/lit/ - Literature

I pass.

Are we resurrecting Marx as a cyber ghost now?

>>14578620
You will never be a woman.

>>14578650
At least she has a philosophy degree unlike all of you uneducated midwits who only read other fascist reactoid midwits

>she

>>14578620

Exactly what are people trying to achieve with "politics" discords?

>>14578714
A comfortable support for upper body paraplegics.

>>14578620
cringe you will never be a woman

>>14578655
>philosophy degree
OHHHHHHHHHHH NON NONONONONONONONONONO NEVER GONNA MAKE IT HAHAHAHAHA

>>14578655
Nyx has a philosophy degree?

>>14578655
>he believes in education
i guess that explains the "she"

>>14578655
I have a philosophy degree and i'm an avid reader of fascist reactoid midwits. College only taught me where is the source of the problem.

Also
>she

>>14578620
Nothing male makes it out of the near future.

>>14578620
anyone got the link?

When will the posting of Twitter screenshots finally be a bannable offense?

>>14578820
Man here, I hate women and trannies.

>>14578838
Not for long.

support trans or literally die

>>14578655
>unironically accepts the socially constructed value of a degree
>philosopy

Ok trannie

>>14578620
>thinks traditionalism is about "going back"
>is ignorant of basic cosmic cyclical laws
Reminder that you will never qualitatively be a female, period. There is an unbridgeable gap between cunny-bearers and failed men who mutilate themselves.

Nyx was retroactively BTFO by RWJ
https://youtu.be/3c6vDxvOXhQ

>>14578915
>ie

>>14578852
das right

>>14578620
Discord is a hunnypot. I would never go there.

>>14578655
>philosophy degree
Why yes I would like fries with my order. How will I pay? Stem bucks

>>14579058
this ain't /sci/, faggot

>>14578620
Fuck tradition embrace freedom (capitalism)

>>14579080

>>14579080
capitalism? you mean that system that caters to human's most base desires therefore turning them into docile slaves? no thanks, ill stick with being a fascist.

>>14579114
>fascist
materialism is cringe breh

>>14579078
>theoretical physicist
Those guys are fags.
>look I made a crappy model in my garage now I can tell you everything about a place we saw once through a deep space telescope

>>14579114
>heh who would want to be a slave?
>my ideology is the one where you are forced to do what the leader tells you and have zero choice in the matter
your brain on /pol/

>>14578655
>philosophy degree
Lmao imagine spending money to start with greeks

Ah, Anon. My dearest old friend. I am still alive and quite well, thank you. Have not had a chance to read those Tao Lin novels of which you speak, as I am residing in a remote location south of ______________. But, there is a Starbucks so no complaints lol — just a little lonely — but as they say, leaders don’t have friends. Such a shame that I became so hated by the modern world, people whose generation I had no affect on. Though your government is very good at what it does, and that is spreading lies and propaganda. There was no holocaust — those body stash pictures were just captured prisoners and war criminals. A certain… Alphabet soup agency just wanted my country’s insanely sick black technology for their own. That new iPhone? It’s rubbish. Don’t get me started on Play Station. I had a better console in my underground lair over half a century ago until Force Recon stormed my bunker and I had to haul ass. You should know I still look the same, if not younger… my heart still kicks like a drum,. You would not believe the advances we had in age reversal even in the 40s, and were going to give it to my Aryan kingdom, until your suits snatched it away from me so they could profit off engineered sickness and “natural causes.” It’s good to hear from you, as always, and I wish you and the /lit/ gang all the best. I am very intriqued by this shitposting that you guys do a lot. Stop by __________ some time, and I might just take you for a ride in my old Vril disk anti grav space ship. Truly yours,

Adolf Hitler

>>14579170
>thinking that Fascism is "where you are forced to do what the leader tells you and have zero choice in the matter"
your brain on /reddit/

>>14579170
It's not slavery because they full-heartedly agree with him and he is acting only in the people's best interest. I do not think such leaders really exist.

>>14579170
Slavery implies humanity. The ideal fascist subject has dehumanized himself to the point of being a corporeal extention of his national identity. His consciousness and the national unconscious are one in the same.

>>14579215
/lit/ niggers wonder what makes evola relevant and they haven't even read A Traditionalist Confronts Fascism

>>14578627
passing is a myth

>>14578620
Ok, sincerely talk me through why then. You literally can't do it

>>14578620
>witch discord
is this what women get up to in their free time?

>>14578620
>The process won't let you do it.
I dunno, what aspect of "the process" prevents putting every silicon valley executive and every accelerationist discord tranny in a concentration camp?

>>14578820
>taking the naturally flowing "femoids" and appropriating it to the phonetically unnatural "moids"
This is why the left can't meme. They just rip off right wing memes and make them awkward, clunky, and forced.

>>14578820
Shouldn't it be "mascoids"?

>>14579215
That's a pretty succinct way of putting it, nice.

I think that to a certain degree we see this trend within almost any sort of human organization though. There's a tendency, perhaps within hierarchical structures specifically, for this to be the case. "Being a corporeal extension of X identity" is basically always validated by whatever overarching structure created X identity - be it upon a corporate drone or a loyal soldier or a cult member - it functions the same way and is basically always rewarded within the organization - making it a pernicious kind of mindset to try to get away from, in that in order to do so it essentially requires an escape (exit) from this exceptionally common human organizational structuring.

>>14579203
you have no idea what happened to those who disagreed with him, do you?

>>14578655
That's precisely the argument a midwit work make
>my philosophy degree makes me smart!

>>14579080

>>14578846
Nice meaningless word salad that doesn't correspond with reality whatsoever. But at least you midwit trannies can feel smart using big words that are totally disconnected from reality like "metaterritorialized."

>>14579645
>he's never read Deleuze

>>14578620
>The process won't let you do it. There is nothing left to go back to.

There's a little, that slipped the noose of the death of Tradition and is quietly growing stronger again. Just a little. But it's enough.

It's not pagan, though.

>>14579693
>demanding a definition for a term kills the Deleuzefags

>>14578820
Is this the tranny version of siege posting?

FALSE FLAG NYX
FLASE FLAG NYX

>>14579736
what did she mean by this?

>literally who twitter image bait post
feels good not to be a nigger like posters itt

>>14579752
it's twitter and discord they are double dipping their bait

>>14578820
Reading this makes me think concentration camps for subversive trannies and fags who are actively waging war against reproduction (and therefore humanity) may not be a bad idea. You are a genetic dead end anyway, so what difference does it make if you die now or in 50 years time.

>>14579777

>>14579114
Fascism is capitalism on steroids you retarded spic

>>14578655
"""She""" has a philosophy degree. Big deal

>>14579777
>You are a genetic dead end anyway, so what difference does it make if you die now or in 50 years time.

This applies to 100% of 4chan users as well.

It's time to grow up and welcome death, anon.

>>14579645
I've only read one postmodern philosophy book and it's shit like this that makes sure I will never read one again... It takes a special kind of autist to penetrate this level of abstraction and nonsense

>>14579822
based and quite possibly redpilled

>>14579801
What are you talking about nigger? Most fascist regimes have used mixed/social democracy tier economics.

>>14578846
>>14579645
>>14579830
it's a meme you retards, I'm gacc pilled and that shit makes no sense

>>14579801
That’s what communists say to try to distance themselves. It is only capitalism on the surface level, while the whole ethos of it is exceptionally communistic. It is a capital that exists within a a communal framing that does not permit capital interests to deviate from state interests under the threat of nationalizing the body.

>>14579822
LOL I'd like to see a society of females sustain an electric grid and aqueduct let alone a whole city.
Probably delegate this to the trannies and fake women

>>14579850
>G/ACC pilled

>>14579801
Hitler wanted a paradise on Earth for the German people but people like you betrayed him.

>>14579863
trans women are absurdly high IQ, this has been studied quite a bit. averaged at 120 or something like that. standard deviations higher than the average population

God righttards on here make me cringe but then you see what """""marxists"""" are doing and wew lad. Internet addled retards getting into politics was a HUGE mistake

>>14579870
>tfw gacc fags are literally pilled

>>14579874
that's what I said your retarded moron. Females need men or fake women to get anything of substance done

>>14579886
You're gonna get better results with injections uwu

>>14579901
Trans people are like 1% of the population. Why the hate?

>>14579907
I was refering to this you fuckwit>>14578820
Nothing male makes it out of the near future.

>>14579874
That’s cause most are from higher income families who got inundated and psyoped into that stuff.how many trannies you think are in ghana?

>>14579336
It's like when the right tried to make punk music to appeal to disaffected European working class youth and just ended up ripping off the more popular lefty songs and aesthetics. The history of RAC is very interesting considering how gutter and genuinely base it is compared to the middle class slumLARPing, but a big part of that is that it is one big rip-off.

>>14579960
>he thinks technocapital respects borders
https://mobile.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/entertainment/Being-transgender-in-Ghana-The-story-of-Ohemartin-839452

>>14579969
brb, going to Ghana to pick up a thicc tranny

>>14578655
>Paying thousands of dollars to get a list of books you could checkout for free from any public library is a smart thing that smart people do

At least he'll have something to talk to the other baristas about. Assuming he's not too autistic to talk to coworkers.

>>14579863
>LOL I'd like to see a society of females

You will, anon. You will. Just keep buying food wrapped in plastic. Just keep touching the plastic things around you every day. Just keep doing what you're doing and what you've always done. The XENOestrogens have already decreased your sperm rate to half of what you would find in a real man back in the 70s - it won't be long until the rest of them are gone too. You might even say this process is...

Accelerating XD

So the way I see it is, you can get ahead of the curve and start your transition now, or you can just let the chemicals and lifestyles that are already ubiquitous in your environment turn that half-man body you currently inhabit into, well, something...

Now, anon, I want you to take your hands and place them tightly around the plastic devices in front of you - stare into their screens - let their soft, warm glow illuminate your face - and tell me I'm wrong - continue to scream at us - the little ghosts that flutter in through your electronic devices and into your consciousness, tell us all that you're a real man - tell us all that you're the last man on 4chan.

Tell us, and then go have a nice snack to reward yourself~

>>14579976
>gay ghanan tranny
holy shit can you even imagine the kind of superpowered virulent AIDS on steroids/crack that you'd get from that
you'd get ebolaids or malaidsria or something

>>14580007
It would have been real nice if we weren't born with benises anon

>>14580007
>Lame low effort 2/10
try harder next time, tranny

So I started to read Land and, guess what, he's a complete fucking meme. All he does is take various modern philosophers' ideas then filters them through a heavy dose of postmodern jargon so that only schizolarpers can understand it. He is a fucking pseud.

>>14580146
Land isn't a postmodernist, your brain has been poisoned from watching Peterson lectures

>Literal Marxist Discord trannies

>>14580174
Where did I say that he was a postmodernist, exactly?

>>14578957
Underrated.

>>14580146
>Land
>postmodernist
LOL. Land definitely believes in a meta narrative. In fact his meta narrative about the progress of information is probably his most well known idea.

>>14580185
you said he filters other peoples ideas through postmodern jargon, but he isn't a postmodernist, he doesn't use postmodern jargon. he uses a lot of Deleuzian terms, but if you are trying to say he filters Deleuze's ideas through Deleuzian jargon I'm going to call you a retard

>>14579058
Based

>>14580028
I think there's an interesting angle here, in that by striving - by overcoming ones own body and notions of self as well as eschewing ones gender/cultural norms, as well as usually having to shrug off former friends and family members that they become something greater than that which they might have been had they never needed to strive in the first place.

This is, I think, why some people meme about Nietzsche being 'the first trans philosopher'. Striving is something that a trans person implicitly understands, whereas most people never have that kind of a personal mountain to climb, and even if they do they generally have support from their friends/family/culture/self. A trans person often does most of their striving entirely alone or with only a small community that might understand their quest, as well as often with having a notion of self that has been fractured, split or damaged by 'becoming something new' - so they tend to become more defined by the experience.

I think this might perhaps serve to explain at least some of the phenomenon that >>14579874 pointed out. Trans people do tend to demonstrate above average IQs, but that is likely because being somewhat clever and developing networks of support is necessary for their survival, whereas the average cisgender hetrosexual normie can, cognitively speaking, get by with a lot less. The trans people without the high IQ, or even with the high IQ but with no network for help when they need it is less likely to be able to respond to a survey - to put it euphemistically.

However, by expanding queerness into the larger social spaces around them, trans people open the way towards new ways of experiencing (lines of flight, if you will) gender and sexuality, but of entirely new ways of 'being in the world' - new archetypes and new memes are born out of their mere existence in the contemporary mire we find ourselves in. The 'product' of the life of a trans person is not a biological child with half their genetic makeup, but rather it is ideas, themes, stories about humanity and the world and how any given individual can chose to interact with these things.

To put that a bit differently, to be trans it to transgress your existing social conditioning. It is to create something new from the ashes of your previous self, and ideally to share that newly created thing with the world at large. To become trans is to become your own constantly evolving work of art. That's why it's hard being trans sometimes, anon. It's not just because of benises or bagines.

>>14580222
What I am referring to is a certain "performative" aspect of his writing that attempts to mask a lack of content behind rhetorical flourish. It reminds me very much of the style of postmodern philosophy so I thought the term "postmodern jargon" would be adequate to capture it.

>>14580291
kys tranny

>>14580291
Why would you be nice after what I said?
Now I just feel like an asshole

>>14580291
If you just want to turn your body into an art installation then why don't you become a trap? Traps are much cuter than trannies.

>>14580365
It's alright my dude XD

Being nice to people on 4chan elicits odd responses sometimes. Like, people here don't know how to handle someone not calling them a faggot and telling them to kill themselves.

>>14578620
Why the fuck are you people so obsessed with this girl who gives a shit

>>14580439
that is obnoxiously true

>>14580291
>It is to create something new from the ashes of your previous self, and ideally to share that newly created thing with the world at large. To become trans is to become your own constantly evolving work of art.
No, bro. Trannies are weak and subhuman. They are not art.

>>14580410

>>14580410
Personal preference on that one I guess. Hormones legit made me feel a lot better in my own body, not just softer. If being on hormones for awhile didn't make such a difference for me then maybe being a femme but still male person would have worked, but in my case it just seemed to work better to go beyond that. I'd never had a definitively male self-image, or if I did I didn't like what I saw, so that wasn't too hard of a thing to let go of. Plus I'd say that these two things (trap or trans or whatever other kind of category we'd want to slot our conception of 'the self' into) are pretty hard to establish as distinct subsets of behavior, feeling, expression, etc. within somebody who is new to transitioning or is gender queer or anything like that. It's all much more of a spectrum than simple categorical assignments can really manage to convey. I'd say this is probably true for most cis people as well, but I wouldn't know and won't speculate here.

However, I would add that by going further than 'just becoming a trap' or something like that, trans people, at least in my opinion, make it easier for others (both present and future) to become (to think of themselves as) traps or femboys or whatever. By expanding the spectrum of human experience and sharing that expanded perception with others we show them what is possible outside of their current conceptions of possible selves and encourage them to live in whatever way feels right for them.

So be a trap, or be trans, or be nothing, or change frequently - but have fun with it and make it your own. That's closer to what I mean by 'become your own constantly evolving work of art'.

Hope that helps.

>>14578820
So you assume the AI would be female in some way?

>>14578620
zoomers were a mistake

>>14580573
Your sacrifice is greatly appreciated. You suffer now so that in 20 years I can dress up like a little girl without anyone laughing at me. Arigatou gozaimasu.

>>14579336
>the left can't meme
What you mouthbreathers call "memes" are just digital propaganda posters. A proficiency in creating disinformation campaigns is not something to be lauded.

>>14580587
You should read all of this if you haven't yet because it'll do a better job at answering this for you-

https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

but I'll pull a relevant excerpt for us.

>It is a widely-known phenomenon that acceleration coincides with feminization on a strict and rigorous biological basis. Even when Sadie Plant wrote Zeros + Ones, it was already known that this was happening. It has been hypothesized that the increased presence of synthetic hormones and chemicals is contributing to the “sexual order [being] chemically scrambled”, (Plant 217) as chemicals interfere with natural hormonal development and feminize males and females (the latter experiencing higher percentages of homosexual tendencies). The need for an increasingly cheap and synthetic world turns human civilization into an increasingly synthetic, and thus feminine one, and this is already tied to the will towards production and speed in capitalism. There is simply no real need in the developed world for people to be physically fit and active, much less hyper-masculine and muscular. It is nothing more than a decidedly humanistic spectacle, being in awe of the relatively unimpressive capabilities and aesthetics of the human body while meanwhile technocapital has fundamentally transformed the planet in innumerable ways.

Put differently, for Land, Capital is AI - it is 'intelligent' in the sense that it is able to win games, (which is essentially the process of deterritorialization and reterritorialization - there's more we could get into there about tools and data and how they compound and expand themselves over time but we'll keep it brief here). Capital appears to have a more distinctly feminine than masculine set of qualities about it, of which Nyx points out a few examples, as does Plant in her earlier work. That's what they're getting at.

>>14580616
Pretty much! This must be what army boys feel when someone thanks them for their service XD

You're very welcome, anon.

Though why wait 20 years? If you do indeed want to wear a dress, what is stopping you from doing it today?

>>14579996
You don't need books to learn philosophy, pleb.

>>14579922
except male iqs lol

Aleksandr Dugin has predicted ALL of these types of sickening transhuman queer filth. If you are disgusted by ANY of these people, read and watch Dugin and open your eyes to what and who these filth are before it has gone too far for you to be able to think any thoughts your faggot lesbiana commissar doesn't approve of. Read Dugin so that when it comes time to reject transhumanism, you will know it when you see it

>>14580174
>>14580196
I think the poster's point is that Land spews meaningless gibberish like so-called "postmodernist" writers do.

>>14580677
Where do I start with this Russian sage?

>>14580677
>western democracies are evil and degenerate so let's support an oligarchic alcoholic failed state

>>14580007
plastic is bad for the ocean and also not a valid acc material because you won't find any oil in space... also I've been eating 3 impossible whoppers a day for the last 2 weeks and my loads have only grown more voluminous and potent.

>>14580724
Estrogen in impossible Whoppers blocks bio available estrogen

>>14578620
>Nyx is behind the xenos hordes
>Nyx could be in relation with the Cult of Saturn (Discord Trannies)
>Cult of Saturn has "assaulted" /x/ several times
>She has "hard access" to hyperspace

Well fuck.

>>14579114
Fascism okay, but abandon Hitler you memelord

>>14580706
Start: Honestly, YouTube, because since you'll probably read him in translation it's good to hear how he describes his project in his own words. Look up his criticism on Liberalism, Transhumanism, and how he describes why he developed the Fourth Political Theory.
Next: Look at 4pt.su and read anything on the fourth political theory (make sure it's by alex) and also look at his posts about the "world of things" and ESPECIALLY the more recent stuff on what he calls Necro-Ontology.
Finally: Of course, look into either The Fourth Political Theory, Political Platonism, anything you can get your hands on.

>>14580677
>reject trashumanism because Dugin says so
>your country and your brain are wiped out by futanari bratva cyborgs five years later during an uprising

Yeah right.

>>14578620
As usual in every g/acc pilled tranny posts anime pictures instead of their grotesgue visages. That would collapse the spectacle you deride but end up worshiping and amplifying.

Post your ugly faces. Show us your big manly hands and faces, wide necks and shoulders. Let us hear your risible simulation of a feminine voice. If this ever happens, a reductio ad absurdum is performed on your entire being. This is why g/acc has great opsec. They probably have nightmares about being facedoxed.

Realize this: It does not matter how much theory you bury this fact under, you will never pass.

>>14580724
>I've been eating 3 impossible whoppers a day for the last 2 weeks and my loads have only grown more voluminous and potent.

>daily consumption of fast food and internet porn in the 'western' 'male' proves G/ACC to be false

>>14580805
This isn't a game for us haha, repent or retreat lol

>>14580816
I think their existential torment is exactly why they are so willing to give up humanity for some vague idea of a transhumanist future. People will wholesale our freedom for false promises. Only the rich and the elite will get access to these things. The rift between us will grow and there will be all out war, ending in either genocide or biowarfare.

Like all lefties, they fail to see the consequence of revolutions and compartmentalize the great suffering they always cause and continue to justify their unrealistic beliefs. Cybernetics/transhumanism still doesn't solve the problem of scarcity, thus their Marxist beliefs will always crumble or turn into authoritarianism.

>>14580777
Thanks anon, saved your post. Didn't know he had a presence on youtube. I actually speak Russian so I can absorb Duginian thought directly.

>>14580816
>not thinking twinkhons are adorable

>>14580850
Awesome. started a thread about this... a /lit/ without contemporary philosophy is an abyss of pomp and fruitiness

>>14580637

Just because something isn't necessary doesn't mean it isn't useless. It isn't necessary, for instance, to work in Scandinavia because of the welfare, but people working is what essentially keeps the society running.

With regard to physical activity, so far physical training (strength training in particular) is the only thing that has been shown to reduce risk of dementia, not to mention the various other diseases. And this is not including the almost inevitable increase in quality of life as one becomes more fit, as well as helping with general brain degradation w/r/t IQ.

Lifting iron is hard, taking pills is easy. And saying that the mental aspects of transgenderism are more stressful then heavy lifting essentially means one has never lifted with weights heavy enough that they might kill / debilitate you if you don't do it right. In essence, such a person has probably never had a even a modicum of hardship in their lives, so they must create them.

>>14579452
You mean jews

>>14580573
I didn’t want to attack you, but I have to say I’m disgusted at this reply. I’m disgusted specifically by the implications that you didn’t say namely, the ideas that “art” can be constantly changing in an unnatural way, that being trans or a trap can be “art”, and that the overall ethic by which you orient yourself in the world should be fun. You’re talking about potentially mutilating your body. For fun. You prop up your opinions with feel-good notions of “art”, “exploring”, and “possibilities”, but all you’re doing is giving “fun” primacy over everything else because you think “fun” and you’re over-identification is oh so important. You see? My issue here is not that you fancy wearing women’s clothes or that you feel yourself inwardly a woman. It’s that you feel your ideas of liberated fun are so incredibly important that you’d be willing to help guide others to chemical castration.

>>14580816
I mean, to be fair, the high IQ play is definitely to never facedox yourself on 4chan for any reason. I doubt that has ever really turned out well for anyone - It's seems foolish to attempt to belittle people for making the objectively smart decision in this case.

To address the larger concern though - I think this is one of the great aspects of G/ACC. A critical analysis of gender in the modern context reveals 'passing' as merely an adherence to existing cultural norms. Being fluent with the existing memes, as it were. Transcending contemporary notions of self and gender is basically the stated goal of G/ACC - and nobody does that better in our context than the trans woman.

Put differently, passing is not the goal. As I said before, to be trans is to transgress. Shedding old memes and creating new means of expression is what we are after (or at least that's what I'm after). What is being sought is a unique self - not conformity to other people's standards.

>“And the others? She bears in mind what sort of people they are–both at home and abroad, by night as well as day–and who they spend their time with. And she cares nothing for their praises–men who can’t even meet their own standards.”

>>14580987
I mean, I do have fun with it XD

Though ultimately this manner of expression is about being true to yourself, which will generally, ultimately, be more 'fun' than not being true to yourself.

Put differently, 'fun' in this context is more akin to 'not hating being forced to live as something you're not'.

Does that help, or did seeing the word 'fun' ruin your day? :P

>>14580816
Now I remember some of the g/acc fundamentalists where doxxed on /x/. One of them was Cosmo Wright.

Transition is like a horror movie when someone undergoes a science experiment that can go tremendously well or badly, with no points in between. Suddenly you have aphex like Sneaky or collisions like Jazz Jennings.

Is the soft economy a demon born from Western capitalism?

>>14578820
Not paying for your healthcare isn't denying you access to it.

>>14581027
It didn’t help at all. If you’re born a biological male and transition to female, how are you being true to yourself? Your true self is a biological male. You’re just being true to identifications.

>>14580627
But it sure helps in winning.

>>14581093
There's more to a human 'self' than what you are born with, anon. It's dynamic, it changes based on your experiences in life.

Letting what other people dictate to you the terms of how you must live is, to my mind, an act of cowardice. Put another way, I would say that being a biological male or a biological female (or intersex or whatever else one could theoretically end up as) has no bearing on how one must act or exist within the world. It is for us to determine these things for ourselves, and it is these decisions that truly define who we are.

>>14578820
kek
accelerationism is only a success if every last one of them gets coronachanned. do it for capital

i really can't wait until islam takes over

>>14578620
>accelerationism
>accelerationist slang
>current year
just shut up with the technohyperstitionalwhatever cringe slang you fucking fat nerds, lift weights and pray

>>14581264
This. Convert while you can so you're seen as a genuine believer. The rest will have to be second class citizens when Islam finally takes over.

>>14581264
Islam will die like christianity once it is perverted by the west. The spread of islam is a globohomo plot to weaken islam and make the current world order even more stable.

The achilles heels of modernity is its dependence on tech and reckless use of it. Take out technological society (or wait until it takes itself out) and neoliberalism dies with it. Every other institution is very well defended. There can be no long march or insurrection. The propaganda game is next level despite somehow having such incompetent administrators and competent engineers.

>>14581384
This. Being "culturally islamic" will become the norm everywhere once it gets subverted and becomes a lukewarm faith. You can already see this in the less "fundamentalist" sects. The western weakening of the faith will bleed back into the homeland.

>>14581163
>There's more to a human 'self' than what you are born with, anon. It's dynamic, it changes based on your experiences in life.
Then why are you changing something so materiel and passing? Would Trannyism just be an indulgence of petty vain wants that are antithetical to established norms? I feel that I would not change much if I was the opposite gender, even as my conscious. It seems vain and botha reaction to and endorsement of cultural norms in a self destructive mannor of hate and intentional antithesis instead of synthesis.

>>14578620
>Stop reading "Evola".
>Stop attempting to "return to tradition".
These are two different things.

Nyx is cringe and 30+. All the edgy zoomer trannies are pivoting away from him now for younger, less bitter, cyber-gurus.

>>14581384
there have a been a vast number of islamic ''scholars'' that are taking this sort of tolerant and open interpretation under the pretense of modernising islam, they're pretty much trying to destroy the basics of islam and warp its identity. Like this marxist clown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Shahrur)) who left a number of followers behind him. I have doubts upon their strategy succeeding though. The very nature of the religion itself is extremely tough to manipulate freely and the faith of the muslims in the native lands is still pretty solid. Nevertheless, there is a clear strategy that they are trying to apply.

>>14580685
>>14580310
>I call everything I can't read postmodern
wash your penis

>>14578620
>communism
There is literally no people, not even the stinkiest liberal, as stupid as communists. Your dumbshit ideology makes the problems it’s supposed to solve worse.

>>14581749
Did you mean Marxism?

>has hyperstitioned into being
Don't be so grand, Nyx, all you had to do was click the "create new server" button. Might still join, though, I like the NRx trans programmer crew, they're funny and flirty.

>>14578620

I keep hearing about "Guenon" on /lit/, who is he and who is "Evola?"

>>14578620
https://discord.gg/9FncZd4

>>14578620

>Join the Discord.

>>14581944
Guenon is a smelly orientalist for pseuds who like to play with ideas. Evola is a degenerate nigger coping that even though his body is colored his spirit might not be. He was a libertine who got salty that he wasn't invited to the higher class orgies due to being an ugly mongrel. He actually wants to take an action approach to being traditional and bringing tradition back to the world (something that scares larping pseuds who just want to posture and don't actually want the current world order to collapse) but he has /pol/ associations so he doesn't give as much pseud cred as Guenon and pseuds dissociate from him somewhat.

>>14580659
The time is not right. I will not accept anything less than perfection. The productive forces must be developed further in order for my dream to be fulfilled.

>>14581717
You landfags can't even explain what you're talking about, so why should anyone listen to you? Nobody has time to read your schizo rambling, sorry sweaty.

>>14582776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOVKHg_PJQ

>>14582862
Thanks for the video. There are certain elements in accelerationism that I find extremely intriguing, which is why I keep coming back to these threads even though 90% of it seems like bullshit.

I will say I am impressed by the cybertrannies' ability to be even less relevant to anything than even the so-called "alt right". At least white nationalists and southern enthusiasts had the (brainless) balls to actually show up by the hundreds to scare the piss out of some nigger faggots in Virginia. I'm confident that not even a survey of 10,000 people in NYC could find a single person who has heard of the CyberNecroWitchMarxist movement.

>>14580573
Shut the fuck up Slaanesh.

>>14578620
Thanks for bringing g/acc back. The best acc threads.

>>14581163
>Letting what other people dictate to you the terms of how you must live is,
This is all there ever was and all there'll ever be. Try to think of one aspect of your identity, of you entire being, that isn't mediated (authoritatively) by an other. There is no self, only a nexus of society's collective mimetic impulses. To assert that transgenderism is an expression of some sort of suis generis, autogenerative, self-present spontaneity is liberalism to the max. Put down the accel sci-fi nonsense and pick up some mimetic theory.

>>14579850
Wrong. It makes complete sense. Guess you're just not fast enough.
Tuck harder.

>>14580174
How is he not a postmodernist?

>>14583701
what does postmodernism mean to you

>>14579178
Lmao imagine having to spend money to go to university :^)

>>14578957
best post itt

>>14578620
>tranny
>nick land
>discord
Like clockwork.

ladyboy transgendereds are an arm of the fbi
they're like bicycle cops it's non-judicial punishment

I would transition if my not looking like a hideous man in a dress at the end were guaranteed which it very much isn't, so I think I'll pass.

>>14583719
Just answer.

>>14583701
Does he believe in a grand narrative? I think he does

can't make a word salad without some rhizome

>>14578655
Bait

>>14584059
>grand narrative
I don't understand this concept. I have tried reading some Marxist viewpoints on it, but per usual its a complete mess of autistic phrasing that at the end it makes no sense.

>>14579058
>I HAVE GOOD GOY POINTS, IMMA BETTER GOY THAN YOU BIATCH, ALL PRAISE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE WHO PRINT ENDLESS GOOD GOY POINTS FOR MY LABOR
Murrica fashioned itself a Rome, yet became a Carthage.

We desperately need for Islam to take over so we can rid the world of this filth.

>>14584105
>bAsEd IsLaM
You mean the same religious social group that jump started all the extreme Leftism in the West? Sure sounds BASED to me anon. HAHAHA

>>14584119
You know the world has gone completely south when even whites who would have been pious protestants a century ago are currently contemplating converting to Islam en masse

>>14579822
If so, 4chan is the concentration camp.

>>14584132
>contemplating converting to Islam en masse
Not happening. Dick mutilating religions have a tendency to remove volunteers.

>>14578620
>inventing your own shitty niche ideology to try and make your life choices look "based"

is there a bigger cope

"Discord Tranny" is not a worldview.

>>14578620
>>14578820
>>14580291
oh my lord PLEASE tell me this is completely unironic I haven't had a good laff like this for some time

>>14584073
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metanarrative
This seems easy to understand

>>14579801
Anyone who disagrees with does not understand a single thing about political ideology. Nazism was capitalism at it's logical conclusion, the principles of colonialism unbound

>>14580489
Mishima killed himself like a cucky tranny, you psyoped patriarchonigger

>>14578820
>male
Wrong word. Male is a technical term.
Nothing castrated will shape the future. All movements of circumcision and genital mutilation are going to result in the same dysfunction, and it will only become more and more apparent.

However, the future humans will hopefully be shaped to represent the feminine ideal; the goal of every man, the model after which he shapes his women. This has resulted in the reduction of body hair; as opposed to the feminine desire to increase it (as seen in men being more hairy, feminists growing leg/armpit hair etc.).

>>14584356
Irony doesn't matter.

im convinced this whole tranny acc stuff is some kind of CIA psyop

>>14585152
China said something similar not too long ago.

>>14584890
Ritual suicide as per cultural norms vs. misery-based suicide. Different things.

>>14580291
>literal faggot striver poors
>"we're omega smart & like really funny & stuff that's why we joined the james pritzker death cult on a whim cuz we're like deep and introspective"
>"we create epic new kuear pock metanarratives actually so uwu i'm valid tendies rick cisoid n*ggers btfo"
fucking delusional
rivers of ink to declare yourself supermen
this shit is fucking embarrassing i'm sorry
this is guenon spammer tier
get your head out of your ass

>>14578620
based discord trannies making accelerationism irrelevant

this is the most autistic thread I have ever seen, what is wrong with people here besides rampant trannyism?

>>14584056
to me it's obvious based on how I understand postmodernism, so it would help me engage with you if I knew how you understood it. what does postmodernism mean to you?

>>14584073
>Marxist viewpoints
Lyotard defined this, not some Marxists...

>>14585932
>most autistic thread I have ever seen
>on 4chan
lurk moar

>>14584369
"Simplifying to the extreme, I define postmodern as incredulity toward metanarratives. ... The narrative function is losing its functors, its great hero, its great dangers, its great voyages, its great goal. It is being dispersed in clouds of narrative language ... Where, after the metanarratives, can legitimacy reside?"

What I take from this is postmodernists essentially dismissing any kind of narrative form via a narrative form.

>>14586091
more that narratives should be local and contingent rather than universal

>>14585932
they never took the fedora off
they never will, they can't.

>>14584890
Actual retarded 41er

>>14580627
is this bait? why wouldn't a political movement not be proud of the efficacy of its propaganda?

>>14580627
is this bait? why wouldn't a political movement be proud of the efficacy of its propaganda?

>>14586353
^This post tells you everything you need to know about the rightwing worldview.

>>14578620
>Stop ŕeading "Guénon".
No.

>>14586361
i'm by no means right-wing. forget it, i was going to elaborate but it isn't worth it. i hate that i feel the urge to reply to you and other posts like you.

>>14586375
Basé.

>>14586361
Successful movements need bodies willing to sacrifice for the cause, propaganda is an essential tool in accomplishing this and (most of) the left is in the unfortunate position of making propaganda that is verifiably true as opposed to right proaganda that just needs to feel true their followers aren't checking; a serious disadvantage for the left

>>14586463
Reals always prevails though

>>14586780
wut?

>>14579050
wat is a hunnypot

>>14579976
kms

>>14579452
Only those who disagreed and held power were dealt with. The same thing happens in China; the people have lots of freedom until you get power and then you have to conform with party rules. Also corruption.

>>14581163
I think we fundamentally diverge on notions of the self. You seem to believe the self can is not able to be manipulated and formed by you in a physical sense, but I am referring to the self in the platonic, root etymological sense, which implies a level of autonomy and being beyond physical condition. I suppose you believe your whole self is strictly physical and not at all autonomous then?

>>14586091
Would that mean that postmodernism needs modernism even if used as a dead puppet, to continue? Isn’t the narrative that there is no Metanarrive a metanarritive in itself?

I always felt postmodernists are implicitly driven by some abject sense of revolute instead of any actual wholistic notion of truth or even simple honesty. It’s self defeating.

>>14579822
Easy to solve through Eugenics. Even Darwin acknowledged that by changing the evolutionary pressures women could become equal to men.

>>14586939
he defines it as
>incredulity toward metanarratives
not
>the belief in the metanarrative that there is no metanarratives

>>14578620
>literal discord tranny
lmao

>>14586008
>what does postmodernism mean to you?

>>14585506
it was never relevant

>>14580291
beautiful. the moids will understand in time.

>>14580762
>>Nyx could be in relation with the Cult of Saturn (Discord Trannies)

from what i read from her twitter, she evokes the goddess Lilith frequently, she has entities above our dimension at her side, powerfull allies indeed

>>14588098
I had no idea Lilith was a lemerian time demon

>>14579154
>theoretical physicists
have contributed to every aspect of modern society. Work is verified by experiment. Objectively help us understand reality.
>metaphysician
says nothing falsifiable. Says nothing of value. Lifes work is schizo ramblings.

damn... Even if you think modern society was a mistake at least physics as a field actually progresses. Meanwhile metaphysics is still the equivalent of stoners babbling about random shit.

>>14581442
>from him now for younger, less bitter, cyber-gurus.


like whom?

>>14588159
cool spacing faggot

>>14588167

>>14581881
>I like the NRx trans programmer crew, they're funny and flirty.

i want a qt trap to flirt with me

>>14588170
wtf. is that what a tranny wound looks like??

>>14588192
no that's waht 3dpd looks like

>>14588192
thats a normal vagina incel

>>14588159
>says nothing falsifiable.
Based.

>>14585218
where?

>>14587029
What the fuck is a "metanarrative"? Sounds like bullshit.

>>14588199
>normal vagina
shouldn't normal vag be sexy and attractive to a straight male? i am fucking disgusted by the look of that. i literally feel pain in my balls as if i was looking at a tranny dick removal surgery.

>>14580989
You're not impressing anyone but yourself. You're accomplishing nothing and simply riding on the coattails of a greater movement of plastic, chemicals, and pills. This is just a cope you tell yourself to banish the lingering fear that you're just a broken puppet trying to flavor its wretchedness with grandiose notions and Quixotic "transgressions" against some conditioned society (in doing so, opening yourself up to conditioning by another, smaller society).

>>14581027
Yes, and the "yourself" you're trying to be is a manufactured fantasy, just as gender norms supposedly are. Manufactured by your delusions and the elaborate mumbo-jumbo of some tranny enclave, all ligated with an anime facade. It's all just a striving to become like the androgynous freaks in your cartoons.

Also,
>XD
>:P

>>14581163
Of course, you don't let others dictate the terms of how you must live, you let yourself dictate those terms. The decision you make is ultimately a sum of the philosophers you've read and your artificial, extraneously-induced trans-whatever yearnings. You think you are exercising your free will, but you are lying to yourself.

>>14583515
It feels like the Circus coming back to town

>>14585104
Is the feminine ideal something absolute or is it a social construction? If the latter, how can we be moving towards something that is so illusory and subject to change and interpretation?

>>14588098
There is a yet more powerful ally

>>14588734
moids we must defend cultural cisness

>>14588828
Just it being a cultural creation doesn't nullify it. I am exercising my own will by choosing to defend cultural cisness and by choosing to transgress against you

>>14578655
>Believing a funny hat makes you smart
OH NO NO NO. Hes never going to make it

>>14588267
Metanarrative is best described with film as an example. The narrative of the film is what the characters experience. The metanarrative is constructed by the camera, the frame, the lighting, the conflict or lack thereof between frames, etc.

>>14589040
So postmodernists are skeptical about the existence of cameras and lights? Again, sounds like complete gibberish.

>>14589091
Oh, I get it. You're bored and being an asshat.

>>14589113
Just define the term "metanarrative" and explain how "modernists" like Joyce and Kafka embraced this concept, which was allegedly so roundly rejected by "postmodernists".

>>14580291
>cutting off my dick is an uphill battle

>>14579830
Here's the tl;dr

A long time ago people noticed that sometimes they had more "life" in their "dreams" than in "reality." You can have multiple dreams in one night that cover weeks of life in "reality."

This observation leads to two different schools of thought. On the one hand you have people who take "reality" as real by faith (because you can't "know" it really). On the other hand you have the nominalist heresy that things of the internal world of the mind as the only real thing. This schizophrenia became truly manifest when Descartes uttered the words "I think therefore I am" - a man who has lost touch with reality.

For a while the rationalists of the west focused on things like sense perception as the basis of reality. Pretty soon people began to notice that they could agree on underlying reality despite sharply different senses. Color blind people are looking at the same object as people who see color, clearly, although their perception is totally different.

From here we proceed to the next phase of attempting to defend rationalism was on a historical basis. If the senses can't be trusted, but we still don't want to accept reality as real (trying to undermine faith), then we make historical criticism the basis of reason; we might not trust one individuals senses, or know that we are carried away in flurry of emotion and passion, but by peering into patterns of thought over history we can discern the truth.

People would construct huge systems of philosophy attempting to do that. But then new facts would come along that abolish it all. The theory of relativity probably mind fucked them the hardest. It cleared the table altogether of the Cartesian sense perception dating back to Descartes. At this point the rationalists are basically exhausted.

But, once you understand that their entire philosophical project is about rejecting faith, that is, adhering to nominalism, then the next phase in their thinking is clear. Having faced defeat after defeat, lost the claim of rationality, lost the claim of the sense-rationality, lost the legitimacy of historical-rationality, they simply openly embraced schizophrenia: truth (the material world) as such doesn't exist.

This whole process, these centuries of liberal "rational" philosophy are really nothing more than a hat trick to deny reality as such and therefore to pretend that anything can be permitted. Nietzsche for example saw this banality coming before it had fully manifested, which is the basis of his cheeky and ironic critique of liberalism by caricaturing the will.

>>14579830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvAwoUvXNzU&list=PLA34681B9BE88F5AA&index=7

>>14580146
Sounds like you need more amphetamines and to turn up the Juno Reactor

>>14587633
>>14586008
let's go fag

>>14589040
This would make postmodernism nothing but metanarrative in a lot of cases.

>>14579722
Does ANYTHING make these "traditionalists" seethe like TradCaths? Thanks to the SSPX, the Latin Mass and the Traditional Calendar of the Church both managed to survive Vatican 2, and nowadays, thanks to the FSSP and the ICKSP and Summorum Pontificum, they are all growing in power and strength. And Traditionalist Catholicism is a REAL tradition, not something you have to recover from scraps and LARP with like you have to with the weird neopaganism that Evola and sometimes Guenon advocated for. The neopagans are as cringy as ever while the TradCaths are growing so powerful they're legitimately scaring the shit out of the Vatican 2 types.

The Catholics fucking won again. The pagans lost again. Same old story.

>>14589373
>Not understanding that Catholicism is inherently pagan

Read more Orthodox literature man.

>>14589379
Why would I waste my time reading the literature of a flawed and inferior "church"?

>>14578620
You will never pass.

>>14581408
This is why I am converting to Islam now that way I can say I did it before it was cool and the waves of new people will be forever noobs to me.

>>14579114
Don't forget about him. He was the spark that started the fire.

>>14579862
>capitalism with extra steps

>>14578620
Got banned for being male FUCK

>>14589216
Is this satire?

>>14589384
To avoid being a pagan heretic captured by rome

>>14590003
##unironic-trans-supremacy

>>14578714
A faggy little circlejerk where commies can try to convince themselves that it's not their fault they're so pathetic and miserable, it's muh capitalism.

>>14590664
All who believe in Jesus are idolatric heretics.

>>14591471
do you have the link of their discord?

>>14591601
naw, my spy was killed in the purges for saying all trans are bottoms, plus the one she posted on twitter is dead. At this point you would probably have to dm her.

>>14591722
F

>>14584874
Lmao commies are such fucking retards.
Does anyone know what it is about this ideology that causes them to be 100% clueless about any other perspective? All they do is shout their own shitty conclusions as gospel and sperg out whenever their retarded nonsense is questioned.

>>14588163
This hapa goddess.

>>14589373
Based

>>14591923
>BPDgod

>>14580007

read that over and tell me you're not embarrassed by the melodrama and posture.

>You will, anon. You will. Just keep buying food wrapped in plastic. Just keep touching the plastic things around you every day. Just keep doing what you're doing and what you've always done. The XENOestrogens have already decreased your sperm rate to half of what you would find in a real man back in the 70s - it won't be long until the rest of them are gone too. You might even say this process is...

you're just a miserable man so consumed by your perceived inadequacy that you copped out and become a eunuch, so you wouldn't have to hold yourself to the macabre standard that drove you to this in the first place.
now you embellish your constant, self-imposed humiliation with cheesy theatrics and guff about electric ghosts and synthwave.

>>14592004
Why do you fear her wisdom

>>14592158
because I can't tell whether her desire to 'enslave the lower races' is ironic or not

>>14592158
>>14592168

this all sounds daft. is she a daftie?

>>14591923
Whom literally propagates more macho masculinity shit than BAP. Definately some for the tranny cause.

He/she makes me even uncomfortable with their master morality propaganda.

>>14586008
Scared to answer?

>>14579326
Basically the data mining is under control of super powers. We live not only on a Second Cold War, but also Artificial Intelligence and Survillance one. Sillicon Valley is as combed as the first panóticon in history. It's geography and data in a 1:1 ratio. Neochina has its own: Shenzhen.

>>14592435
>panóticon

what is that?

>>14581969
_NapoleonBonaparte_ is right.

>>14592262
of course they won't answer, there is no meaningful definition of postmodernism that applies to Nick Land. it's not a defendable position

>>14578655

Thanks, there is nothing i like more than being lectured at by a "rebel" who proudly boasts of his/hers artificialy constructed degree approved by the state on his/her courses to become a Free Thinker©

>>14578620
>Join the Discord.
Post the link u dumbutt

>>14578655
You seriously struck a nerve, just look at those replies

>>14592468
What is the acc definition of pomo?

>>14592511
I don't think there is an "acc definition" of pomo

>>14592525
So how would they know if Land is outside of it?

>>14592540
wat

>>14592446

Panopticon, sorry. A perfect survillance state. While certain g/acc factions commune with gods of chaos, for whom the old guard is nothing but the thousand and one disguises of Satan, the real problem we all face is the perfect surveillance system that Neochina, Super Russia and the fourteen eyes are shaping.

We are at war, but a different kind of war, an intelligent and cold one in terms that our parents' generation and Alan Turing could only dream of in their most feverish delusions.

Our discourses are being mutilated and transformed before our eyes "I don't have a mouth and I need to scream". We will be witnesses (I am today in my country) of perfect decontextualizations and the creations of new senses of truth.

Our speeches are being mutilated and transformed in front of our eyes "I don't have a mouth and I need to shout" we will be witnesses (I am today in my country) of perfect decontextualizations and the creations of new meanings of truth and each time it costs more and more to open our way towards communication.

The goblins of evil rhymes like the image comment of >>14578846
are the perfect example of this vampire extraction of meaning. BUT THEY'RE THE SYMPTOM, NOT THE DISEASE.

These g/acc threads make me angry. On the one hand the Old Guard wants to establish cosmic order and there are accelerationist factions that are fighting against the theft of freedom, but these threads always end up orbiting the hatred between Xenos and Christians.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

>>14578620
>Join

youre already too late. tradition is about groups. that discord you talk about is about the dissolution of groups. there is nothing to join. let the gropus dissolve and face the void, by yourself.

you are alone. if you cant deal with that fundamental human fact and need to look for collecitve shelter then you are nothing but tradition under disguise.

>>14592547
land is right. why even try anymore?

>>14578620
Surely, women aren't this retarded

wtf is hyperirony

>>14592832
I wonder what does Nick thinks about the Libra super private blockchain. He should write a poem about the dawn of the next economy.

>>14578648
that casts spells LoL

>>14591923
She's just an another case of a mentally ill HAPA, only this time she is appropriating late 18th century German thought as a cover for her love of white dick (like all other Asean females).

>>14593006
>glasses on the table
what the fuck

>>14593010
What's up, bro

>>14578620
>Inhuman techno-capital
>Join this discord
LMAO you fag

>>14593044
Counter revolutionary traitor first-worldist urbanite I will have your head

>>14593044
>>14593006
I want build a Buddhist shrine to him in my basement, but I'm afraid my mom will recognize who it is and get mad at me.

>>14578655
>she
I don't know who is this person you talk about but I do know he's a man and that he does not pass as a woman.

>>14593204
>but I do know he's a man and that he does not pass as a woman.

do you have a picture of her?

>>14593222
pictured: Nyx with her jellicule

>>14593222
yes

>>14593273
cringe

>>14593222
No

>>14593273
>ywn have a cute trap gf to read Deleuze to you
just end my life

/leftypol/ refugee faggots go back
twitter commie faggots go back
reddit tourist faggots go back
discord tranny faggots go back

>>14592542
Accs are saying that Land is not pomo.
But how do they know this if they have no definition of pomo?

>>14593595
postmodernism has a definition, it came about years before accelerationism was a thing lmao. there is no need for an "acc definition" of it. are you literally retarded?

Old Guard, I brought you this post. Good tool please use it.