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The central flaw behind Western civilization is the creator/creation dichotomy which is associated with substance metaphysics and the idea of thing-in-itselfness, that something only needs itself to exist, removed from anything else. This is the philosophical justification for private property, which requires dismissing parallelism and focusing only on linear causality. Substance metaphysics is the metaphysics of alienation, and one possible route to transcend this is process metaphysics, in which thing-ness is the total web of relationships between an event and everything else. In this view there is no distinction between a creator and a creation, and the concept of a singular creator creating a singular creation is replaced by an immanent creativity in which all events co-author the tapestry of existence.

The perception of reality that comes with this is all of existence as continually co-creating art, of not a singular purpose and meaning but an infinite number of them, a universe alive with unfathomable richness and depth of meaning that while we can only glimpse a small fraction of, such glimpses give a hint of the hidden vastness that while unreachable to us, can be experienced. Try to imagine your life as a relationship with the universe, not in a paternalistic sense or a dominative sense (as with the idea that the universe is a passive, meaningless void upon which one creates meaning out of,) but in a mutualistic sense of complete equality. Remember that this isn't a relationship between yourself and a singular unity, but a web of relationships of which the totality comprises your life, including your relationship with yourself. Seek mutualistic co-creative relationships in all affairs, not just between humans but all things, including elements of yourself, and you will find well-being and happiness.

Your afterlife is literally what happens after your life: there is no distinction between you and the rest of the universe, and so your becoming is truly immortal; you live on as the universe. Those who place all meaning in their own existence have their meaning die with them, but those who place their meaning in all that is outside them have immortal meaning.

>> No.14646928

>>14646864
That's an interesting thought, but it's not appropriate to humans and applicable to human civilization; humans abstract concepts, and their civilizations are, in consequence, reliant on these abstracted concepts, like e.g. private property.

>> No.14646943

>>14646928
No they aren't. If anything they have been harmful.

>> No.14646968

>>14646943
How would you organize society without, for example, private property; which is an abstracted concept?

>> No.14646970
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>>14646864
>maybe I can fool them if I say big words

Said a lot but said very little 1/10

>> No.14646972

>>14646943
>>14646928
The metaphysics of liberal individualism is diseased. Our abstractions need to be refashioned.

>> No.14647027

You have to postulate so much for what you are saying.

>> No.14647035

>>14646864
So what's your point

>> No.14647059

>The central flaw behind Western civilization is the creator/creation dichotomy
That isn't a flaw, it's a blessing.

>> No.14647106

>>14647059
cringe

>> No.14647139

>>14646864
>The central flaw behind Western civilization is the creator/creation dichotomy which is associated with substance metaphysics
Close. But the central flaw of western civilization is actually metpahysics itself i.e. the declarative proposition; the privileging of presence over absence.

>> No.14647142

>>14646972
What do you mean by "individualism"?

>> No.14647146

>>14647059
fucking cringe

>> No.14647163

>>14647059
based!

>> No.14647183

>>14647059
>central flaw of creator/creation dichotomy
>not a flaw but blessing
re: Blessing: that gift given by god.

sooo.... circumlocution?
To assume it is a blessing requires the acceptance of the myth.


just sayin'. You should probably stay away from philosophy...

>> No.14647244

>>14647059
based

>>14647183
holy mother of cringe

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