/lit/ - Literature

>>14641287
Is that a young George Soros ?

>>14641287
literally me in the foreground

>>14641322
A Belarus peasant boy who ages visibly from what horrors he’s seen.

Andrei Rublev, Barry Lyndon, and The Seventh Seal are the only movies worth watching desu

>>14642706
based

>>14641287
Just watched The Lighthouse. It is very.../lit/.

>>14641287
Tarkovski in general
Thirst (2009) if you are into slightly bizarre films that aren't actually crap
It's such a beautiful day (if you are a pussy)
Funny Games (the original, US remake is shit)
12 angry men
Primer (2004) dry scifi

Synecdoche, New York
Adaptation
Three Colors trilogy
La Haine
Amelie
Antichrist
Tetsuo: The Iron Man
Yojimbo
Kingdom of Heaven
The Cranes Are Flying
Mulholland Drive
On the Waterfront
8 1/2

>>14641287
Anything other than actually reading, huh /lit/?

>>14642706
that's a very specific list

>>14643687
8 1/2 utterly blew balls

>>14641287
Movies based on books and llays worth seeing
-Don Quixote (1956)
-Dreigroschenoper and L'opera de quat'sous
-Welles Macbeth, Othello and Chimes at Midnight
-Fellini Satyricon
-Rosselinis Socrates

>>14643721
the themes of getting old and frivolous nature of life resonated with me.

>>14641287
Read Satantango then watch Satantango then dance tango with Satan.

>>14641287
Ran and kagemusha
Call Me By Your Name (yes it's a meme, still good tho)
Battleship Potemkin
Coraline
The Secret of Kells
I liked the fairytale atmosphere of Tale of Tales
>>14642757
I was gonna watch it, is it genuinely scary? I'm a huge pussy and it's keeping me from watching so many films

>>14643957
>Call Me By Your Name (yes it's a meme, still good tho)
I ain't watching no gay porno.

>>14643978
>denying yourself the greeks

>>14643721
?

>>14643687
Only Yojimbo is worth watching. Rest are meh

Lost in Translation.

>>14641287
based wanger

Citizen Kane is really lit, do t let the memes get you. Also watch Angel's Egg.

Trier's 'The Idiots' and Haneke's 'Funny Games'

>>14642795
Haneke is SHIT.

>>14645504
SHIT.

>>14643957
Not scary, no. More like a psychological thriller. Very engaging.

>>14644116
Yes, for sure.

What did /lit/ think of this

>>14645514
>>14645527

>>14645564
Bad.

>>14645633
You forget two letters when you were trying to type "Based".

>>14641287
Lars von Trier makes plenty of edgy, masturbatory stuff. Perfect for this board.

>>14645564
Some pretty shots, but ultimately felt like a montage of creepy scenes. The last act wasn't nearly as psychedelic as they thought it was. The first hour is wasted setting up plot points that serve no purpose and are dropped whenever the director felt like throwing in another shot of the villagers looking creepy.

>>14645733
I feel like Trier has at least enough respect for the audience to try to amuse them when he's at his most masturbatory, unlike a certain Austrian whom I have a strong urge to savagely beat.

>>14645564
pure cringe

>>14645514
shut the fuck up, bitch

>>14645852
https://www.waggish.org/2010/michael-haneke-the-white-ribbon-2/

>>14645860
Literally who?

The film Stalker

>>14643704
>r than actually reading, huh /lit/?
lekllllllllllllllll

>>14645873
>Man with a movie camera
Yes, I've seen that YouTube video felching the cum out of George Lucas's asshole, too.

>>14641287
This movie will fuck you up, especially if you're a massive pussy
[]like me[]

>>14645564
good cinematography and i like Christian as a character (the actor did a great job of making him a total numale redditor type) but that was about it. Dani was an insufferable whiny bitch, none of the swedish girls were even hot, the death scenes were trash (ooooohh he cut off the kids face and wore it so you know he died!! spooooky!) it was way too long, had to have the fucking token sex/nude scene that every fucking horror movie has and the steroetypical bunch of old naked witch ladies chanting in a circle at that, and the worst part of all was that these swedish people were a bunch of faggot cucks lmao. how am i supposed to be scared of a bunch of broads and some skinny twig swedecucks and old dudes, like yeah, they're pagans living in the woods isolated from everyone else doing weird shit, but they're completely non-intimidating. not really a good "villain" for a horror movie at all lol. they could've at least added some viking-type dudes or something to make the place a little more daunting.

>>14643704
I find watching movie adaptions easier than reading the books.

i dont even know how to tell you how much i love this kino

>>14641287
BvS is one of the highest pieces of art ever created

>>14646299
It's great, love Sorrentinos work.

Tarkovsky (his best are The Mirror and Stalker), Kubrick and Bergman are all great. I also like some of Malick's stuff (Thin red line and ToL) and really enjoyed his new film, A Hidden Life. If you want a great Catholic Existentialist movie I cant recommend better. Also Faust (1927) is pretty damn /lit/

>>14646299
i still have the great beauty on my backlog, but you shouold watch the young pope if you haven't. The New Pope too. 2 miniseries directed by Sorrentino

>>14645564
Looks pretty and is well-crafted, but ultimately has very little to say. Also thought it suffered from Ari Aster's apparent disdain for the horror genre. The 2018 Suspiria is a good comparison - another "horror" film that has a dance scene at the climax and that ends in bloodshed. Both are also similar in tone and pace, but while Suspiria picks up the pace when it should, such as in the brilliant dance scene or the ending, Midsommar fails or seems afraid to fully dive into the insanity. Aping Tarkovsky really doesn't work for everything

>>14645873
All kino, except for The Man Who Sleeps. Thought that was really overrated. Also haven't seen Hail Mary

1917 is pretty kino

Oslo, 31. august
Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
Cave of Forgotten Dreams
Grey Gardens
Le rayon vert
Pierrot le Fou
Interiors
Sedmikrásky
Ohayô
Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot
Paris, Texas
Vertigo
Smultronstället
Lars and the Real Girl
The Princess Bride
Spring Breakers
Rear Window
Plein solei
Kokuriko-zaka kara
Mimi wo sumaseba
Kurenai no buta
Annie Hall
Gummo

>>14646716
KINO

>>14646700
Maybe if you've never seen any other war film

>>14641287
Best film of all time

>>14645564
I found it shallow and pedantic

>>14641287
Watch Network.

>>14645564
shit

>>14646846
lol okay faggot, it is the best WWI film in quite some time. suck a dick.

>>14642757
You've seen less than 100 movies, haven't you?

>>14646893
Doesn't hold a candle to Gallipoli, All Quiet, Lawrence of Arabia, Colonel Blimp, Grand Illusion, Westfront 1918, The Big Parade. They Shall Not Grow Old is also far better. The only remotely interesting things about the film is the cinematography (which is subpar compared to a lot of Deakins' other work) and maybe the set design. Other than that it has nothing new or interesting to say

>>14645564
I said it once and I will say it again, Ari Aster is a total hack

>>14646097
>Christian
>a character
the only time he displayed any "character" is when the plot needed advancing. you are the dick bro-before-your-ho boyfriend. okay, now we need tension in the group, you are now the steadfast academic who will fuck over his bros for a dissertation. you are now burning. fucking boring as shit

>>14646922
every film you mention is at least 30-40 years old, and they shall not grow old is a documentary. fuck off retard.

>>14641287
I like Trier. Antichrist is worth a watch, as well as Melancholia, though it's not as good. Nymphomaniac isn't so great and is really only worth it if you're a fan of his stuff. His smug exploitation is painfully obvious and his repeated attempts to cover his ass because of the Cannes film is just awkward to watch. It still has some nice ideas, as well as all the audio visual stuff you'd obviously want out of a film. Dogville is worth a watch - it's second to Breaking the Waves, my favourite Trier. Manderlay isn't as good as Dogville - probably better to watch it before Nymphomaniac. It's more satirical than affecting. The Idiots is the most testing to watch. I don't know what to think about it. You can torrent it all - you won't really know how good it is till you've seen it yourself.
Bladerunner is good, I suppose, but 2049 was more affecting. Made me feel oppressively sad afterwards.
Tarkovsky is an obvious choice, for good reason.

>>14646946
>steadfast academic
what the fuck lmfao

>>14646947
How is that relevant?

>>14646955
>Blade Runner
>genreshit that ruined the already genreshit book
>2049
>affecting
What a joke. Was the main character literally you, anon?

>>14646964
>bro I don't care if you brought me along as a favor just to look at some places for your dissertation, because I just decided this is MY dissertation now and I care so much about my dissertation that I will act highly irrationally for the sake of my studies.

>>14646981
I said it was the best WWI film in quite some time, not a GOAT film. You're just a pretentious bitch that wanted to name drop.
>>14646984
I think the point was that Christian is lazy and not actually a steadfast academic.

>>14646955
huh?

Marriage story

>>14646981
Idk. I didn't really feel much for the first one but I just say it's alright to avoid arguments I don't care about. I don't even know if I identify with the main character - and all around whatever got to me was a kind of bloated story that all played into one I didn't care about. But it still got to me, hence why I mentioned it.

>>14646998
>the point was that Christian is lazy
lol so it had nothing to do with the strange practices of the tribe they were with? he was just lazy but really needed a dissertation? if that were true, he could have picked any of the other places that guy was traveling to; they even discuss about how the only reason they both want to do the dissertation on that tribe is how important and groundbreaking the work would be

>>14647053
Watch more film. Every "marriage arguing" movie done before is better.

>>14646898
you've seen less than 100 irl titties havent you?

>>14647053
Is that actually Marriage Story? Stoner's on the table for anyone who didn't notice

>>14647086
Yeah that's from the movie. It's from the Halloween scene when he's dressed up as the invisible man.

>>14647073
What about the parts where it says he hasn't thought about the dissertation? He isn't a steadfast academic, he's a lazy asshole.

>>14646947
>>14646998
Doesn't matter if it's a documentary, it's a recent WWI film. Also named the rest to make the point that even if 1917 is the "best WWI film in some time," it doesn't to come close to any of the WWI films that are actually worth remembering.

You also said it's "kino," which implies it's at the least very good, when it's no more than a 6/10

>>14647175
my whole point is his character is inconsistent to suit whatever the narrative needs lmao of course it doesn't make sense

>>14647219
what

>>14647222
my point was the character is inconsistent, and you debated that by bringing up inconsistent elements of his character (i.e. he hasn't even thought about his dissertation but also cares about it enough to fuck over one of his best friends)

>>14647201
>no more than a 6/10
Nah, especially considering the quality of most films made in the same time period.
>>14647219
But he is shown to be a lazy asshole throughout the entire film

>>14647222
>>14647234
continuing this thought, they could have just had him interested to find his dissertation too, then he and his friend find himself committed to the same one. literally creates the same dramatic tension and puts the plot in the exact same place.

>>14647237
he is show to be an asshole to his girlfriend. they even give a very clear reason why he is an asshole to his girlfriend. AND this is constantly foiled by him treating his friends BETTER than his girlfriend. it's lazy writing is what it is.

>>14647245
>himself
themselves

>>14647237
>same time period
Same time period as in the year 1917 or same time period as in 2019? If the former, I don't see how that's relevant, and if the latter, there was a lot of great films in 2019

I think that the majority of this board would benefit enormously from watching Jean Renoir's The Rules of the Game two or three times.

>>14647258
2019, how could you have possibly misinterpreted my post so badly? Are you autistic?

>>14647287
Why didn't you just say "made recently" or "made last year," are you autistic? Who the hell says "time period" when talking about this past year, especially when it's only February 1st? That's strange.

Also, compared to the films being made today, 1917 is mediocre, so you're still wrong.

>>14647286
I have, I've also seen Grand Illusion. I plan on watching his other films eventually too, but I hardly watch films anymore lol.

>>14645873
I'm envious that you were able to get through the 13 hour Out One lol. I have no attention span anymore. Dekalog, Out One, Napoleon (1927), and I, Claudius I refuse to even start because I'm not sure I could commit to finishing.

>>14647332
>mediocre
no, it definitely isn't.

>>14647080

>>14641287
the road

>>14643687
>Kingdom of Heaven
lol

>>14647350
Different anon so no opinion on the mediocre comment, but I've been meaning to see it for the past few weeks, but have been deterred by the actors in it and Sam Mendes. Maybe I'll go on Monday though.

>>14645564
I liked it

>>14647237
>Nah, especially considering the quality of most films made in the same time period.
There's lots of good films made now. Lady Bird and The Florida Project were great. Ash is Purest White was kino, Andrey Zvyganistev is a master, Pawel Pawlikoski is great, Linklater is still in his prime: Everybody Wants Some, Before Midnight, and Boyhood all this decade. Barry Jenkins is a frivolous thinker and conformist, but makes beautiful films. Safdie Brothers have potential, Eggers has impressed me. Debra Granik is great. The Rider was phenomenal. IDK anon, don't buy into that meme, there's literally 5-6 great films every year.

>>14645566
What is literary about torture porn?

>>14647086
Good eye

>>14641287
Harry Potter
The Perks of Being a Wallflower
The Hungergames
Twilight
Solaris

Laplace's Demon

>>14647350
It certainly looks bad against its contemporaries.

>>14645564
Made me appreciate Borean culture more. The message was that native culture is more liberating and feminist in their arcaic ways than the libertine modern sex marketplace.

>>14647377
>Eggers has impressed me
You were doing so well.

>>14646299
Fellini rip off

>>14647413
Ah yes, contemporary titans like Birds of Prey, Star Wars, and Jumanji. True classics, and far better than 1917.
>>14647377
I should have stipulated that I mean larger budget films generally, not all film.

>>14647428
Why exactly can't 1917 be judged against all of its contemporaries?

>>14647420
Fair enough, but I saw a lot of value in The Lighthouse aesthetically. The themes/psychology were underdeveloped, but I thought it was a unique experience watching it, and as for The Witch, that was a nice film but underwhelming. I liked the contemporary indie horror films a lot in general: It Follows, The Babadook, and The Lighthouse were great IMO. Hereditary and The Witch were nice, nothing special, and I think Jordan Peele's films are cancerous and to be avoided.

The Audition is lit as fuck but in a way only properly conveyed through film.
Aquarela is poetic.
Der Himmel uber Berlin is another must see.
Posessed for something totally off the rails.

Pasolini's trilogy of life is pretty lit

>>14647440
The Witch is by far the best of those new horror movies, and it's not even close. That movie will last forever, it's timeless

>>14647441
I mean Possession, the Polish-German film.

>>14647428
>I should have stipulated that I mean larger budget films generally, not all film.
Fair enough, but most large budget films have been terrible IMO. Mad Max: Fury Road was very good, but uncertain IMO, Mission Impossible: Fallout was good but bloated and naive, Black Panther was shallow and tedious, but at least the filmmaker meant what he was saying (even if naive), Blade Runner 2049 tried too hard, The new Planet of the Apes were enjoyable, nothing more, although, I thought Dawn was very well-made, Endgame and Star Wars were abominations, A Quiet Place was fun. I've yet to see 1917, but I'll do so this week. I'd say Fury Road was the best large budget film I've seen this decade that I could think of.

>>14647444
My only contentions were the aesthetic which felt very sophomoric, and the ending which was reductive (both of which were fixed in The Lighthouse), but both were enough to warrant a less than remarkable experience for The Witch IMO. Why did you like it so much?

>>14647450
damn dude why do you even bother watching those

>>14647450
I watched Mad Max a while ago again.
It's shittier than the first time.

>>14647462
Because I'm severely depressed, and have no idea what to do in my free time. I also saw those all in theaters, and stopped going to the movies/watching movies in general lol.

>>14647053
i watched the fight scene and fuck that shit. i have to much ptsd from my real parents arguing like that. i'll stick to cartel face-skinning vids, ty

>>14647466
Yeah I wasn't too impressed, I doubt I'll ever see it again.

>>14647450
1917 is definitely better than Fury Road. I don't think it as try hard as BR2049 either. The characters are rather stiff and there are a few scenes that I thought were poor, but it is noticably higher quality than most films with similar budgets.
>>14647430
It can be

>>14647511
Then stop doing so bizarre as only comparing it to movies with similar budgets and admit it's mediocre compared to all modern serious movies.

>>14647519
Your category is immaterial, what the fuck is a serious movie?

here is some kino

>>14647522
It's mediocre compared to all movies. Happy now?

>>14647525
But that is untrue.

>>14647538
You already conceded this though >>14647377

>>14646922
>Colonel Blimp
Amazing film.

>>14647461
I can't write a proper thing about it right now but I was blown away by everything about it, Ill just list some of it
>the acting- especially that scene with the boy being exorcised, holy shit, but they're all great
>cinematography, there were some extremely striking shots, the raven, the shot of the woods immediately after she takes the vow with the drums
>score, nothing amazing but well done spooky horror strings
>dialogue was beyond perfect
>set design was extremely realistic
>pacing was perfect imo, an initial shock and then a slow heightening dread with a crazy climax
>thematic content. Playing it as a straight Christian horror story about the devil taking over an isolated family lent it a huge amount of weight. The worldview of deterministic providence, the visceral reality of evil, and those who succumb to it, all in this totally isolated location
>You actually cared about all the emotional drama going on, the relationships of all the characters to each other, how it gets increasingly more twisted. And this mixes so well with the themes, the Father's pride and cowardice, the Mother's lack of charity, the son's nascent lust, the daughter's impiety. The children are still innocent but they're first to fall because the literal fucking devil is living with them. Again that exorcism scene when the father yells DAMNATION because they've fallen and cant recite the prayer, it's just so good. and it all climaxing in the fight between the mother and daughter, an insanely intense scene where all their hyper polite norms of conduct are just violated by the mother yelling "PROUD SLUT" and attacking her, because she's completely fallen
>you can't tell if the family are just insane religious zealots or if its real for a long time, which heightens the tension, because for them it's faith, but ironclad faith. This is a typical horror trope but it's perfect for a movie about faith.

I can maybe see the aesthetic being sophomoric as you put it, it was his first movie and all and it was kind of typical stuff I guess. The ending though I thought was perfect, the demonic, insane, exhausted exhilaration of giving up your soul to the devil after everything you ever knew and cared about was taken from you, youve been tortured physically, emotionally, and you have no options left at all. That scene when she talks to the devil just surprised the shit out of me, made me feel like a little kid watching a movie. Then the walk into the woods and the delirium of the final sequence. She didn't deserve anything that happened, none of them did, even though they were all sinners, everybody is in that worldview, and they don't even know who is the elect, there is a good scene with the father and son discussing that in the woods. There are more things that tie in perfectly like the mother's dream about Christ showing the absurdity of their trying to live up the measure of Jesus' behavior and power.

some more stuff I could say but post is too long.

>>14647543
But I moved the goal posts on you. Compare 1917's budget to every film you listed before. That category is material, while serious is not a real category.

>>14647578
How is budget relevant to quality? Good is good and bad is bad. I'll compare 1917 to other good films.

>>14647585
You wouldn't compare Burger King to a gourmet burger joint, would you? ;)

>>14647578
>>14647585
Dunkirk was better.

>>14647612
Yes, I would call bad things bad :)

>>14647616
Dunkirk was actually worse
>>14647620
The comparison is between Burger King and McDonald's

>>14646716
Not even the best Ghiblo film let alone best Takahata film

>>14647425
>make homage and pay tribute to felini in every interview
>plebs still call you a ripoff
I watched La dolce vita because of people like you, and I honestly don't see the problem. They have similarities, but in the end they're still very different movies.

>>14648418
La Dolce Vita is one the best movies I've ever seen. I've always had disdain for the median to some extent, but in the same week I saw La Dolce Vita and The Mother and the Whore and saw the artistic merit. Have seen very few films since that have had that same impact on me. Children of Paradise was one of them though.

>>14648418
>>14648459
Different anon btw.

>>14647656
>Dunkirk was actually worse
I liked Dunkirk a lot, so after I see 1917 on Monday I better fucking like it more anon, fuck. I hate Nolan too, so for me to like a movie of his is a rarity. Dunkirk and Memento were pure kino though. The Dark Knight is very good, but overvalued. Everything else is conformist garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uoXF6nd45w&t=77s

>>14646898
*farts in monochrome for 1 hour and 30 minutes*
ah yes... very /lit/ indeed

Everyone on this board needs to be permabanned

>>14647440
Funny story, they actually shot most of the scenes from It Follows at my friend's house.

>>14648605
If only for the reason that no one has mentioned anything about this film. Perhaps because it’s commonly accepted as the Movie, in itself.

>>14647674
Man, you have no heart.

>>14642795
There's nothing /lit/ about Primer.

_

>>14646097
The only thing that could be scary is big vikings with bulging biceps.
Why would I ever be scared of if there isn't a big scary-looking Swedish beefcake on the screen?

You must be great to watch movies with

>>14641620
What did he see?

>>14650490

>>14645564
Directors cut is awesome

>>14647410
find the intruder

>>14645564
Jew trash.

>>14643844
Unironically planning to do this sometime this month.

>>14645564
This film not only tries too hard to be experimental-horror but is absolutely incel-tier, especially considering it's aster's morbid fantasy of revenge against an ex. Maybe MAYBE if the genders of the main characters were switched, it'd be far more interesting

>>14648722
>boy meets girl
>girl is a """stacy""" thot
>boy rage quits
>becomes legend
>also elvis
kino

>>14647011
the only two ive seen on here
>2001
okay, not the best kubrick movie
>akira
bad
>>14647218
i dont recognize any of these

are these chart memes or legit? ill pick out a couple and watch them as long as they arent memes

>>14645564
once you realize it goes back and forth between a horror and comedy it's pretty good lmao

>>14646898
lol...how about you rebut what I said?

>>14650490
The horrors of war. Watch the movie.

>>14652572
What’s your best-Kubrick?
Your opinion of Akira is shit, but avoid Salo.
Instead see Kurosawa’s Ran. I love his Dreams, but why is that there and not Ran, the filmmakers own favorite, I donno.

>>14645564
Good movie if you know anything about film.

>>14652793
clockwork orange is my fav kubrick, but i havent seen his entire oeuvre, mostly his later works. i havent seen lolita or goodlove
akira is just an action movie, it looks very pretty but there are movies that do more than look pretty so theres no raisin to settle

>>14652316
kys

Dark is the /lit/test tv show.

>>14643957
No scary, but good.

>>14641332
extra work is a darling little thing isn't it?

>>14650814
kek

>>14653156
>tv
tv shows cannot be /lit/ they are far too corporate
who was the publisher? if it was a weird avant garde channel like adult swim then maybe

>>14653222
Its distributed in the U.S. by Netflix.

And it is 100% /lit/. Everyone on this board would love it, I'm nearly certain.

>>14653229
>Netflix
im very skeptical, anon, not gonna lie

>>14653261
It was produced by a German company and it's a German show. Netflix has no creative control over it.

>>14652305
>absolutely incel-tier
you think? the men in the film are by all accounts worse than dany

>>14653281
How do you figure that? Dany lets her boyfriend be burned alive

>>14646856
Raging bull is better

i watched One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest the other night (havent read the book) and i thought it was very /lit/

>>14653307
yes, but within the context of the film I think we're supposed to be sympathetic, at worst ambivalent towards that, especially given the trauma and carnivalesque environment. if anything, it seems like aster is trying to excoriate the pettiness and mediocrity of a certain kind of man, one typified by dany's bf

>>14653376
I dont understand how you can be sympathetic towards someone letting their boyfriend be burned alive. The boyfriend being mediocre or petty is completely besides the point.

Anons, I am gong to watch a movie right now. I've maybe seen two dozen films, so I can't tell you what I like. Something bleak? Give me three movies and I'll watch one of them.

>>14653392
have you never heard of an antihero? that being said, Ari Aster is a fucking HACK and you are right to be against this movie

>>14653397
Stalker

>>14653400
I just found her unpleasant, I didn't sympathize at all. I found all the characters unpleasant

>>14653414
she was the only character really, everyone else was a plot contrivance. the next closest character was the Icelandic(?) friend and even he was just an exposition mouthpiece by the end. fuck this shitty soiboi cunt thinks he can ape Rosemarys Baby and Wickerman and fucking sub 100 IQ faggots who watch the Conjuring and Hill House and think it must be an art film because of half decent shot composition. HACK

>>14653411
Thank you anon, this looks good.

>>14653392
would you condone it IRL? no, but I think you are missing the point of the movie if you think Aster is trying to depict dany or women in general as bad or evil

>>14653499
>trying to depict dany or women in general as bad or evil
I don't think this was implied at all. But it's a horror movie, we are supposed to be horrified by her getting brainwashed and smiling at the torture and murder or her boyfriend. I understand that you can read it metaphorically as being about getting over an ex or whatever, but on an object level Dany is a fucking psycho.

>>14653397
Terrorizers, The Passenger, Institute Benjamenta or This Dream People Call Human Life

>>14653510
are you the anon who called the film "incel tier?" that's what I thought you meant, if it was you

>>14653524
no my bad I just entered the conversation. I agree it would be strange to call it incel tier.

>>14653518
Thank you anon, these look good as well. I'll watch one right now.

>>14653567
Let us know what you think when you finish

This didn't resonate with /lit/? I think his films are always paced great and feel wholesome.

The Leopard.

>>14646716
>*blocks your path*

Better WW2 anime film that isn't pure torture porn

>>14643721
Oi m8 I swer

>>14645564
It was good


I've never seen it

>>14646866
>Watch Network.
the first half
>>14647080
Is that in pairs of tits? So 50 women?

>>14645564
It was a bad film.


I've never seen it.

>>14641287
Can't go wrong with PTA. This film is ridiculously underrated.

>>14654536
One of my least favorite PTA films, still good though.

>>14654551
Really? I've only also seen There Will Be Blood and The Master, but I liked Phantom Thread more than both of those. Visually the movie was suberb plus I liked DDL bullying Krieps

>>14654644
I found it too lowkey for my taste, it's a much subtler film than his other stuff. I prefer Magnolia, the master, twbb and inherent vice to Phantom thread desu. It's a linear actor's movie whereas I prefer a little spectacle in my films.

>>14645860
>he wants to “rape the spectator into autonomy,”
basis et rubrum pilula

>>14641287
Even though it's slightly lesser known compared to Late Spring and Tokyo Story, pic related is my favourite of Ozu's and visually one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen.

>>14654955
Good Morning is the GOAT Ozu desu

>>14647442
what is that the UI of?

Alexei German's Hard to Be a God

>>14646866
This is one recommended classic that I hate to say feels dated.

The whole shtick after the guys epic rant is that the news team/TV producer lady is just insanely unethical, the kind of person who will invent a story out of thin air or encourage actual violence just to be there to film it.

Maybe in the '70s this was still a shocking notion but most everyone today believes the news is complete shit, so the whole premise isn't as shocking anymore as the movie needs you to believe it to be.

>>14655424
>dated
you are in the literature board

>>14642757
I was very disappointed with it. Surface level references to greek mythology that didn't communicate anything about the movie.

>>14655744
Well, wouldn't an uneducated sailor in the 19th century have a surface level knowledge of greek mythology?

>>14655760
Yeah I guess that excuses your lack of talent, Eggers.

>>14655800
Which of the two uneducated characters would you of liked to expound on the mythology? The movie isn't meant to be an allegory, it's supposed to be ambiguous.

this has been a good thread for recommendations
I have quite shit taste but I liked Richard Linklater's early shit for quite a long time, recently started getting into abstract stuff though and Stan Brakhage's Dog Star Man, there's also Camera Buff by Kieslowski which was just a good fucking film

>>14646716
FUCK their Aunt. Never hated anyone more in my fucking life

>>14645873
I fucking hate Godard and Bresson so much. Do people even enjoy these french snoozemasters? Or do they just convince themselves that they have to like them because they have "historical significance!!!"
I'll stick with Melville and Clouzot

>>14655412
>Three hours of plebs shitting on screen while laughing.

>>14641287
Night Hours

>>14656354
pierrot le fou aint no snoozefest

>>14641287
All films are /lit/ by definition

>>14654682
I want to check out Inherent Vice, but I want to read the book first. I'm reading V right now and like it so far. I notice there's a decent amount of grammatical errors in it tho. Is that intentional due to Pynchons post-modern style?

>>14656354
based, Au Hazard Bathazar is boring and masterbatory

>>14647218
Half of those are absolute garbage

>>14642795
>US remake is shit
you absolute fucking pseud

Doctor Zhivago
Ran
Orson Welles' Macbeth, Othello and Chimes at midnight
Harakiri
1940s to early 60s Hitchcock
Italian Neorealism (bicycle thief and Umberto D.)
Simon of the dessert, Viridiana and Tristana
The third Man
Harakiri
Paths of Glory
La Ribiere du Hibou
Bergman's Marriage Story
Les enfants du paradise
The rules of the game
Los Santos inocentes

>>14656095
I love the link, and think his newer films are even better: before midnight, boyhood, and everybody wants some were great. Didn’t see Bernadette and last flag flying was horrible, so he may be on the downside though. Slacker was my fourth favorite of his btw. Never seen kiewdlowski for some reason. I own Dekalog and three colors red though.

>>14656354
Love bresson, but would imagine most people find him boring. His Joan of arc was incredibly dull. Everything else I’ve seen has been great. No idea how you think Godard is boring though. Pretentious, maybe.

>>14655412
This was unbelievable.

>>14654644
>>14654682
Don’t listen to this anon, phantom thread is his only honest work. He usually seems to be talking out of his ass.

>>14657061
Based umberto d

The Grifter

Possum

>>14653392
Why are you guys analyzing the relationship at the end of the movie
They were literally drugged 24/7 and Christian was already paralyzed and mute

>>14650490
Its indescribable, AHHH the horror is too much you would go insane if I told you.

>>14653261
Don't listen to the other anon, it's shit

>>14641287
Where can I view this film? Where can I buy the highest quality version of this movie? It's one of my most anticipated films.

“No Country for Old Men” and “The Road”
Both books by Cormac McCarthy that were turned into movies, and both movies did justice to the book and was very well done. Awesome films that did justice to awesome books.

>>14657685
Come and see? Torrent it, I don’t know where you can buy it.

>>14657721
Too bad there isn't a Criterion version of Come and See, I'd love to own it.

>>14657853
https://www.criterionchannel.com/come-and-see

>>14657685
watch ivan's childhood instead

>>14641287
What the fuck is wrong with that guys' face? Is he 12 or 45?

>>14657917
It's war what done it.

>>14657274
No. That film is too fucked up anon. Nobody should watch that shit ever

>>14657897
I didn't know about this, thanks.
>>14657903
I've already seen it, along with several other Tarkovsky films, great movie.

Salo, the 120 Days of Sodom
&
Cannibal Holocaust

Doesn't get more /lit/ than this...at least for nip films

Any books on why South Koreans make such soulless films?

>>14658046
Pasolini is SHIT.

>>14658100
They're not soulless. If anything, their movies are sentimental sopfests made to compensate for how soulless they are IRL.

>>14658107
He is good if you are into scat.

Art film showing scat is a win.

>>14657103
Phantom Thread was definitely the most simple movie plot and theme wise of the three PTA films I've seen. However I wouldn't say he was talking out of his ass for twbb and the master.
TWBB was about a man who couldn't relate to anyone so he invested all of his time and energy into playing the game of capitalism only to get nowhere.
The Master was about a man who had no direction in life pledging himself to serve a cult leader.
Both were more complex than Phantom Thread which was a twisted love story however I did prefer Phantom Thread due to it's superior presentation.

>>14658325
>TWBB was about a man who couldn't relate to anyone so he invested all of his time and energy into playing the game of capitalism only to get nowhere.
I know what it's about, but it is fundamentally naive to blame all your problems on capitalism when human life is inherently unfulfilling to some extent. I'm anti-capitalist as much as the next person, but the movie came across as an ideologue as opposed to a genuine story. Radcliffe (DDL's character) also did accomplish a lot, he built the entire town and industrialized the country. The ending was the metaphor that consumerism/capitalism is the new religion which is hardly relevant or new in the 2000s when that film came out. I've noticed that about 2000s films, especially in America, they tend to have nothing to do with the current time period, as if people have no idea what to say anymore and revert to old philosophical statements as themes. I also saw many similarities with TWBB and Andrei Rublev and thought the latter was much more impressive. In essence, it was ultimately soulless and precludes human emotion, but in terms of what it said I suppose it was profound.

>The Master was about a man who had no direction in life pledging himself to serve a cult leader.
I know, it was also about sex and masculinity and meaning. It failed at all of them, because PTA tried to be obscure and reduced the film to a puzzle as opposed to Bunuel or Lynch or directly address the absurdity of life and don't make puzzles that could be solved an hour after viewing the film.
>Both were more complex than Phantom Thread which was a twisted love story however I did prefer Phantom Thread due to it's superior presentation.
I agree, but don't view complexity as the aim of cinema. I am certainly not in the majority here, but I prefer honesty and a film that shows how the filmmaker understands the human condition. Of course, if it's shallow or boils down to muh racism etc., I'd say the person doesn't understand the human condition. PT was by no means perfect though, it was heavy-handed and forced a lot. Reynolds was also not that interesting of a character and there were way too many scenes showing off his eccentricity.

>>14658654
>or directly address the absurdity of life and don't make puzzles that could be solved an hour after viewing the film.
who directly**

>>14658046
we live in a society

>>14658689
I want what’s done in those movies done to Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramilla!

"300" by Zack Snyder.

Is this the thread where illiterate crossboarders post what they think intelligent people (such as myself) like?

>>14658654
>it is fundamentally naive to blame all your problems on capitalism when human life is inherently unfulfilling to some extent.
I don't think TWBB was guilty of that. Many of Daniel's misfortunes were not due to capitalism (his son becoming deaf/ his supposed brother being an impostor). Capitalism or rather competition was simply an outlet for him that yielded great wealth but nothing more for Daniel beyond that.
>The ending was the metaphor that consumerism/capitalism is the new religion which is hardly relevant or new in the 2000s when that film came out.
It may not necessarily be the first time that theme was presented in a work of art however the way it was done is particularly noteworthy due to its near flawless (in my opinion) execution. I still enjoy movies and books where the hero's journey is executed well. In addition the film is a period piece from a time where capitalism was beginning to usurp religion as America began to industrialize. So given the setting of the movie the themes were relevant.

>It failed at all of them, because PTA tried to be obscure and reduced the film to a puzzle
I personally didn't find much puzzling about The Master. The themes seemed pretty apparent to me. In my opinion the movie's themes about how humans desire a master figure was well said.

>I agree, but don't view complexity as the aim of cinema. I am certainly not in the majority here, but I prefer honesty and a film that shows how the filmmaker understands the human condition.
I completely agree hence why despite being the most straightforward of the three movies, I liked Phantom Thread the most. The visual presentation was also a major factor as to why I enjoyed it more though

I probably have not seen as many movies as you have hence why your standards are probably higher than mine. Despite this I wouldn't consider TWBB or The Master to simply be "PTA talking out of his ass." Sure some of the themes may have been covered in other art forms however I would be hard pressed to find a movie or book where you cannot say that.

>>14660434
>I probably have not seen as many movies as you have hence why your standards are probably higher than mine
Eh I've seen a lot of films because I have no friends and no real hobbies lol (aside from watching films, reading, and now writing. DESU I have no idea how to have a conversation anymore and I just got a girlfriend, but it'll only be soon enough once she founds out how much of a fraud I am, so I'll probably break up with her soon to spare myself future rejection. I do love her though ), but my standards vary depending on the movie. I view TWBB and The Master differently than PT because I felt they were more ambitious, but didn't live up to that ambition, which honestly very few films do especially after reading Moby Dick and Ulysses. I can think of a handful of political/social/economic etc. that were ambitious as TWBB that succeeded in painting this grandiose picture of humanity. The most recent IMO would be Hard to be a God, and Leviathan. I'm also incredibly biased because I really dislike PTA and contemporary American artists in general, and from his interviews and the public persona he created I really despise PTA, so I'm a bit harsher on him than most, but unfortunately that will always be the case lol. That being said most of my favorite movies were just sentimental moment films that felt genuine to me like Toy Story 2 or Babe etc. Here's my letterboxd if you have one: https://letterboxd.com/Greatstar45556/

>>14660491
I'd say of all the modern contemporary American directors PTA is one of the better ones. Nolan and Tarantino fall into what you described much more accurately. Especially since they are far more popular.
I recently started to get into reading literature beyond just schoolwork so I still probably don't have as high of a standard for storytelling as you do. But I will get there eventually.
Also don't give up on your gf anaon. Women love guys with confidence above all else. Just keep your head high and relax. There are plenty of positive things a gf can bring to your life especially if you love her.
I don't have a letterboxd but I'll check your out for film recommendations. It was nice talking to you and godspeed anon.

>>14650490
A graph of all the hours he spent shitposting on /lit/

>>14660491
Just tell your gf that you're not a real person, you can make a joke out of it and it's better to be honest than a fraud anyways.

>>14653397
Tы pyccкий чтo ли?
>Anons
Здecь никтo тaк нe гoвopит.

>>14643823
Then i suggest eternity and a day, the beekeeper and generally theo angelopoulos.

>>14657685
https://www.. youtube. com/ watch?v=TGRDYpCmMcM

I cannot stress this enough: for anybody who loves Tarkovksy and/or Bergman, please check Vlacil's medieval trilogy:
- Devils' Trap
- Marketa Lazarovka
- Valley of the Bees

also Carl Theodor Dreyer

Diary of a Country Priest is my favorite film.
Bresson is excellent.

Donnie Darko

>>14660669
Unfortunately I went on several long rants last night and she thinks I’m insane, so she is not responding to me today.

>>14660650
You too Anon

>>14662645
Best Bresson. Have you seen Lancelot of the Lake or A Gentle Woman? Both fantastic.

>>14646922
Absolutely based.

>>14643957
>I'm a huge pussy and it's keeping me from watching so many films
I can relate

kino

>>14664512
fun af desu

>>14652793
salo is prob the most /lit/ film on there

much love to the anons shilling phantom thread in this thread

>>14641287
ZIFT
Channel Zero
Through the Olive Trees

Master & Commander
In the Heart of the Sea

Blade Runner
Dune

Dr. Mabuse
Metropolis

Young Torless
The Day of the Jackal

Wizard of Oz
Breakfast at Tiffany's

2001
Clockwork Orange
Eyes Wide Shut

Total Recall
In the Mouth of Madness

AntiChrist
50 Shades of Gray

>>14645504
Based

>>14645564
>What did /lit/ think of this
Clunky occult hodgepodge whose primary value lies in an anti-Wes Anderson aesthetic inversion -- one Yorgoth Lathimos elevates to actual cinema, whereas Midsommer remains high concept schlock of a neurotic NYC petite juif, after Aronofski's likes. Woody Allen-as-Christopher Nolan forcibly breeds Carrie with The Wicker Man (Nick Cage's Wicker Man).

>>14645770
>unlike a certain Austrian whom I have a strong urge to savagely beat.
He does aseptic luridness perfectly, but makes you complicit in it.

>>14647444
>>14647461
>>14647567
Execution failed in the last gasp (Really, David Blaine twerkfest?) Black Phillip needed to be the Governor/present at the town trial ostracizing them in the outset; the trapper sold the silver cup a missed threat/mechanic; Eldritch presence of the woods/Satan could have made reference to the natives seen as they left town (desolated village and/or town in a raid/xyz supernatural); needed to be an attempt to reach the town at least if only for more time in enveloped in the woods/witch[e]s' presence. Loved the atmosphere and immersion of the performances -- a silent God with the highest puritanical expectations as you're being fucked with by a very present and worldly Satan was a uniquely tense viewing experience with those performances.

>>14653446
>she was the only character really, everyone else was a plot contrivance
There was enough there to suggest she was herself the crazy sister, with everything from the bathroom in the friends' apartment time-loss jumping straight to the flight en route initiating her backwards [East] journey into the afterlife [hyperborean shiksa's Hell] -- just not enough to be all in on it. ~ Artfig Christopher Nolan opportunity probably squandered in editing, if the original run time claim is accurate. Aronofsky-as-Wes Anderosn issues.

>>14641287
Last Year at Marienbad

>>14665142
>He does aseptic luridness perfectly, but makes you complicit in it.
That would only be true if I were fixated on the content of his films while viewing them, and not the smug, condescending turd behind the curtain.

Really, not a single mention of Japanese new wave. At best you have some Japanese Golden Age films in this thread. Goodness. the answer is "Throw away your books, rally in the streets", "The man who left his will on film", "Pastoral" & "Go, Go second time virgin"
It's mainly Japanese movies that are kino. French new wave is alright and fellini is based also.

>>14665588
That seems like your own problem then.

>>14665142
>There was enough there to suggest she was herself the crazy sister
can you expand on this I didn't pick that up at all

>>14665142
>Execution failed in the last gasp (Really, David Blaine twerkfest?) Black Phillip needed to be the Governor/present at the town trial ostracizing them in the outset; the trapper sold the silver cup a missed threat/mechanic; Eldritch presence of the woods/Satan could have made reference to the natives seen as they left town (desolated village and/or town in a raid/xyz supernatural); needed to be an attempt to reach the town at least if only for more time in enveloped in the woods/witch[e]s' presence. Loved the atmosphere and immersion of the performances -- a silent God with the highest puritanical expectations as you're being fucked with by a very present and worldly Satan was a uniquely tense viewing experience with those performances.
And I thought I was verbose. It's a shallow film not a Hegelian system, retard. How about you make something worthwhile instead of overarticulating your opinion on something mediocre and in doing so making it something that it is not?

>>14665798
were not on /tv/ anon, step up your vocab

>>14665812
The vocabulary wasn't the problem, it was just bizarre syntax. I hated reading those papers for philosophy classes, and the critics that talk like that sound so stupid, soulles, and Earthly putting something so shallow and vain on a pedestal like that.

>>14642795
>It's such a beautiful day
Pure shit. The most dishonest film I have ever seen. Says nothing and does nothing and is only worthwhile because it's a one man project.

>>14665885
Really? I loved it and thought it was genuine. Im sorry to hear you felt that way though, especially about a film I cared for.

>>14641287
Can You Ever Forgive Me?

Anyone else seen it? I thought it was good. Very /lit/ core

>>14655402
Letterboxd
So far the best film site I've used

Every /lit/ poster should watch Naked at least once

>>14666027
http://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fletterboxd.com%2FGreatstar45556%2F

>>14665924
Yes, but ultimately forgettable. I did like it though

>>14665913
Anon, I feel bad for what I said. I just don't like it because it was presented to me under bad circumstances (the guy who made me watch it said "it'll change my views on life"; it did not). Sorry that you enjoyed it, Anon. I just refuse to admit it into my self-perception, since it is not like me. I am my own; my mind is my own.

>>14652793
Eyes Wide Shut is his best film

also Apocalypse Now is /lit/

>>14666139
Don’t feel bad. I’m just surprised that’s all, but I’ve seen reddit be obnoxious about that film which would deter anyone So I guess I’m not too surprised. However, You’re right in that It’s hardly a film to change ones life and I could imagine the type of person your friend is from what you said lol. I liked it though because I randomly saw it one day during finals and the weather got nice and I thought it was beautiful and made me appreciate my life and the nice weather. It also reminded me of when I was a kid for some reason and the fact that I was getting older.

>>14666156
Apocalypse Now is the definitive /k/lit/

>>14658070
>Sono
Cringe

>>14666202
It’s really overrated desu, especially when compared with Aguirre:wrath of god

>>14665774
i believe the other anon meant that she's an unreliable narrator because she is already clinically insane from the get-go. so she's actually the one who murdered her whole family at the beginning, probably to keep the guy from leaving. many of her choices led her to a cult that was tailored for the kind of psychos just like her.

>>14666156
>>14666202
apocalypse now is only 'iconic' because of the histrionics that FFC orchestrated in its making.
>highly expensive
>highly "ambitious"
>vietnam
>drugged up actors
>a fat brando
>filming in a country under martial law
>literally nuking acres of natural forests and jungles
it's hollywood high brow at best

>>14657685
most of tarkovsys films are uploaded in full quality to youtube

>>14655815
the characters don't explicitly talk about mythology- it's poorly referenced through certain scenarios and visual imagery in the film

>>14645564
very not good

>>14666206
>>14667138
t. pleb filtered by the last 40 minutes

>>14666206
Coppola is a much better director than Herzog and Apocalypse Now is a much better film than Aguirre

>>14665924
Yeah I loved the part where she shat on tom Clancy for being a straight white male. And how both of the main characters were literally old faggots

>>14665652
Adding this to your reccs

>>14667493
Agree with the first, but not the second.

>>14665679
No, it's a problem with his competency as a writer and director. I don't hold him to a different standard.