/lit/ - Literature

>>14733795
they still are, they just moved to tv/films

>>14733795
>lit is for the discussion of literature
I really hate it here

>>14733799
>contemporary tv and film
>good

>>14733795
They stopped being outsiders looking in, now they're just insiders like everyone else.

>>14733801
I'm talking about literature. Numerous homos rank among the greatest.

>>14733819
based greek reader...

>>14733819
>faggots
>being good at anything other than taking up space

The arts and technology continue to advance and change everything.
Your opinions of them scarcely matters

>>14733931
Your opinion doesn't matter at all but you won't stop
Fuck off already you dumb cunt

>>14733931
>people still believe this fake trip is me

all the avant-adults have gone deleuzional
animal mode up the stairs. the invisible man
sexuality is conformist and preferences are incidental
nobody fucking cares except rage filled homeschool kids and religious reactionaries

>>14733976
I can't believe I can't believe it's not butter. Books for this condition?

>>14733795
the only good gay writer was proust

Before, a gay person was only famous if they were talented
Now anyone can be famous, including the untalented gays

>>14733848
>Being this uncultured

>>14733976
I'm unable to see any difference though

>>14733997
Got you senpai

>>14733931
>>14733976
Particular individuality doesn't exist on 4chan. What exists for self is the particular individuality, it is the self behind the screen, but it cannot be communicated to others, as it necessarily is not in the form of communication [ie. text]. What exists for others is text, but text can only be attached to a universal individuality, or rather it ambiguously has the character of universal individuality. So, the self that wants to exist qua self on 4chan attempts to use a piece of text that can only be used for its own particular individuality, which it attempts to achieve through the tripcode. But, by doing so, it has attached a meaningless arrangement of symbols that, while seemingly acting as a mediation between the particular individuality and the universal individuality of text, fails to communicate the character, ie. particularity, of the individuality itself, so it is superseded in communication by association by others to a smaller universal individuality, not Anonymous, but tripfags in general. The tripfag does not give up, however: they attach a name to the tripcode so to give some kind of memorable character which can be remembered by others and connected with other posts to give an association of the thoughts of particular individuality behind the screen. Now, the tripfag appears to be displaying a character that has some vague resemblance to its own particular individuality, created by the associative acts of others. However, this is destroyed once again because the "name" has no NECESSARY link to the tripcode, so that same names can be linked to different tripcodes, so the identifying characteristic that they used to allow people to associate their posts are able to be replicated by others. What follows is that the "name" in itself becomes an ambiguously universal individuality, of any number of posters who choose to identify themselves with that name. Now all forms of individuality on 4chan have proven unstable as particulars and only stable in the universal form, whenever others see a post on 4chan then, it can only belong to the largest universal individuality of Anonymous, the smaller universal individuality of tripfags, or the smallest universal individuality of any particular named tripfag. All tripfags, and especially any named tripfag, therefore have a negative relation to Anonymous, without realising that Anonymous is essentially universal individuality in itself, it is the substance and essence of all universal individuality. By having a negative relation to Anonymous and therefore itself, tripfags become destructive of the equal and in-and-for-itself state of Universal Individuality that is Anonymous, but are also essentially self-destructive, which basically means that tripfags should kill themselves.

>>14734077
More or less. Always found it odd that butterfly tripfags as that is a form of implicit hierarchy of individuality here which I do not know if justified or not in the specific context. I mean, no problem if she doesn’t, but I thought anon posting would be more along the lines of her anarchic principles.

>>14733795
Good art is born from struggle.

>>14734256
Fags struggle more than anyone to fit in between narrow minded bible thumpers and intolerant breeders if you know what i mean

Because the homosexual liberation coincided with the sexual revolution and as a result they all got thrown into the hedonistic clown world that is the current state of reality. Straight people never really endorsed homosexuals to have a place in society, so after decades of disappointment and struggles the only movement that could make the difference was the LGBT one which was and is still chock full of batshit crazy leftist Trotskyists. There have undoubtedly been homophile movements which aimed to put homosexuals in the same position as straights (i.e. monogamous, long term relationships) but none of these ever panned out as it should have. To this day the left wing is the only political stance homosexuals can take without being bashed or shamed by their own compatriots.

>>14733848
read mishima you worthless scum

>>14733799
Gay Tv & movies are worse than gay books though since the former are limited by the budget and censorship. It’s perfectly fine for a book to describe sex or masturbation in detail yet in movies they’ll just make a short montage and move on with it

>>14733795
they stopped sublimating

>>14733795
Suffering and oppression creates great art. The next great masterpiece will be made by an incel.

>>14733803
>hasn’t seen the young pope

>>14733795
They never produced good art. It was always shit-colored nonsense.

The rainbow flag is a metaphor for how faggots are perceived as opposed to how they actually are. They portray themselves as diverse and beautiful--in reality, their souls are a mixture of all colors. Brown. The color of shit.

Neither do they produce good nor beautiful things. Only ugly things, degenerate and vulgar things. Crass, disgusting, scatological things. Anything beautiful they created was by accident, and a product of their oppression, not of their true spirit.

It is a true wonder of our times that any person could be surprised that once you give people who have sex with human shit the liberty to do so publicly, you end up with shit everywhere.

>>14734278
>Fags struggle more than anyone now that literally institutions are required by law to pretend that their disgusting fetish is normal

I can't wait until the Muslims hang all of these people from construction cranes.

>>14734882
Forster, Wilde, Proust, Baldwin produced more revolutionary literature than your breeder ramblings put together, faggot.

>>14734886
seethe and have sex

>>14734882
wittgenstein would like to have word with you, faggot.

>>14733795
Suffering fuels art

>>14734077
this, I don't even care about butterfag's opinions, tripfags should just eat a bullet

Gay's are still in control of virtually all opposing factions, and they're natural accelerationists. Gay's don't take things as seriously as straight people do, because they operate outside of natural biological impulses to survive and reproduce.

>>14733795
Writing is a craft for the oppressed and suffering. If you lose those sentiments, it's harder to write gripping fiction.

>>14734882
Obsessed with feces and gays
Get help gaynigger lover

>>14734278
Most of your struggle is clearly self-inflicted if you know what I mean

because it went mainstream

>>14734906
Wittgenstein was an autistic retard and no one experiences his core issues in their day-to-day life. This century he will be acknowledged as a mistake.

>>14734077
It's a pity that the dried up cunted spinster is incapable of realizing how thoroughly his/her existence has just been annihilated.

>>14734891
>Forster
>muh flat vs round characters

Dreck.

>>14734077
>Particular individuality doesn't exist on 4chan
And even though this was wrong I tried to read on.
No. All wrong.
>>14734089
You know as little

Disregard what I just said; the menopause is screwing with my head.

>>14735539
kek

>>14733848
>>14734041
>>14734882
shakespeare, whitman, auden, lorca, jimmy merrill, ashbery -- their reputations and their queerness are beyond doubt

>>14733795
Once upon a time,a faggot didn't expose himself and bath in degeneracy.That repression led to creativity and great art. Nowadays it's just drug fueled fake subjective "art" for the sake of money, publicity and degeneracy.

>>14735610
this. when they were repressed they had to redirect the COOM to something divine given they'd be burn for their lifestyle. Now they coom on the streets and everyone claps. There is no more struggle. There is no more art.

>>14735609
It's not even clear Shakespeare was a real person you dumb shit.

>>14735610
sexual liberation and psychotherapy have been disastrous for creative endeavour. The impulses which where formerly repressed and sublated into great art are now wasted in the banality of the orgasm

>>14735626
weak b8

>>14735639
It's not bait, ignoramus. William Shakespeare was possibly the pen name of Francis Bacon among other authors at the time.

>>14733795
>YAAS KWEEN slay! so diverse. and. progressive. so inclusive and tolerant. muh politically correct victim lifestyle is subversive and edgy despite being endorsed by all major corporations! so vulnerable and marignalised! le cultural marxism community! muh child drag queens. woah you must be such an enlightened global citizen and a responsible consumer!

Maybe 40 years ago it was edgy and counterculture to be a gay queer who gets fucked in the ass, but nowadays, it's counterculture to read SIEGE declare self a national socialist and psychotically and obsessively hate gays

>>14735668
>its counter culture to be part of status-quo homophobia that still exists in all of africa, asia, middle east, and conservative america.

you know counter culture means doing something COUNTER to culture not falling in line with the establishment. edgy boi is edgy

They ruined the rainbow for me, I can never appreciate

>>14735683
the establishment is leftist and pro sodomy. cultural marxism has effectively replaced christianity as the state religion of the west

>>14735610
Let's repress breeders too and see if they can make better content than homos

>>14735664
this is cope for people who can't fathom that genius could exist without a uni education

>>14735697
Celibacy is a requirement to dropping jewels. Seneca, when he was producing his best work, was living in retirement with his old ass wife, hardly indulging in material pleasures. Ovid was in exile when he wrote Metamorphoses. Boethius was in prison about to be executed when he wrote the Consolations of Philosophy. This applies to all sexual orientations to pan fuckers to tree fuckers.

>>14735709
Irrelevant. The fact is that it is not certain he even existed, thus it follows that it cannot be 'beyond doubt' that he was queer, which is the argument I was refuting.

Do I have to explain the basic principles of logic now, too? Jesus Christ.

>>14735710
It's impossible to retain your dick milk forever you fucking cuck. If you refuse to empty your balls your instincts will kick in and urge you to jack off, and if you still refuse to your body will do it for you in your sleep. You incel nofappers are the height of cringe, get the fuck out of this board and bust a nut to cool off your mind.

>>14735731
>urge you to jack off
No frontal cortex whatsoever.

>>14735740
Enjoy your swollen balls and prostate cancer.

>>14735746
Have sex mon negro...

>>14735709
Unis are barely 800 years old. People before that went to small academies or got daddy to hire them tutors. Look at Alexander Pope. He was banned from Universities since he was Catholic and he still taught himself Latin/Ancient Greek, translated the grandest of the classics and elevated the English language

>>14733976
Sigh. You incels NEED to stop impersonating me.

>>14733795
Great Art is born of struggle and adversity. This culture of acceptance is reaching peak equilibrium and is antithetical to art.

>>14735799
Nobody accepts anyone who believes in racial inequality though.
It's only a culture of acceptance when it replies to the minorities.

>>14735694
>cultural marxism
yes, protecting private property and monetizing every counter-cultural movement to negate it and turn into a source of profit is very marxists. The culture industry uses "feminism" and LGBT to sell more shit, because, surprise, faggots and cunts also have money to spend and woke idiots think they are helping a cause by buying tickets to captain marvel and rainbow stickers. Its all about profit. It turns out white conservative men are not the only people with money to spend, its all about market forces expanding into every inch of life.

>>14734306
Wasn't gay retard, he had a wife and kids. He embraced Platonic brotherly love and that's based. Homosexuality is not.

>>14736761
He literally went to gay bars you ignorant faggot

>>14736781
a) Mishima never stated he was gay
b) his wife strongly denies he was homosexual or bisexual

According to the sources that say he visited gay bars, it was for "research" while he was working on Forbidden Colours. That is not proof he was gay. I trust him and his wife more than some people online making a guess that he was gay because he wrote a book about a guy who has homosexual desires and he visited gay bars a few times.

>>14735726
You speak of fact. Yet present fictions. No evidence to be found.

>>14736903
Yeah, never stated isn't a denial that he's gay. Also his wife would have every reason to deny she's a cucktress.

>>14733795
I believe you are looking for this

I'm currently reading The Picture of Dorian Gray and that shit isn't gay at all. Good book tho.

>>14733795
what are some examples of good gay (premodern I guess in this case?) art? asking because unironically interested. Also, what are some unironically good gay books, if they exist? I only know of contemporary ones like dante and aristotle discover the secrets of the universe and the trouble with that is that most of the five star ratings seem to be influenced by the "pro-lgbt mentality".

>>14737143
Yet you are just making guesses, and I have people that were extremely close to him agreeing with me. The burden of proof falls upon you and you have absolutely none.