/lit/ - Literature

his wife getting cancer i guess

becoming a public figure

THAT debate.

>>14732085
Not reading Hegel

>>14732094
every time he talks to someone smarter than himself he just looks like a stupid child

>>14732093
spbp

>>14732085
he fell for the self improvement meme

The interdeterminacy of being and also the mistake of forming a pseud-loop of dangerous overconfidence with your weirdo munchausen-by-proxy beef daughter

His illness and addiction.

>>14732085
He realised he's a forced meme.

>>14732106
He reminds me of my dad
Extremely smart, has been the smartest and most learned person in the room for pretty much the entirety of his life, but as a result is conditioned to be extremely self-assured and often faces catastrophic, graceless meltdown when it's eventually his turn to be wrong

>mid-tier academic with a book or two published
>suddenly finds himself an academic pariah for criticizing a speech code pushed by the "transgender movement" that even many actual transsexuals were against
>took advantage of notoriety from the media-generated outrage to make money and keep paying the bills
>ended up in the position of a public intellectual writing crap on subjects outside of what he was familiar with and obviously knew he was a bit of a fraud in some respects
>felt strong pressure to live up to his fans' idealized image of him, as well as to save face by proving his critics wrong
>goes on meds for anxiety problems
>beloved wife gets terminal cancer
>made to look foolish and out of his depth by a Slovenian socialist most famous for his greasy hair and involuntary noisemaking
I wonder why he had a breakdown?

nobody will probably believe me
but there was a group fags and queers into wiccan shit who swore they put a curse on him

>>14732151
retards do that shit all the time, nothing new

>bring me my pills bucko

>>14732151
Source? I'd like to read something about that. I don't know why somebody would want to hex Peterson, though. It's like trying to hex your uncle who keeps up with the news through what televangelists say and wears his cell phone on his belt, or the lady at the end of the street who thinks she knows something about something because she read "The Secret." A bit pathetic for a target when there are bigger, more influential fish like John Bolton or Kellyanne Conway they could have cast their voodoo spells on.

>>14732085
He developed a psychological addiction to benzos, couldn't man up and taper off, so he tried to sleep through the withdrawal in an induced coma, and ended up with irreversible brain damage.

Unironically the internet.
Imagine Socrates in this age. He would get shat on, simply because the internet allows you to debate every willing person at once while simultaneously giving everyone access to everything you said. You simply can't win against those odds.

>>14732195
>tfw meletus

Hoping and praying that we get to hear audio of benz'd-out peterson at some point
If there aren't clear indicators of brain damage in his speech I'll eat my hat

>>14732085
The dialectic.

>>14732085
people realized he's only liked/read by/considered smart by people who don't read, like ayn rand or the GoT guy

checked and Zizek'd

>>14732085
hubris

Clonazepam

I don’t think he’s fallen, I believe his story of prescription addiction. He’s obviously got poor health and if anyone could have a bad reaction it would be the guy who gets inflammation from anything but meat.

I don’t think this ruins his credibility and will buy his new book when it comes out. Like anyone, I weigh the good (personal responsibility) with the bad ( ignorance of “cultural Marxism” and deconstructionism) and I think he comes out positive.

>>14732185
Except that literally didn't happen

He got extremely physically addicted, and had an inverse reaction, that almost killed him when they tried taking him off

His daughter came out like two weeks ago, to explain what happened

.>Slavoj Zizek, distinguished direct profressor of philosophy at the University of and author of seventy six books
>Jordan Peterson, professor of psychology at University of Toronto, author of two books

>>14732912
He went to Russia and was put in an 8 day induced coma to get off the drugs and according to his daughter there was "physiological damage" the extent of which no one knows at this point.

>>14732912
>He got extremely physically addicted
Why do you think it got to that point?

>>14732094
>>14732106
Which debate is this?

>>14732985
with Zizek

his wife left him because he had an affair with an Ukrainian maid and with two students

>>14732185
>>14732912
Benzos are the most physically addictive drugs in the world, and sudden withdrawal can be fatal.
Sudden withdrawal also always causes permanent brain damage.
Serves the kike worshiper right

>>14732961
I thought it was obvious that was from the benzo addiction/widthdrawal
Most people are not the same after that

>>14732085
the drugs

>>14732195
"All fools agree as soon as a man of superior intelligence appears."

>>14732956
Seventy six books rehashing the same 20 jokes and Hollywood movie analysis.

I'm beginning to suspect 4chan is the worst addititive, even as bad as benzos. It's physically and mentally impossible to leave this godforsaken place.

You guys are disgusting desu.

>>14733145
Why desu?

>>14733130
Just seventy-four do that.

>>14732956
wittgenstein only published one book in his lifetime and he's the greatest thinker of the last century

>>14732195
This is why the mere advent of the 2010s usage and concept of "cringe" necessarily implies that personality is inextricably linked with philosophy from this point forward. Unless you're really the kind of person with the stamina and capability to continuously defend your positions in effectively real-time as you communicate them (not to mention only developing ironclad concepts and/or arguments in the first place..), you're going to have to be the kind of person with the personality and wit to flip the collective cringe onto your attackers and remain to the crowd, in a word, based
Peterson tried to go for the rigorous option, only for his wings to soften in the limelight and finally melt in Zizek's musky heat. And also the heat of wife cancer. And of brain damage

>>14732085
Led to his downfall? He's just getting started. You're a fucking idiot.

>>14733207
What does he have left to do? Everyone knows all of his talking points by now. He has nothing fresh to offer.

>>14732106
>>14732142
Even if he were among the smartest people in his subfield of psychology, that's like being the tallest midget.

>>14733108
And yet, "when a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

>>14732961
>He went to Russia and was put in an 8 day induced coma to get off the drugs
Holy fucking shit what a stupid thing to do

>>14733239
Why does this happen?

>>14733247
talk about being a pussy, rather than bear his cross up the hill he decided to knock himself out of the withdrawals.

>>14733249
I guess that's because they usually appear in times of cultural crisis, and they are too alien to fit in the current state of their society.

>>14733239
That quip is not literally true, though. Whether or not such a condition is necessary, it is certainly not sufficient.

You guys are faggots. His biblical lectures are so good.

>>14732085
sex with Zizek

>>14732146

>>14733464
They're horrible, both from a theological and historical-critical perspective.

>>14733164
I never read Wittgenstein's book, but I read his deconstruction of Frazer and it was weak.

>>14733211
>He has nothing fresh to offer.
And the chickens are coming home to roost.

Too much toast and not enough butter. Pick your metaphorical butter; there wasn't enough of it.

>>14732085
His success.
He sold his soul to the devil.

*sniff* *sniff*

Dawkins > Peterson

https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1228943686953664512

The true answer is that he waded into the culture wars defending the position that is not in vogue. He briefly became public enemy among the fishmouthed gender studies professors and all the while attracted the gleeful undiscriminating animosity of the angry internet boys he sought to help. The childish bully tactics of the new left would harry and harass his every reasoned assertion as if it were venomous hate speech.
Zizek then appeared on the horizon, like an avenging samurai master trained in the deadly art of Iaido, ready to dispatch Peterson at a critical moment in his career with a swift flick of the wrist, exposing that Peterson has a paltry understanding of political theory and a sparknotes tier understanding of the communist manifesto (which is not even the definitive intellectual statement of the communist position but a pamphlet meant to appeal to semi-literate factory workers.)

>>14732085
being intellectually honest until he gained fame outside his wheelhouse. the contrast between his field of expertise and what he was famous for ground him down because he knew the difference in his heart.

same reason you dismiss the poor bastards posting quotes of physicists musing about religion.

Cuck Philosophy

>>14734420
This is true for Mendelian genetic diseases with high penetrance (like Huntington's) but definitely not true for polygenic traits like intelligence, height, attractiveness, etc. That's biology 101.

>>14734469
I don't feel I quite summed up my point. All of this pressure channeled and funneled through the digital media can be of harrowing psychological torment. Constantly being viewed as if you are a nazi, getting banned from events, the vituperative fishmouthed outrage of columnists and editorialists collectively aghast that someone is making a reasonable point that goes against their values, eventually got to Peterson. (Aside from the personal troubles with his spouse etc.)
This shit adds up: and in a manner he fell for Nietzche's dictum about he who stares into the abyss and he who fights monsters.

>>14734497
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/down-syndrome-iceland/

blunt utility will work its way into polygenic traits with better tools.

>>14734497
And yet, punching above their weight is something to take note of, no?

>>14734501
He probably would've come out of it fine if he hadn't such an aversion to empathy and compassion like >>14732185 pointed out. But instead of talking it over with someone or admitting that it was tough on him (toxic masculinity) he decided for the easy way of benzos and let it destroy him. It's mostly the result of his own personal choices and by extension his fault.

>gained fame solely for being le redpill man about some tranny law
>decided to fashion himself a 'philosopher' despite having a boomer understanding of political philosophy, religion, and 20th century philosophy
>his opnions are basically 'uh but what if maintaining the status quo is actual the MOST revolutionary?? :)', makes absolutely no waves as to keep the largest audience he can
>sold out to write a self help book where he brags about his quora account
>got endlessly btfo by anti-natalists, sam fucking harris of all people, and zizek
>sold out to the meat jew

>>14733228

>The people who literally study what intelligence is, among other things, aren't smart

What makes a person smart in your book? Are mycologists smart because they can remember the details of countless mushrooms? Or are only the people who study the most abstract incomprehensible subjects (mathematics, physics etc.) smart?

Question: when did he first become addicted to drugs? Why didn't he get proper treatment, and why did he choose to take drugs again?

>>14732956
76 books?

I'm not familiar with his work, but there is no way anyone can stay relevant and consistent for as long. Is he publishing his diaries?

>>14732085
Being a repressed homosexual

>>14734574

>consistent

The guy can't even fit two sentences together. I don't think consistency is really what he's going for.

>>14732085
He's a phony. When he first popped up, the dude looked like a conman. He was a fat weaselly looking man, 2015 JP is not a man I would look at and go "I want to model my life after this guy". Between 2015 and 2019, he got lucky. His virtue was fortune, that's all there is to it. Fortune can raise you up, but it will just as easily drag you through the mud.

>>14733228
kek, based reply anon. Psychology is at best just statistical inference and remembering esoteric theories put forth by crazies that came before you.

>>14734556
Psychology is a meme science. It's basically just
>have stupid idea for why people do X
>test it out
>STAT101.exe
>my hypothesis has been [supported/insufficient evidence]
>repeat
It's not like Chemistry, or Biology, or Physics, since it has no fundamentals, it has no universals. Any man's idea is as good as another's, so long as he can gather experimental evidence to support his hypothesis. There is no physical system being observed in psychology, you could say. If you say "the brain", you're wrong because that's neuroscience.

>>14734597

You question the scientific integrity psychological research, and so do many (dare I say, all) psychologists.
This says something about the intelligence of the people who practice it, how exactly?

>>14732085
Drug-induced overconfidence in his abilities, all of that dangerously validated by a post-truth society that values style over substance. He's mostly a victim of his own hell.

>>14734605

Ah yes, the good o'l self-inflicted auto-immune diseases, cancer stricken wife and medication side-effects.

>>14734601
Maybe it says very little. At the very least, it says that it probably appeals to the most indolent of the scientific caste. I would conjecture that it more likely than not says that it appeals to those whose abilities of deduction are no match for the complex intricacies of mother nature, and so they decide to sit about on their ass all day and conjecture why some humans prefer crunchy peanut butter over smooth (hint: it probably has to do with childhood trauma!!)

>>14734638

So you're implying that the study of human behavior is less complex than the study of, say, sediment?
How about the branch of biology in which the behavior of animals is studied? Is that a legitimate form of research?

Interesting that you'd mention childhood trauma. Tell me about your mother.

I'm trying to feel compassion for this man but he is doubling down on the narcissism

What is his problem

>>14734638

Psychological research is mostly shit but you cannot deny that CBT/DBT, and other types of therapy are effective for many people. They have helped better many people suffering from disorders like mdd, bpd, etc. In order to be a clinical psychologist you can't be an autist. You have to be able to connect with other people. It's a humanistic profession that often exposes you to the traumas of others and the limits of the human psyche.

>>14734666

B-b-but muh peer reviews! M-m-muh data columns! I need to distill everything down into a list or it doesn't make sense to me! How dare you actually help people with abstract concepts reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

>>14732179
There was at least one thread on /x/ regarding this "curse."

>>14734630
>Ah yes, the good o'l self-inflicted auto-immune diseases
Judging by his...unorthodox choice of diet, I wouldn't be surprised.

>medication side-effects
*psycho-drug addiction

>>14734692

His condition far predates his diet. Though yes, I don't even want to imagine what the man's turds must look like.

Do you have a um, source? Or do we just accuse people of things with no evidence here on /lit/?

like all ego-ridden normalfags, he thinks he's a protagonist in a story when he's actually a casting director.

>>14734515
>toxic masculinity
The guy has been advocating SSRI to a herd of "depression does not exist" tier cavemen for years

>>14734656
No. Human behaviour is a vastly complex mechanism, it is TOO complex for man to fathom and explain, there are too many variables and too many outcomes that there is no way we could ever have a valid understanding of what's going on. It will always be one conjecture after another, with no proof in between. Basically it's for people who are shooting so ridiculously high that they are intending to miss.

Anyhow, I'm more of a physics/mathematics guy myself, biology I disliked for similar reasons, there are not that many universals, but there are some universals.

>>14734666
I don't see what cock/dick and ball torture has to do with it, but sure, if it helps "many" people then it helps them. Do I think there's really any science or research behind it? Not really, it's just kind of prodding around and getting people to acknowledge their own thought patterns and improve their mental stability by doing what you should do anyway. Attending therapy is no better for the brain than going to the gym is for the body. What I mean is that therapy, like the gym, has materials you may not have otherwise had access to, but unless you're going to really push yourself, you're not getting better. Similarly, you don't need to go to the gym to be relatively healthy. If you wish to obsess over your body and excessively work your body, then be my guest, but after you take into account signup fees and weekly/monthly rates, you're better off just getting a barbell/dumbell set and going for runs.

>>14734744

>dick and ball torture

I believe you were going to tell us about your relationship with your parents no?

>>14734744

I get what you're saying but I still disagree. CBT/DBT for instance is empirically tested. There is most definitely research behind it. No question about it. There are a lot of statistically weak theories and shit in psychology but CBT isn't one of them. It's particularly effective for depression, addictions, and so much more. The general consensus is that for treating multiple disorders something like CBT in conjunction with medication is more effective than either or alone.

>>14734744

>I'm more of a physics/mathematics guy myself

Genuine question. Are you autistic or do you feel a lack of empathy for others? I often find that it's mathematical or engineering types are who just like drones. Not saying you are or anything but if you're discounting an entire field because of some petty feelings you have, then that's a little worrisome.

jp is smart but his “self-help” is peak neo-liberal wankery
>just pull yourself up by your bootstraps bro
>if your in a toxic relationship just leave bro
>don’t focus on societal and world issues that threaten the fate of humanity just focus on yourself bro! let the rich people handle it

>>14734844

>do you feel a lack of empathy for others

How do you expect him to answer this question truthfully if he lacks it? He wouldn't know.

Also yes poster seems peak bugman, sad.

>>14734883

Maybe his mom sent him to a psychologist at the end of 9th grade or something

>>14734896

Maybe, or maybe she ought to have

>>14732106
Care to give an example? I've never heard Peterson engage with anyone but other pop retards, be it Harris or Zizek or whoever.

he cries over the holocaust
he's a weak man and it was never meant to be

He would have probably been better off had he used amphetamines like Paul Erdős did.

>>14734515
>hadn't such an aversion to empathy and compassion
He literally doesn't. You never listened to any of his output and you get all of your opinions for reading youtube titles.

>>14734692
>Judging by his...unorthodox choice of diet, I wouldn't be surprised.
NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST EAT MEAT IT'S IMMORAL WHO CARES IF YOU HAVE AN AUTO IMMUNE DISORDER???? MEAT IS MURDER

That's you.

>>14734870
>>just pull yourself up by your bootstraps bro
Got any better idea, faggot?

>>14735220
earn what you contribute a la 1950's 40 hours a week supporting a mortgage payment, 2 cars, a wife, and 2.5 children while paying into social security what you will take out from it.

>>14732085
benzos unironically. oh and being a retard

>>14732093
this

he was overhyped because people hate media rhetoric so much that they'll suck off anyone that shows even the slightest backbone against it. first time i've heard of him was when he was talking about nuclear peace and the media talkingheads were so dense that it made me frustrated. he's in no way an intellectual, he's just popular because he got to be on tv and dared to go against supposedly "status quo" that anyone not completely out of touch actually hates

>>14732146
This except Zizek is based.
Imagine making a whole career out of Marxist critique and not knowing anything about it. Or post modernism for that matter.

>>14735303
same thing happening to trump?

>>14733239
Peterson talks shop about banal things, making them sound like extraordinary discoveries. I watched one video where he attempted to hamfist the Christian perspective of unconditional love into a libertarian take on Euroskepticism. It was one of the most blatant shows of alt right dicksucking I've ever seen, and the comments were filled with people lauding his genius because he used big words. If you think Peterson is a genius you lack fundamental critical thinking skills and you should consider brushing up on them.

>>14735303
>that anyone not completely out of touch
so basically nobody?
>>14734870
>>don’t focus on societal and world issues that threaten the fate of humanity just focus on yourself bro! let the rich people handle it
lmao this. fuck this faggots

>>14735320
>>14735320
>he is only using big words to sound smart
>he is guilty by his association to non-leftist ideas
>learn to think

I can't even tell if this is bait or just pseudism in it's purist form.

>>14735334
He's guilty because he panders to them, not by mere association. He's made no move to dismiss the lunatics who get off on his shitty discourse.

>>14735243
>muh unions
We have strong unions here in yurop and we still have the same problem, senpai. Tbh there is nothing wrong with people being billionaires if you have enough. How about this, if your net worth is below 1M USD you pay zero taxes.

>>14735344
how about earn what you contribute?

>>14734659
It's almost like a cult of personality at this point.
>I am Sisyphus, Jesus and your dad all in one
>By the holy trinity I say upon thee: clean your quarters and don't do drugs, kids

>>14732085
pride

>>14734896
>>14734925
I find Medicine to have an empathy problem though. I talked to a friend of mine who studies medicine, and I think the dehumanisation of people in their profession and the ""facts don't care about your feelings" attitude is causing this. Where I'm from medicine students have a class in empathy or "consulting with patients" because so many doctors have been robots saying "you will die of cancer in 2 weeks, bye" and just not giving a shit.

>>14732085
>lives on nothing but steak
his uncritical devotion to his own
idiosyncratic beliefs. he's lilke
Ben Shapiro who ceased any
intellectual curiosity at age 14
because he found what makes
Daddy happy.

>>14735415

Lmao yes, the people who devote their lives to making others better have an empathy problem. If you tell someone they will die in 2 weeks every other week you get used to it, a person can get used to anything.

>>14735015
Incredulous smug asshole lmao

>>14735419
Leftist moron detected. Seriously, like or hate maps of meaning, you can always tell who the brainlet is if their first objection to Peterson is the fucking meat diet.

>>14734597
>>14734744
>I'm more of a physics/mathematics guy myself

You can always sniff out the armchair dilettantes who want to ride on the coattails of other disciplines by how intentionally vague they are. Even dumbass undergrads are more specific. Tell me, what are the highest math and physics courses you've taken and what grades you got in those classes Mr. "physics forward slash mathematics guy myself" guy

>>14735707
>>14734844
I dont know why you retards are ganging up on me lol. I'll be taking precalc and statistics my senior year which is better than 90% of the guys on these boards.

also nice troll image pseud

>>14735545

>mfw peterson ruined his colon just so we'd have a reliable pseud filter

>>14734597
pfh, petty, narrow minded empiricist. Dont you dare take a leap of faith?

>>14733247
This is the part I don't get. You don't just cold turkey benzo addiction. It's not like anything else. It can literally kill you. This is just another example of a "smart" person doing something ridiculously stupid.

>>14732085

He fulfilled the Retard Archetype.

>"The story of a man trying to recover from addiction is the oldest and most profound monomyths the human psyche can conjure"
>makes some crude gesture with his gnarled fingers
>"We actually see it in nature quite often. Take the orangutan for example. Very noble creatures. They mate for life and once the mate passes, the surviving orangutan will go through a bereavement process of endless masturbation, escaping loss through abusing the brain's pleasure center. And in order to escape from this hell hole it dug itself into, the noble orangutan must go on a spirit quest, usually to Russia, where he will meet and confront his dead spouse in the form of a Tulpa."

>>14732085
>What led to his downfall?
Pills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_4UFMp19tE

this is the fallacy of hypocrisy at work
Just because a man can't live up to his own standards and ideals doesn't mean his standards and ideals are bad.

Marxism claimed yet another victim.

>>14735898
He is an ideologue who enjoyed his fame as father figure for a short time.
His psychology is probably pretty solid, but his pseud philosophy and political involvement is what's ridiclous.

>>14733138
If you get friends, hobbies and money then leaving this place is the easiest thing to do in the world. This place attracts mostly losers who don't improve so they get stuck in this place to cope

>>14735205
>the based itinerant Hungarian unrepentant Meth-ematician
>the Cucknadian brainfried cold turkey benzo Prof

>>14735928
This
Later, virgins

>>14735928
>This place attracts mostly losers who don't improve
Look out, we've got a 24 year old IMPROOVER here. What are you gonna do, join the gym? Learn a new language? improving for the sake of improving is nothing but pure hedonism

>>14735794
psychology as a science is the absolute worst of empiricism.

>>14732106
Can you explain why you think he looks like a stupid child and during which specific talks? I swear all the debates on this board are just people preaching to the choir and never actually substantiating what they're trying to say from a central point of view.

Zizek literally banished him into the shadow realm

damn bros I didn't know about the coma shit. I have heard of of this being performed at some places in the US but mainly for opioid addiction...never for benzos

>>14732085
Being a narcicist that catered to the wrong crowd by going out of his actual area of expertise because he enjoyed fame.

>>14732142
>He reminds me of my dad
>Extremely smart
Kek. Holy shit you're pathetic.

>>14733249
Nobody likes to be told their lifestyle is wrong and they need to change.
Just look at most boards on this website when veganism or animal protection is mentioned

>>14732085

Untidy room

>>14732085
You get the impression after a while that he's learned off about 20 talking points, and once you've heard them all he's incapable of contributing any novelty. At this point you can predict almost exactly how he'll answer a given question, even down to the specific wording.

Also Zizek made a fool of him.

>>14732085
He never bothered to learn his opponents views and why they had such views; this became painfully obvious in front of that old Marxist with the cocaine-sniffles (i.e. Zizek), even though he's also not a brilliant guy either.

>>14732956
>and author of seventy six books

most of them are popculture garbage lmao

>>14732085
He got memed to death.

Why do some people get memed to death and others benefit from being memeified?

Compare him to Zizek. Zizek's memes are about his mannerisms and his style of speaking (accent, dirty jokes, movie comparisons, etc). Whereas Peterson's memes are about his actual talking points and ideas. So JBP's memes make him look stale and make his ideas look silly, whereas Zizek's memes end up adding entertainment value to anything he decides to say.

>>14732085
>What led to his downfall?
He took his pills.

>>14736713
>whereas Zizek's memes end up adding entertainment value to anything he decides to say.

>>14732085
He got memed to death.

Why do some people get memed to death and others benefit from being memed?

Compare him to Zizek. Zizek's memes are about his mannerisms and his style of speaking (accent, dirty jokes, movie comparisons, etc). Whereas Peterson's memes are about his actual talking points and ideas. So JBP's memes make him look stale and make his ideas look silly, whereas Zizek's memes end up adding entertainment value to anything he decides to say.

>>14732085
Can't cope with the wrong answer to JQ, likely because he married a jewess. Then it hits him hard that he loses the jewess.

>>14736726
>whereas Zizek's memes end up adding entertainment value to anything he decides to say.

The university intellectuals also play an important role in carrying out the System's trick. Though they like to fancy themselves independent thinkers, the intellectuals are (allowing for individual exceptions) the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group in America today. As a result, their impulse to rebel is particularly strong. But, because they are incapable of independent thought, real rebellion is impossible for them. Consequently they are suckers for the System's trick, which allows them to irritate people and enjoy the illusion of rebelling without ever having to challenge the System's basic values.

Because they are the teachers of young people, the university intellectuals are in a position to help the System play its trick on the young, which they do by steering young people's rebellious impulses toward the standard, stereotyped targets: racism, colonialism, women's issues, etc. Young people who are not college students learn through the media, or through personal contact, of the "social justice" issues for which students rebel, and they imitate the students. Thus a youth culture develops in which there is a stereotyped mode of rebellion that spreads through imitation of peers—just as hairstyles, clothing styles, and other fads spread through imitation.

>>14734844
Yeah, I find it difficult to empathise with people. It's a problem because it makes it hard to like people. I hold considerable contempt for a lot of human behaviour, and yet at the same time I know that everything we do is out of our control, we do it because we must. I can be sympathetic, but yes, for the most part I can very easily not care for most people. I was pretty drone like until I turned about 20, I've improved since. I mostly like maths because everything is there, there's no uncertainty like there is with physics, you can muck around in an artificial universe and you don't need to worry too much about the applications or implications of your findings.

>>14735707
Dunno why that other anon replied on my behalf. I did a course in QM/linear algebra that was really abstract, it was probably the hardest and most fun class I've ever done. I definitely did more maths based courses in university, but things like PDEs are intertwined with physics closely enough that I could consider it to some degree physics.

>>14736160
Lol
smart =/= right, smart =/= good
You're a pseud if you don't recognize that he's a high IQ individual

>>14735773
It's actually a pretty good elimination diet that tends to fix digestive problems.

Psychiatric pills that he shilled for.

>>14732085
The same thing that leads every non-pessimist, non-antinatalist, self-improved, optimistic person to their downfall.
Believing that you have any kind of control over your quality of life, that willpower can beat anything, and that nature/life/god/whatever you wanna call it/etc can't wipe out everything you have and leave you in complete helpless misery begging to die.

Daddy Jordan over there thought he knew what suffering was, but eventually got punched a couple times I guess. I guess also cleaning your room can't prevent your wife from getting cancer. I guess cleaning your room also doesn't prevent your brain from getting addicted to addictive chemicals. Not even if you only eat meat. I guess the people he looked down on just had a harder life than he thought, and now even doing the responsible thing and going to the doctor is not enough, because medical help in the US doesn't really help that much in some cases.

But anyway, please just go ahead and call me weak and doubt me. Tell me I'm just not stoic enough, not religious enough, not hard working enough. Maybe you're right, or maybe the obvious blaring truth has just not presented itself to you yet.

Humans are quick to put animals out of their misery, like a deer they accidentally hit with a car, or a dog with a terminal disease. But when it comes to other humans they become irrational, delusional, and tell all sorts of nonsense forcing the person to "enjoy" their suffering.

>>14732085
His entire worldview is built on the shifting sands of symbols and bullshit wish fulfillment. No wonder he completely imploded

>>14738053
Incredibly based Schopiebro and kek'd at pic related

>>14732085
His birth.

>>14738053
This
Stoicism was about swallowing the blackpill also though, before it became a meme trend.

>>14734497
This is absolutely false. Please include a creationist or other discredited argument when explaining why evolution doesn't exist

>>14732146
>"transgender movement" that even many actual transsexuals were against
Who fucking cares is some delusional retards are against something. Consensus has nothing to do with truth, absolutely nothing to do with truth at all. Something is right or wrong no matter what anyone thinks about it.

>>14735723
>I'll be taking precalc and statistics my senior year which is better than 90% of the guys on these boards.
if this is true I am never coming back here again
>>14738053
>Believing that you have any kind of control over your quality of life
this level of external locus of control is just sad. You must have had some really fucked up shit happen to you to be this miserable of a fuck. I recommend you Sallust, The Jugurthine War, and the Catiline conspiracy. They ave some uplifting prefaces written by a man who found happiness after a lift of turmoil.

>>14734545
if you think the anti-natalist or harris btfo’d JP, you are clearly just a cuck retard. lol.

>>14732111
this

>>14735723
retards are ganging up on you because you are a retard. tell us your views on philosophy so there can be no question you’re a brainlet

>>14734666
I believe you overestimate the value of CBT. It works for some but not many, I believe the reason for this is it’s very short sighted. It’s shitty buddhism. Telling people to stop thinking bad thoughts isn’t going to work on somebody whose troubles stem from being existentially lost. I am going to assume if you are shilling for CBT so hard it’s because it worked for you and therefore my point will fall deaf on your ears.

>>14735723
>precalc and stats
find something else to brag on, brainlet
for real tho, is your district that fucked?

>>14732195
lol do not compare JBP to Socrates

>>14732142
Are you my long lost son? That description sounds like me

>>14732085
You need a rise to fall. Cultish self help is barely standing on your tippy toes

>>14732085
The meat diet was the start of the downfall if we don't count his religion.

>>14732085
All meat diet and pill popping.

>>14733247
Peterson is not a smart man.

>>14732085
King Zizek turned him out.

>>14735320
>alt right
define this?

>>14734501
you forget one important factor: carnivore diet. Whether he had autoimmune reactions that carnivore helped with or if he was just being hypochondriac, a zero carb diet is KNOWN to be very stress inducing, which is degenerative in the long term. Especially since he's not doing the well thought out carnivore diet that includes organs, varied cuts and maybe fruit, but only consumes steak and salt. If you then pile immense mental stress on top of that, with an already weak and aged physiology, it's just a matter of time until you break. I'm pretty sure this is much more important to his case rather than some sort of philosophical break

>>14732085
the popularity was too much, it's a lot of pressure when everybody is looking at you. then the popularity starts to wane and you feel pressure to do something to become relevant again and it just continues. probably would have fell eventually on his own, but his wife getting cancer just pushed up the time table.

also EAT YOUR FUCKING FRUITS AND VEGGIES

>>14738053
You're not entirely wrong, but you're a bit of a loser for being so absolutely certain of it.

>>14734497
>definitely not true for polygenic traits like intelligence, height, attractiveness, etc.
... all of which developed due to selective pressures. You really, really, REALLY think that if you get tall people to have babies together, their children won't tend to be tall?

>>14732085
Gayness

>>14734497
>but definitely not true for polygenic traits like intelligence, height, attractiveness, etc.

i'm guessing you're some freshman biology major dropping terms you don't understand, but polygenic traits are just as susceptible to selection as monogenic traits, it just might take more crosses to get more extreme results. the real problem is that the genetic vs. environmental component for many of these traits is poorly understood

>>14732085
He slipped on a banana peel and a dildo went up his ass as he fell

>>14732085
Being controlled by jews.

>>14732085
SSRIs literally

>>14735794
My flaw is that psychology has nothing to leap to. There are no fundamentals, just a bunch of wish-washy opinions being flung around like shit in a monkey enclosure. They should call psychology monkey science because it's done by a bunch of monkeys. Wait no they should call it the female science because it's what every basic bitch female wants to do instead of a real science that will discover something bigger than what humanity has to offer.

>>14740638
I should have said *the flaw. I think my last point is good, however. Physics, chemistry, and even parts of biology, seek to answer something beyond humanity. Psychology is anthropocentric and therefore cringe and doused in an air of conceit and self-importance.

Not reading the prescription with understanding.

>>14733164
Pretty sure he has two published works.

>>14732085
He didn't read Marx and Hegel and expected to be taken seriously. In any case, he was useful, because he had a debate with Zizek.

Klonopin, that's fairly clear.

>>14735243
As a reader of Marx, union are shit. Their role is to frame the proletariat. To channel it's anger, to domesticate class struggle.

>>14740897
This.
He only spread Marx, Hegel and Zizek to a bigger mainstream audience and hopefully will get more interested in actual philosophy, not based on retarded "judeo-christian" values.

>>14732085
he fell down?

>>14738337
>something is right or wrong no matter what any what anyone thinks about it.

Unsubstantiated claim, any attempts at proving this result in a self-referential paradox. Plz report to nearest decimation chamber post-haste.

He is a neurotic workaholic, this was inevitable. His wife's cancer and only eating steak and salt didn't help either. He wasn't just only eating meat, he did not eat any offal, only muscle. Taking benzos while malnourished was a horrible idea and whoever prescribed then should lose his license.

>>14732085
sharing in writing that from then on his life long quixotic quest would be to fight "cultural marxism" even if it's not a real thing... stubbornly refusing to answer anyone about it, "opponents" like zizek or well meaning fans who don't want to be embarassed by association.

>>14735404
based

>>14734469
HE defended a stupid position out of his own ignorance and made a clown of himself, that's all you need to lure in the proles

Zizek absolutely DESTROYED him

Never cross Zizek or you'll pay the consequences dearly.

>>14732146
Probably especially his wife getting cancer was what gave him a meltdown.

>>14741927
Alternatively, at least read a book or two on marxism and postmodernism before debating Zizek on the issue.

>>14741823
>neurotic workaholic
is this dangerous? I'm like this aswell. 11 shots espresso per day work for 10h the go lift then come back for some more work. Even my wife resents me for it. Also frugal af

>>14732085
I know it's wrong but I'm glad he's dying. His kind of ideology is the most poisonous. It presents itself as nice and helpful and before you know it you have a whole generation of young white men who feel intelligent and morally superior for being racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, capitalist and white supremasicst.

Anyway everyone knows the alt-right has always celebrated deaths on our side, so fuck them. Let us have this.

>>14741959
>and before you know it you have a whole generation of young white men who feel intelligent and morally superior for being racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, capitalist and white supremasicst.

that was most of human history tho

>>14732085
Is there any credible source that he is actually ina coma right now?

>>14741959
Tbh Peterson wasn't alt-right. Many of his followers were, but he himself was like a standard conservative.

>>14741995
>was like a standard conservative.

a classic liberal

>>14742000
a dark knight

>>14741959
> racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, capitalist and white supremasicst.
How is Memerson any of that except maybe capitalist?

>>14742022
>capitalist?

a keynesian

>>14742022
See, this is why he's so dangerous. The untrained eye can't catch what he's doing, all the sly implications, all the dog whistles. Just focus on the lobsters honey.

>>14742028
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutory_delusion

>>14742028
is this the new gangstalking

>>14742038
>>14742039
Honestly, just watch Contrapoint's video on him. She absolutely BTFO him and debunked every single one of his points.

>>14742054
>Contrapoint

is this tranny the intelectual powerhouse of the left? how pathetic

>>14742054
I mean sure, but she never claims that he's as extreme as the alt right. I think he's wrong, but he's objectively not an extremist.

>>14742060
btfo by a tranny lmao

>>14742071

>>14738053
based

>>14742069
To show leniency for mild enablers of extremists in these dark times is morally irresponsible. Peterson himself may have never outright stated his support for the alt-right, but there is no doubt he is one of its pillars.

>>14742076
>Peterson himself may have never outright stated his support for the alt-right, but there is no doubt he is one of its pillars.

and that is bad thing because.....?

>>14742076
Tbh you sound like more of an extremist than him. What's your ideology? Peterson piggy-backed on extremism for money, but his influence was moderating if anything.

>>14742081
>>14742087
You guys do realize people are actually DYING because of your internet bullshit and supreme irony, right? Millions of refugees and minorities are suffering because of people like Peterson. I hope he's fucking dead.

>>14742074
lol cope

>>14738337
That anon meant that it was ostensibly pushed by the "transgender movement" (in quote marks) but a large amount of transsexuals were against it because it was an infringement on freedom of speech. They were referring to the Canadian law as illegitimate.

>>14742105
Peterson had nothing to do with the Syrian Civil War, which many Leftists and Rightists support unironically. If you want to blame people for the refugee crisis, blame Western governments that destroyed stable regimes in Libya, Syria, and Iraq.

>>14742105
>You guys do realize people are actually DYING because of your internet bullshit and supreme irony, right? Millions of refugees and minorities are suffering because of people like Peterson.

HOLY CRAP LOIS

>>14742117
Why are you pivoting? There are dozens of reasons for refugees. It's because of alt-right shitlords that we feel nothing while putting them in concentration camps like nazi germany instead of giving them REFUGE in a country that has more than enough resources for them.

>>14742109
you don't know what you're talking about, the law largely was about having the government respect people's pronouns

>>14742105
most of the rape refugees are doing pic related

>>14742105
i´m trembling anon, hold my hand

>>14742105

>>14742129
The vast majority of refugees are from Syria and Libya.

Also, it makes more sense to try to provide humanitarian aid in-country than out-of-country in the long run. Population displacement harms the country-of-origin and as a result causes the humanitarian situation in the country to deteriorate further. This is why, for example, East Germany didn't allow many of its citizens to leave the country. For countries with an ongoing civil war, safe zones and allowing in refugees is a good thing, but for situations where imminent violence is not a threat, humanitarian aid in country to build an infrastructure in which the people living there are economically secure is both more practical and more humanitarian than the alternative, because then people do not have to abandon extended or immediate family to undertake the journey, and they don't have to abandon their past life.

>>14737414
I was laughing because of the 'my daddy' comparison, retardo

his redditor fan base not telling him that he is a naked smol dick brainlet

>>14742105
i´m glad they´re dying

>>14742105
Nice bait

>What led to his downfall?

mid-tier academic totally out of his depth.

>>14742105
so what?

>>14742105
You are correct. normalizing the most radical racist shit is making actual psychopaths come out of the woodworks like this fucking retard in Christchurch or that incompetent fucktard in Germany.
Hence and in reply to >>14742087 - no, he was giving radicals a ledge and an academic face to latch on to. He further opened the door for extremists, that were simply using the - ill-informed - statements he felt compelled to make on the left, feminism, and neo marxist-boogie men, simply because he enjoyed the spotlight. He is what is called a useful idiot to the extremists.

>>14742159
>>14742163

This. His transformation into egomaniac GQ cover man was especially lame. His earliest videos showed a clear nerd. Vanity got him bad

>>14742237
all trannies should die

>>14742420
And this has what exactly to do with this thread or what I posted, you retard?

>>14742461
i don´t like trannies discords like you

>>14742105
>Millions of refugees and minorities
If its so bad, fuck off back home then

>>14742420
How obsessed are you?

>>14742466
>trannies discords
I really couldn't give a fuck over what other forums you seemingly frequent, buddy.

>>14742478
>>14742468
i don´t like minorities either, they´re ugly, smell bad and they behave like barbarians

He is in the belly of the beast. He has to come back.

>>14742478
>>14742468
>>14742302
>>14742237
>>14742105
>>14742107

tell me, why do you like minorities? do you think they´re angel that came from heaven so no hard criticism should be put on them? or is it just a parasitic fetish that you have? please enlighten me with your liberal ideology

>>14742107
no u

>>14735707
the reason physics and mathematics are more rigorous is because they often utilize much more abstract concepts and even if the toolset WAS smaller as you are implying, you have to use those tools in much more complicated ways. The image you posted is actually super indicative of why biology is easier. A process having an inordinate number of steps doesn't make it complicated, it just makes it long. Biology utilizes much more memorization and study of understood systems than math or physics ever do.

>>14742237
Disagree, I think it would have happened without him. Peterson's ideology is explicitly anti-racism.

He should've read more Guenon (pbuh)

>>14742105
>You guys do realize people are actually DYING because of your internet bullshit and supreme irony, right? Millions of refugees and minorities are suffering because of people like Peterson. I hope he's fucking dead.

>>14741951
Yes, but I have no idea how to solve it because I am the opposite. There are many workaholics in my family and my field of work and they are miserable and end up snapping either against themselves or those around them. There are people that can work a lot and handle it well, but if you have to rely on that much caffeine, there are some underlying issues you need to explore. Good luck anon, don't run yourself into the ground.

>>14735840
Kek

>>14734883
What's a bugman?

>>14735898
Rule #6: Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world.

The demons had no more use for him.

>>14732085
Life.

>>14732085
He's a boomer

>>14742137
They're fucking Helen?

>>14732085
Probably the drugs.

>>14735986
Zizek exposed him, and did so brutally, and that's evidence enough.

>>14743275
>Zizek exposed him, and did so brutally, and that's evidence enough.

>>14735986
In the Zizek debate he seemed to honestly think reading the Communist Manifesto was enough to debate about Marx, and he tried to play it up as "really" reading it. When he spoke with Camille Paglia, who was friendly to him, he made it clear he hadn't even read the 'post-modern neo marxists' he criticizes, calling one of them 'unreadable'. Not to mention the fact that she talked circles around him, while he sat their looking like he barely understood half of it.

>>14738337
This has truth.

Truth is not voted on democratically. And It might not even exist outside of mind/thought.

Now I am a Christian - classical theist, so for me the ground of all is Being, Bliss, Consciousness - God, the grand truth and why I see revelation is relevant.

But again truth as it stands - is not determined democratically or by a big mob suddenly cheering something.

It comes established through scientific method, concrete acts, revelation.

Usually consensus of the learned - but intellectually honest - is a good start, if you want to play safe.

>>14732085
Klonopin

>>14735928
This place is just itself...
It doesn't attract anyone particularly, maybe you could argue that it's format filters for some specific characters but that's not the full story.

You may feel that way because you chose to read, reply and focus on losers - or actually you might project that on them without it even being the case.

There are countless successful people on all boards, good looking, rich, highly educated - active in threads. Many of them write stupid shit, cringe and so on, they are just people like me and you...

Given the format, I suggest you just don't care about those things, focus on the points being made, read the text and move on - try to not pass value judgements , I imagine it's a very taxing way of being emotionally.

>>14743879
>There are countless successful people on all boards, good looking, rich, highly educated - active in threads.
Correct.

I'm out of the loop, what happened?

>>14743938
Peterson is coping with his wife's cancer with benzos to which he is now addicted.

>>14742237
This is the kind of retard who keeps making peterson threads, literally never, at any point seen anyone make a thread about him that wasn't explicitly against him, or obvious bait. If you're going to be obsessed and delusional then at least be it in an interesting way.

>>14742237
A rare glimpse into the mind of a schizophrenic during brief moments of lucid attempts at sincerity

>>14743981
Get fucked, buddy. I'm not on this board 24/7 and this is the first time I see a thread about him. So yeah, maybe reconsider being the one calling others obsessed and delusional next time, idiot.

>>14742076
pol hated peterson from the start, what the fuck are you on about?

>>14743993
Ok. Right back at you, I guess, if that's all you got to say here.

>>14744000
racism is the boogie man, retard
Saint Tarrant did nothing wrong. Kill all invaders.

>>14738337
>Something is right or wrong no matter what anyone thinks about it.

Ignorance truly is bliss.

>>14738053
I think you think you are smarter than you are.

And im not some silly Petersonian or anything like that. But to think that because you can't control everything in the world, you can't make things better, and prepare for bad situations.

But keep being unemployed and out of shape, im sure all those self improving people out there making moves, creating a life for themselves are envious of you.

>>14744071
IM
IM......IMPROOOOOOOOVINNGGGGGGGGGGGG AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>14732085
>What led to his downfall?
Making a pact with the devil, beginning with co-Authoring UN Agenda 21/2030 type things

>>14740646
>honestly genuinely believes that human beings can discover something "beyond humanity"

>>14732085
not telling the truth

>>14733164
wittgenstein was BTFO by godel. a lot of retards think history stopped with wittgenstein because their project collapsed after him under the weight of godel's attacks

>>14744113
HughHA Goteeeem!

>>14735928
Not true; I got married to qt fiscally responsible waifu, am working as a resident doctor, and made a small fortune from crypto, have plenty of friends, but can never bring myself to leave this place.

>>14744071
>Ahhhh, nothing like a fresh clean room.

>Wait, what do you mean the economy has changed I got fired from a position I was overqualified for, because someone from the third world is willing to take my job for less pay?
>H-hah that's nothing I am very prepared, have a rainy day fund, I saved money, have investments. Let me just clean this room a bit more.

>Wait what do you mean some unexpected power move by oligarchies in some oil rich country shifted the marked and my investments all went to the trash?
>W-well I still have that good old rainy day fund. I think that corner could use some more vacuuming.

>Wait what do you mean I got diagnosed with melanoma? I never abused sun exposure and always ate a healthy diet and exercised and did everything google told me to prevent cancer. What do you mean my insurance doesn't cover the treatment, I was prepared and chose the best insurance? What do you mean I have to hire a lawyer to force them to pay? I am unemployed! O-ok I'll use that rainy day fund.
>B-but my room was clean. I don't understand.

>Wait what do you mean my wife is tired of seeing me unemployed and sick, I am constantly looking for a new job and I'm having a lot of expenses with treatment. I also think I might be developing an addiction to the painkillers but doctors keep telling me i'm just being silly and they are safe.
>Please. I just need to clean my room once more right? Once more and this will all go away?

>What do you mean she cheated on me? What do you mean my son got ran over by a car? What do you mean my sister was raped and shot by her ex-boyfriend and now is bed-bound and requires my financial assistance? What do you mean I'm developing anxiety and major depressive symptoms those are diseases only weak people have I am prepared I am PREPARED FOR EVERYTHING WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY MOTHER IS DYING FROM CHOKING ON HER OWN SALIVA DUE TO PARKINSONS AND I HAVE TO WITNESS HER SAYING SHE DESPISES HER LIFE WHAT DO YOU MEAN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I CLEAN MY ROOM PLEASE PLEASE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>14742105
Unironically who gives a shit? You realize even if we nuked two entire continents the world would still be too full, too many leeches constantly competing and outstripping resources. Why then should I give a shit about a people who were too inept to fight for their homes and simultaneously represent some eternal untermensch class of vermin?

>>14744113
Maybe not, but physics has given us a solid lot to go with. Relativity, particle theory, electromagnetism, QM, with these developments we have mobile phones, the internet, MRI machines, x-rays, computers, we understand so many secrets of the world that, a couple of centuries ago, were mere speculation. We are aware of from a young age the existence of things like protons, electrons, hydrogen, the elements, metals, magnets, electricity, etc... Isn't that in itself something to marvel at? We may never achieve the unachievable, but in striving to do so we have found so much, and yes, science always changes, but there will always be the fundamentals.

Psychology is fluid, there are not, and cannot, be such fundamentals, since all brains are different. The atomic makeup of matter never wavers. The speed of light is constant. Freud was debunked, but he was as right as any other crack head who thinks psychology has more to offer than neuroscience. We have medicine that cures depression but it also cures you of life, we have therapy that costs families thousands, despite the fact that there is rarely ever a point when you will no longer need therapy. These leeches! These vampires! They suck you dry, they prey on the vulnerable and suck and suck, they do not cure, even if they could, they would not, it is far too lucrative. To hell with them, and to hell with you.

>>14737984
>100% protein diets
kidneys love this.

>>14732094
>>14732106
I enjoy both Peterson and Zizek, but I thought that debate and the reactions to it were overdone. It was basically two platitude boomers unable to understand the times meeting for a debate without knowing anything about each other. Peterson gave a generic ass speech with no relevance. Zizek tried a gay cheap shot question (where are ze neo marxists) which was trash because anyone who has been more than five minutes in academia knows that the most common person is one influenced simultaneously by post modernists and marxists, asking him to name a few famous people who identify that way was stupid

Just an entertaining thing that revealed pretty aptly the limitations of both speakers. Peterson cannot see that liberalism is in its death throes, Zizek can but he's too stupid to accept the implications and thinks we can just shrug our shoulders and be comfy demsoc and everything will be fine. That's why his take on Bernie is so hilariously bad, "Trump actually fuels zee far left" nothing could be further form the truth. If anything it gave political ammunition to the libs when they most needed (beat trump now, worry about actual leftism later). The second shit gets interesting these boomer faggots are useless.

>>14735794
of course they won't. to do so would admit to an empiricist that there is a metaphysical component to behavior that can't be fully understood by material alone.

instead they're stuck with incongruent models of that black box we call a mind along with an aniumus toward a "scientific" field of pseudo-scientific quackery that they are obligated to pay lip service to.

>>14734497
troll/10

>>14744356
holy fucking shit lmaoooo

>>14738332
> muh evolution
Why are the people making grand evolutionist arguments about order from randomness also the ones who wouldn't know a Gaussian distribution from Cauchy even if it bit them in the ass?

>>14738053
You're a faggot. You suffer because you are weak and pathetic. I'm glad people like you suffer. You live in a degenerate time but you also have it easier and safer than ever before. You have the highest chance now of "lucking" out and reaping a bountiful harvest if you put the time in to sow.

tldr
You took a pebble of truth and rationalized your comfort and safety addiction. Deep down you know you are a cowardly little bitch who lacks the courage to kill yourself. We both know you will never grow out of this. This is your life cuck slave.

>>14741959
Imagine being this cucked

>>14742956
>I cannot be bothered to lerk or to do a basic websearch

>>14739473
A zero carb diet is mostly fat with a little bit of protein; cheese and eggs, the stuff our ancestors ate before processed sugar was invented.

Not steak all day every day.

>>14732085
The same thing that leads to the undoing of all shamans, mystics, and would be wisemen.
>Physician, heal thyself.

>>14744356
Is this modern version of Oedipus Rex?

>>14739505
> EAT YOUR FUCKING FRUITS AND VEGGIES
Bad advice. Modern fruits are artificial things bred for sweetness and shelf life. Basically, candy that grows on trees.

Real fruits are different. (But they don't make them anymore, not unless you grow your own.)

>>14745829
I've been here longer than you, little buddy. Unlike /b/, this board is for serious discussion, hence demanding rigorously defined terminology. Vaguely-defined buzzwords aren't going to cut it.

>>14732085
this lobsternigger is grade a laper faggot. he took a random flying dildo in his asshole the day decided to engage with philosophy.
im so fucking happy that he's dying a painful death lmaooo.
doc should prescribe his wife cleaning her room daily.

He got shown for what he truly is

Peterson has two layers, the first one is the most basic "live laugh love, do exercise" self help shit possible, and the second one is just reactionary rhetoric to grift alt right retards.

He got completely exposed by Zizek and the benzo situation completely showed how stupid his "philosophy" is, so he's fading into irrelevance.

>>14734515
>(toxic masculinity)
Oh absolutely fuck off.

>>14738053
You are an actual retard and have clearly never listened to Peterson once in your life and just get pissy that people try to deal with what life throws at them instead of just rolling over like a faggot (you).

Peterson never argued that doing certain shit would magically make life not shit, he literally argued from the stand point that life is a tragedy and how to deal with that and find meaning in it. Pessimists are so fucking retarded they think anything that isn't just admitting defeat is equivalent to thinking you're some how not going to die, suffer and feel pain.

>>14744007
>racism is the boogie man
Sure thing.
>Kill all invaders
You mean all the English, Americans and everybody else that colonized other parts of the world? By your worldview that is even what is happening and you just OK'd it, you fucking dunce.

>>14745895
Pretty much this.

>>14742105
>Millions of refugees and minorities are suffering because of people like Peterson
Sounds pretty based if you ask me.

>>14745830
Not petersons and it doesn't matter

>I've been here longer than you, little buddy. Unlike /b/, this board is for serious discussion, hence demanding rigorously defined terminology. Vaguely-defined buzzwords aren't going to cut it.

>>14732085
Being a midwit pseud with little self awareness

>>14746698
We're discussing Peterson, not ourselves anon.

>>14744685
Not defending psychology I was making a shitpost lad maybe you'd like a therapist to talk to.

>>14738337
>something is right or wrong no matter what anyone thinks about it.

were you born yesterday? lmao