/lit/ - Literature

your mind is a piece of chocolate, the world is a glass of warm milk. the chocolate enters the milk and melts into it, creating a milk chocolate mixture. This mixture later cools and your mind is now milk chocolate.

>>14670566
Read Kierkegaard instead

>>14670566
Who cares. Idealism isn't real and only brainlets are idealists

imagine your extended family is over for thanksgiving
your fathers side of the family is telling you pumpkin is the tastiest vegetable
your mothers side is telling you pumpkins are the tastiest fruit
the book is you explaining to them how pumpkins are both fruits and vegetables, but your babbling because you drank a bottle of nyquil

Sure. You ingest contaminated food and then you get food poisoning and then you squirt diarrhea.

>>14670591
I don't get it

>>14670566
You can see the orange and want to eat it but it came with a few additional extras. Bundled with the fruit was a collection of machinery of such vast and unhindered complexity that it was like wandering into some dystopian sci-fi epic. There is a machine that hums and glows with a faint light that stretches right up to the sky and another machine that appears to be able to create oranges straight from the quantum foam using a laser the size of a skyscraper. You drive for hundreds of miles in all directions but the machines only seem to increase in complexity.

After weeks you encounter a strange man and a young student sitting in the ruins of a machine the size of a city. The man's beard stretches off into the distance and the student questions him eagerly.

"Why don't we make a machine that can go back in time and feed an Orange to someone" - the student pauses, he looks contemplative, "before they even know they want an Orange?"

"tried that back in 79'" relies the old man, "you young-uns need to catch up"

>>14670601
perfect

>>14670608
Hegel is a pseud. Don't worry about it

>>14670673
t.autism

when you eat an apple it turns into shit. there is nothing about the apple in the shit, nor shit in the apple, but we can understand them as the same substance. since substance can both be an apple and not be an apple, it would seem it violates logic. but this is what time does, it allows substance to become other than itself. this means "pure being" is nothing, it is negativity, as it must be to support it both being and not being an apple. this pure negativity is subjectivity, and the stages than consciousness goes through (the becoming of substance) is digestion. absolute knowing is shit

>>14670733
>how to sound like a pseud 101

imagine you're having your breakfast and order every cheerio by little piles of three

then, WWII

>>14670566
>I don't get it. Can someone explain the whole thing to me, using a food analogy?
Your food is going to be there when you look somewhere else. I don't remember the rest but it works it's way up into into the doctrine of being which is covered in the science of logic.

>>14670765
what's wrong with it

>>14671304
The apple has not changed.

>>14671318
but it hasn't and it has at the same time

>>14671318
why don't you eat your shit then

>>14670566

>>14671344
i do eat my shit. we all do

>(Sup.) Thurs., Oct. 18.
>Hegel is here, whom Goethe personally esteems very highly, though he does not much relish some of the fruits produced by his philosophy. Goethe gave a tea-party in honour of him this evening, at which Zelter was also present, who intended to take his departure again to-night.

>A great deal was said about Hamann, with respect to whom Hegel was chief spokesman, displaying a deep insight into this extraordinary mind, such as could only have arisen from a most earnest and scrupulous study of the subject.

>The discourse then turned upon the nature of dialectics. “They are, in fact,” said Hegel, “nothing more than the regulated, methodically-cultivated spirit of contradiction which is innate in all men, and which shows itself great as a talent in the distinction between the true and the false.”

>“Let us only hope,” interposed Goethe, “that these intellectual arts and dexterities are not frequently misused, and employed to make the false true, and the true false.”

>“That certainly happens,” returned Hegel; “but only with people who are mentally diseased.”

>“I therefore congratulate myself,” said Goethe, “upon the study of nature, which preserves me from such a disease. For here we have to deal with the infinitely and eternally true, which throws off as incapable every one who does not proceed purely and honestly with the treatment and observation of his subject. I am also certain that many a dialectic disease would find a wholesome remedy in the study of nature.”

Marx does it with fruit in Ch. 5 of the Holy Family

As someone who does understand Hegel, it's hilarious to me how these threads always go exactly the same. If for once I saw a glimmer of hope for this board, I might be tempted to explain it to you all, but in the five years I can remember being on this board, I don't recall a single decent post. In fact, if there had been something along those lines, I'm sure it would've been capped long ago. It's also interesting how I rarely see useful caps of any posts on /lit/ nowadays...

>>14671440
it's also interesting how impossibly gay you are...

>>14671365
is nature subjective?

>>14670733
The apple is just a collections of atoms - your body is just breaking down the arrangement into something else. Nothing has fundamentally changed, the atoms are still the same coming out as they are going in, obviously plus or minus other atoms from digestive biological processes.

Coffee without cream is not the same as coffee without milk

>>14671617
anon it's a metaphor using food, obviously the process of digestion isn't a one for one description of Hegelian spirit.

>>14671635
based

>>14671440
>heh I understand him
>give me own interpretation to help others out? why would I do that

>>14671657
Is this a real photo?

>>14671679

Why are non idealists so arrogant and cringe? What is it that makes them so sure of themselves? The worst thing is that I remember how I was the exact same way and how nothing anyone could ever have said would have changed my mind
BUt today I know you’re wrong, so get the fuck off my board materialsts

>>14671304
I'm just saying Hegel is extremely hard to understand

>>14671737
Ideas don't run history, Material conditions do. Ideas don't form you, your material conditions do. This is obvious

>>14670566
no

>>14671440
actually i understand hegel better than anyone on this board and every single one of my posts is cool, epic and memorable. you just need to lurk more.

>>14671844
Explain then

ackshyoually I know hegel better than literally everyone here, but i won't explain him because i don't feel like it :)

>>14671861
LOL. Because it's impossible to explain the biggest charlton fraud who wrote like a madman

>>14671856
no

>>14671809
Next time try an argument.

>>14671809
Proof?

>>14671871
LoLz! (Seeing as that's the type of over-emotive, dated internet slang geniuses like you use I'll follow suit.) It's sorely obvious you dont want to expose yourself to be a charlatan. Yet you've already exposed yourself as a retard by admitting you've come here obsessively for five years.

>>14671440
All I've understood is understanding Hegel turns you into a faggot who complains but keeps coming back for more. Seems infantile.

If a woman rubs her clitoris and its menstrual fluids onto a taco that you are going to then eat unknowingly, either as a prank or due to sexual attraction, or both, and you then eat said taco; is this merely yet a taco, or if not, is this a taco taco? What we can deduce accurately, to be sure, is that it is not a fish taco, because that is a separate extant concept entirely its own, independently of this premise - a definition as literal as to refute colloquiality on principle. Purely there must be an adequate distinction between the variable and an otherwise unfettered taco; what you make of this taco, and what is whereupon unrefuted - this is the dialectic

>>14672477
>Proof?
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeerd

>>14670607
Went over my head

>>14671355

t.Luther

a single calf becomes Billions and Billions Served

It is sophistry, pure and simple.
Almost no one has ever read the thing. One Theravada Buddhist monk did, here is his story...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8iKFVdmjYq2N/

>>14670566

I asked Pannobhasa Bhikkhu for a food analogy...

>>14674774
Wait, the ultimate should be Apple Fritters!

>>14670589
Hegel was not an “idealist”

>>14674812
Yes he was you scarequoting pseud fuck

>>14670566
>a book about consciousness
>people using unconscious things as metaphors

bumpe

>>14670566
Do you even Gregory B Sadler bro (youtube is your fren)

>>14671517
>>14671659
>>14673503
okay, if I see one good post in this thread before it's archived, I'll make a new thread explaining all of Hegel (not just the Phenomenology mind you, his entire system included what he was doing in the Encyclopedia) in, yes, PLAIN ENGLISH even you retards can understand. call my bluff, losers.

>>14676988
pls help us anon chan

>>14676988
Don’t do this. Those who can’t understand shouldn’t.

I read this entire thread and I still don’t get it.

Wtf he mean by spirit

>>14670566
You need to enter into the secret mystery religions of ancient Egypt. Follow this knowledge and see it be transformed again and again in Ancient Greece's, Jewish, Christian, Buddhists, Hindu mystery religions, all of which only initiated the few into its true doctrine. Guénon (pbuh) has this wisdom should you seek it. All praise the most High.

>>14670589
t. idealist

>>14676988
I know Hegel better than you and know that you can't explain his entire system in bullet points

>>14670566
>hot food
>cold food
>warm food

Hegel is garbage

>>14671809
Nice idea, fag

I don't know about food analogies but Hegel (alongside Plato) and his popularity was a large reason behind the rise of Nazi ideology.

>>14677712
Thesis, antithesis, synthesis is Fichte not Hegel

>>14677712
So Hegel is the original radical centrist?

>>14670566
incredibly based post

>>14676988
what's wrong with this one
>>14670733

>>14670607
this thread JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER

>>14674289
Hahahaha

>>14678497
What’s up with that screenshot? I feel like there’s a joke I’m missing