/lit/ - Literature

What is?

>>14672444
The Universe is the thing in itself.

>>14672445
But can something which contains everything also contain itself?

>>14672445
Wrong

>>14672466
no u

>>14672458
If it contains everything it obviously also contains itself

>>14672486
But wouldn’t it have to be larger than itself to contain itself?

>>14672441
*retroactively refutes your entire philosophy*

>>14672444
our consciousness, thanks to the transcendental unity of apperception. this unity represents the I, which i recognize as as myself as 'I think', containing a universal and necessary connection between all my thoughts and intuitions. i think

>>14672505
9:45 am

>>14672445
Spacetime is the one 'thing' that actually exists. Every 'object' we think of as 'existing' is really just a set of properties (technically, an accumulation of fields) defined over Spacetime.

>>14672505
how is that a worhty quote to put in a meme.
Literally said and refuted a dozen times each by various philosophers.
Guenon fags are so annoying and offer nothing of value.

>>14672458
it's impossible for anything, or nothing, to exist outside the universe

>>14672869
Prove it.

>>14672656
That's a greenpill meme or whatever they call it on /x/. It's not anyones quote, it's just some gnostic 'humour'. Nothing to do with Guenon at all, in fact this rendition is actually quite funny. I'm sorry it annoys you so much anon.

>>14672505
Based

>>14672458
We can't say anything about the thing-in-itself so your question lies outside of our domain.

>>14673014
God man, I wish we never went past the late 1700's (minus the french revolution bit), it was such an aesthetic time.

>>14672441
Remember Indians who shit in streets solved consciousness and destroyed all philosophy far before White men

>>14675379
Every period was aesthetic pre-1940s, aesthetics became mere “fashion” post-60s, though of course it arguably had its roots earlier as well

>>14672458
It is itself

>>14672595
Define "object"

>>14672505
based Guénon poster

>>14672505
fill me in on Guenon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4SBy8SItEc

>>14677238
There are no objects. There is just spacetime and its local properties. But people still intuitively think of the world in terms of tables, chairs, and billiard balls.

>>14672505
come in

>>14672445
I am God? WE are God?

>>14677344
Yes.

>>14677352
If God is the creator, then he must create. Since we have been created by Him, we proceed from the essence of the Almighty.

>>14677397
>Christcuck misinterpreting everything again
No.

>>14677404
My brother. We are here to have elevated discourse. Please refrain from such slanderous terms. Don't be cruel to your Christian neighbor. Has thou not heard? Made are we in the image of God, or in the language of St. Paul (pbuh), "Imago dei." Please repent and say 10 Ave Maria's before sleep.

>>14677320
Spacetime isn't an object.

>>14677506
But brother! My brother, my limb, my soul, myself! How is it slander, if it is also the truth? Besides, hast thou not heard, that the fourth side of God, the side hidden beneath the veil, the side of which only the wise is aware, is nothing but all that is cruel? I belong to home, my brother. With all my cruelty, I belong to God -- for it is just a part of him.

Does anyone actually read the shit in this thread and believe it?

>>14677520
What did I just say?

>>14677534
Lo! My brother thou hast fallen far below the greatest of firmaments! Lead by a false light thou hast been; downward thou hast gone. Methinks that the whole of humanity gets, here and there, lost in the darkness of the thick forest, where animals revel in their carnal pleasure believing themselves to be hidden from all seeing God. With these alms, brother thou I beseech. With these alms brother, return to the light of the one true Creator, God, He who hath separated the light from the dark. With these alms, forgiven thou hast been. In peace go my brother. Hallelujah.

>>14677589
Brother, O my brother, worry not! For I am safe and sound. Your passion beguiles me, my brother, and your kindness even more. But brother, hast thou not noticed something is amiss? We have been lied to, my brother. Never have I fancied myself hidden from the all seeing eye of God. But brother, listen to me! Please have the courage! Take a peek on the other side.

We have been lied to, my brother. Behind the veil, truth is waiting for you. Come with us to the other side.

>>14673921
its not funny, its tragic

>>14672494
No. Your skin contains you and it is exactly your size.
>>14675385
Most literally worship idols.
>>14677397
>must
Not necessarily. As creations we do participate in (H)is essence though. Like the painting is the product of the painter etc.

>>14677534
>>14677589
>>14677726
Lets just ignore that shall we?>>14672441
Its funny. It seems to me that the majority reaction to kant was to perceive in his thought a bifurcation. I think it cant be seen as a monism though. Or at least not a dualism. The idea that we cannot know somethings is not enough to suggest that there is somehow two worlds. That seems a typical arrogant human denial.

"The world is my representation."

>>14672458
shut up pseud

>>14672445
Read Kant again, retard