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14681862 No.14681862 [Reply] [Original]

Is there any philosopher I can read that's actually enlightening and helpful? I've read lots of philosophy but most of it just to seems to be posturing, language games, and arguments for 18th century meaningless debates.

>> No.14681902

>>14681862
Jesus, Plato, Megan Boyle

>> No.14681944

I tried. >>14675013

>> No.14681945

>>14681862
The 19th century Russian philosophers might interest you, in particular someone like Kireevsky or Leontiev

>> No.14681951

>>14681862
Read Chomsky's influences

>> No.14681954

camus

>> No.14681986

>>14681862
Aristotles ethics is pretty legit.

>> No.14682071

>>14681951
Is Ralph Cudworth actually worth reading? Seems like Chompers has a major hard on for him

>> No.14682093
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14682093

>>14681862
UG Krishnamurti isn't exactly a philosopher, he's not selling you anything, his negation could be considered a philosophical contribution. If you hit a wall I'd say read him why not?

>Whatever pursuit you are indulging in, somewhere along the line it has to dawn on you that it is not leading you anywhere. As long as you want something, you will do that. That want has to be very, very clear. What do you want? All the time I ask you the question, "What do you want?" You say, "I want to be at peace with myself." That is an impossible goal for you because everything you are doing to be at peace with yourself is what is destroying the peace that is already there. You have set in motion the movement of thought which is destroying the peace that is there, you see. It is very difficult to understand that all that you are doing is the impediment, is the one thing that is disturbing the harmony, the peace that is already there

>If you are freed from the goal of the "perfect" ,"godly", "truly religious" then that which is natural in man begins to express itself. Your religious and secular culture has placed before you the ideal man or woman, the perfect human being, and then tries to fit everybody into that mold. It is impossible. Nature is busy creating absolutely unique individuals, whereas culture has invented a single mold to which all must conform. It is grotesque

>Political institutions and ideologies are the warty outgrowth of the religious thinking of the man; in a way responsible for the tragedy of mankind. We are slaves to our ideas and beliefs, and we torture ourselves in the hope of achieving something. All our experience, spiritual or otherwise, is the basic cause of our suffering... The body is not interested in anything "you" are interested in; that is the battle that is going on all the time.

>The fact is that we don't want to be free. What is responsible for our problems is the fear of losing what we have and what we know. All these therapies, all these techniques, religious or otherwise, are only perpetuating the agony of man.

>> No.14682099

>>14682093
I'd say to have an understanding of eastern philosophy before you do so though but not necessary

>> No.14682295

>>14681862
Uncle Ted

>> No.14682497

>>14681986
This.

>> No.14682531

>>14681862
just read self help

>> No.14682536

>>14682093
why are you still shilling this guy everyone thinks youre retarded

>> No.14682554

>>14682536
Cope brainlet

>> No.14682561

>>14682554
>>14682536
>debunks and destroys your false idols who prey on your stupidity

Of course you'd hate him and totally misunderstand you, you faggot

>> No.14682565

>>14682561
>you
Him

>> No.14682607

>>14681862
David Abram

>> No.14683419

bump

>> No.14683757

>>14681862
Helpful for what? Also, enlightening/helpful don't always play well together. Depending upon the context and person in question, a lie could be more 'helpful' than the the enlightened truth.

>> No.14683809

>>14681862
Wisdom of Life - Schopenhauer
In Praise of Idleness - Betrand Russel

>> No.14684102

>>14682071
literally who?

>> No.14684110

>>14682531
>just take the bluepill bro!

>> No.14684124
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14684124

>>14681862
Eliezer Yudkowsky

>> No.14684178

>>14684102
yeah pretty much
he's an old school rationalist philosopher who apparently wrote a fuckton. Chompers likes to name drop him a lot