bombarded with all too much points and counterpoints for the human mind to handle. We have been made dumb by the abundance of knowledge. The scale of the task of 'thinking for oneself' is too large. We can't think. We can't know anything. God disappears from view, and we fall on our knees before the managerial class, because only numbers know, not people. God is alive, we've only made ourselves blind.

>> No.14750680

God isn't dead. We're just playing a game of hide and seek gone wrong

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>>14750680
Yhwh is hiding behind that image of Zeus in your head.
Very much not-alive.

>> No.14750793

>>14750586
Butterfly, I don't mean to be rude in asking, but it would be interesting for me to hear your answer. If you are an egoist and none aside from the self matter, why bother caring about others religion, as it is unlikely you will actually change society/religion in such a way that it makes an impact upon your self for the better. If you critque it merely out of the enjoyment of the critique, isnt this problematic, as you are staking your satisfaction upon the presence of opposing others. I'm not informed in egoism, so I'm unsure if I'm going about this from a correct angle. Cheers

>> No.14750830

>>14750510
Give in to the True Gnostic Faith.

>> No.14750861

>>14750830
Gnostics are theological illiterates. Literally the midwits of religion.

>> No.14750864

>>14750830
yikes

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>>14750793
I care about humanity, as I see it, and want them to continue to thrive and advance. I see nothing wrong in entertaining the kids with fantasies, but to indoctrinate them into out and out lies so that a clerical class might control them more easily is quite evil in my book.
Helping my people grow up paste this very dangerous phase brings me pleasure. Love. I only want what’s best for you all.
Cheers

>> No.14750874

>>14750861
Religion isn't about literacy, it's about direct experience, which is why Catholics and others who spend all their time studying ancient dried up texts to argue some irrelevant and incorrect theological points about the nature of the One and his son Jesus Christ will always in fact be the midwits of the religious world.

>> No.14750875

>>14750861
Gnostics are the originators of the church. Without their tinkering your religion is a nonsensical mess. And so it is.

>> No.14750907

tripfag opinions literally do not matter

>> No.14750912

>>14750907
If they didn't matter you'd ignore them and not respond to them by making posts

>> No.14750943

>>14750874
Gnostics confirmed as Protestants.

>> No.14750950

>>14750943
Protestants are just as deluded as Catholics, lmao.

Remember narrow is the gate, do you think Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or Protestantism are the gate? Heh.

>> No.14750953

>>14750469
could you be any less useful jesus christ

>> No.14750958

>>14750943
No. They’re Christianity as mysteries cult. Would have been interesting to see that play out, but no, the dumb dumbs excommunicated the church fathers and burned their works

>> No.14750962

>>14750950
>that lack of self-awareness
Suddenly, the trip makes a lot more sense.

>> No.14751420

Dead. He was never alive to begin with.

Christianity and Fred btfo

>> No.14751723

>>14750346
>>14750539
Goonan is legit.

>> No.14751739

>>14750306
I'm currently working on a great work of Catholic art. I hope it will glorify God, and also be the most significant written work of the 21st Century

>> No.14751875

>>14750306
>retarded edgy Nietzsche posters: God is dead! Fuck yeah! I fucking love science. Now reason can prevail over superstition and ignorance
>Nietzsche: God is dead oh shit oh fuck what are we going to do fuggg our culture is on borrowed time

>> No.14751944

>>14750870
Your argument would have been correct if departure from religion and spirituality had actually improved from it. However, that is not the case, so...

>> No.14751946

>>14751944
*improved society

>> No.14751948

>>14750306
I'm pretty sure the Abrahamic God alone has more believers then there are people who even know Nietzsche exists.

>> No.14751965

>>14751875
You fool! You're parroting what you were taught in school, it's the teens who haven't read Nietzsche who are right about him!

>> No.14751967

>>14751944
Huge assumptions, anon. 1. They're still deluded with spooks. 2. Those not deluded have "improved"

>>14751875
Schizo posting

>> No.14752165

>>14750306
No need to further ponder on Christianity, it has been solved. Any opposing view is either coping or ignorance.

>> No.14752274

>>14750874
I love how midwits are trying to appropriate the word. Popsci pseud shit is for midwits, some redditor would never touch theology

>> No.14752298

>>14750861
Nah, the Gnostics were right about everything. Without Gnostic thought Christianity is just Judaism + Christ.

>> No.14752299

>>14750958
Well, at least the Nag Hammadi library exists.

>> No.14752387

Has anyone seen this yet lol

https://www.amazon.com/Omnidoxy-Cometan-ebook/dp/B07NL8D5NZ

>> No.14752532

>>14751967
>1. They're still deluded with spooks
Stirner was just an edgy pseud with a fundamentally broken philosophy. Labeling everything that sustains the mind and soul as a spook without offering an actual solution other than mindless, self defeating rebellion.

>2. Those not deluded have "improved"
How so?

>> No.14752674

submit to the dao
you dont need to struggle anymore, shhhh its all over now, you dont need to prove anything we are all in this together hush now

>> No.14752732

>>14751967
>shitposting narcisisstic skinnyfat 4chan lesbob is one of the "improved"

Idk about that one chief

>> No.14752912

>>14752532
>How
How does the elder brother grow when he finds out there’s no such thing as Santa? He becomes more mature than his younger sibling
>mindless, self defeating
Self fulfilling mindfulness, anon. “Tyranny is freedom, war is peace...” are you trying to fool yourself?

>>14752732
I’m not suicidal, I don’t hate myself, I’m planing my retirement as rebelliously as I think I can manage. I no longer have youth on my side. Still, much reading to do.

>>14752299
As a historical relic, sure. Wish the heretics were as forgotten

>> No.14753782

>>14750496

Have you read some of her works, or did you just Google summaries?

>> No.14753785

>>14750306

Unapologetic: Why Despite Everything Christianity Can Still Make Surprising Emotional Sense by Francis Spufford

>> No.14753987

>>14752912
You talk of maturity when there are a great number people who use the absence of the divine as an excuse for immature behavior. Stirner included.

>> No.14754087

No works have been published on me. Guess I'm dead.

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>>14750306
>no significant religious works in 21st century?
It's only 20 years in.
The leader of a century has have grown up in that century.
I'm only 24 give me a few more years, a decade perhaps.

>> No.14754882

Kinda difficult to top Dosto.

>> No.14755134

>>14750454
its going to backfire soon

>> No.14755960

>>14753987
Not to mention his (Butterfly's) behavior. I'd like to hear more about the Gnostic roots of Christianity, this is one I haven't yet heard. Perhaps he fell into some schizo rabbit hole, which are legion and often contradictory

>> No.14755995

>>14750454
this