/lit/ - Literature

Latino lit is god-tier by common concensus.
You’re absolutely right that you need a zeal for the language in order to successfully learn it. Try visiting Spain; it’s the best country in europe by any standard (t. visited nearly all of them). I ditched French when I realized I hated the literature as much as I hate the people, and began learning Spanish. Iberophones have half the world open to them. If you want to see the colors of the language, engage with native speakers, not teachers or Duolingo. I’ve listened to fireside yarns from Catalan hunters in a snowbound Pyrenean refugio, had drunken arguments with Moroccan soldiers in a cantina in Ceuta, sweet-talked hippie chicks on a beach in La Gomera. I can even read fancy wine labels.

I am in an advanced spanish class and I have to say, I get absolutely no use out of the language. There are some solid novelists and poets (Borges, Marquez, Cervantes etc.) but I like to read philosophy/social theory/religion much more and there is extremely little of note in that regard. Juan Donoso Cortes is the only major Spanish speaking thinker I can think of off the top of my head. St. John of the Cross and St. Theresa of Avila are cool to read in Spanish, but they aren't really a reason to learn the language or anything.

>>14613643
You can read French philosophy in Spanish and it's the same shit.

>>14613603
Sounds really fullfilling. Hope I canswashbuckle across a country sometime.

>>14613652
I don't really get what you are implying here. My point still stands. I can't think of any important thinkers native to the Spanish language.

>>14613603
What's wrong with the French? They gave us some of the worst philosophy

>>14613603
Spanish women top tier?

>>14613680
I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, you defensive devil. I'm just saying that, if you wanted to, you could read French phil in Spanish with little-to-no loss. Translating from French to Spanish is fairly simple.

>>14613753
I feel as if I would have to get extremely good in Spanish to read someone like Deleuze in it rather than just staying in my native English and reading a translation to that. Other thinkers like Foucalt seem like specific language choice isn't as important in their writing.

>>14613680
>who is Ortega
>who is Unamuno
>who is Borges
>who is Paz

>>14613603
>>14613736
no habléis de nuestras mujeres con vulgaridad tíos por favor, tened respeto

>>14613778
quedate con tus mujeres sarnosas pinche culebra salida de españa las mejores mujeres son de latino america

Spanish is for people too retarded to learn English.

>>14613778
quedate con tus mujeres sarnosas pinche culebra salida de españa, todo el mundo sabe que las mejores mujeres vienen de latinoamerica

>>14613804
Other way around actually. And why would he learn English if he's a native speaker?

>>14613813
>Other way around actually.

Retard cope. English is superior not only to the eyes but to the ears.

Spanish is mouthfarting by simpletons.

>>14613801
>>14613805
cringe

>>14613822
Spanish is more complex than English as a language. Literally everyone and their dogs know English these days.

>>14613801
We created your few pretty women Jorge be lucky

Bebesitaaaaaaaaaa

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>>14613847
You are also Jorges, lads ;)

I expected someone to reply to my provocation here >>14613643 that "there is nothing of value philosophically in the Spanish language." But, considering no one has, it seems like it is unironically true.

>>14613868
nigga
just look at >>14613765

>>14613868
Philosophy is for incels, nerds, and perverts. Hispanic culture is all about being a CHAD and living LIFE. Poetry, fiction and nice essays is all we need.

>>14613540
>Who/what would change my view? Authors, figures, philosophers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Ortega_y_Gasset
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federico_Garc%C3%ADa_Lorca
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Neruda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_de_G%C3%B3ngora
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_the_Cross
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltasar_Graci%C3%A1n
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lope_de_Vega
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Juan_Manuel


To get you started.

>>14613540
Read Enrique Medina, you will end up learning a lot of slang.

>>14613643
You didnt look hard enough, the spanish golden age is one of the richest periods of catholic literature, youre naming the most common writers
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escuela_ascética_española
Start there

>>14613643
>>14613680
>I can't think of any important thinkers native to the Spanish language
Have you ever wondered that maybe you simply don't know them because you're an arrogant anglo who assumes that everything in the universe is already stated on his bumb textbooks, ready-to-use like a can of Coke?

>>14613778
basado y pastilla colorado'd

>>14613540
yes it's hype. start by converting to Catholicism.if you dont do this first, you'll be seen as an anglo dog or miseducated heathen everywhere you go.

Spanish is a lot of talking without content so you have to speak more to say less. A very poor language for conveying the world because or this technical linguistic detail. Spanish speakers then tend to be lazy ambiguous and annoying.

I'm shocked how much stupidity is in this thread. Spain pre-1900 had absolutely amazing literature and Latin America post-1900 had amazing literature. Just look and you will find hundreds of names. If you need to be spoonfed you are likely an idiot and should give up without starting.